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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Whats the best oil to put in?

I'm a new MC owner and I dont want no sleezy jiffy loob oil unless they put in good stuff
so what do you recogmend? plus if u can put in how much it should cost for just the oil
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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here we go

ps. i'm using mobil 1 extended right now and i think it's pretty good.
however, i'm gonna try the german syntec next time.
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Mobil 1 (synthetic)
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by billie_morini
Mobil 1 (synthetic)
well, technically, it isn't true synthetic
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Use what your dealer sells or Castrol 5w30 or German Castrol 0w30.
Mobil 1 may be good too, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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It's no problem getting good oil at Jiffy Lube.........just pray they don't screw up the oil filter.

I use Royal Purple for the, (perceived at least), extra horsepower.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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I just had mine changed and tried something new (for me, anyway): Redline. It seems to make the car run a bit smoother and the slight tap at idle is gone. About $2.50 more than M1 per quart but it seems to be worth it.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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I use Royal Purple because it's purple.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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RLI BioSyn 5w30.... I'm near the leading edge of that wave...

Have done German Castrol, Dealer Castrol and Mobil 1 in the past. Just bought 5gal of BioSyn so I'll be on that for the foreseeable future...
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Oil Preference

I'm using AmsOil; the results have been really good. I will continue to monitor the gas milage a few more months before I make any claims though.

I think that you will find there are a wide variety of oils being used in the MINI. I think most are pretty dang good (AmsOil, Mobile 1, Royal Purple, Castrol Syntec, etc, etc); the MOST important tip I can give is to perform regular maintenance and change your oil, not only based upon miles driven, but also based upon the climate/driving conditions.

I am a 7000 mile oil change kind of guy. I don't think changing your oil (if using a quality synthetic) earlier than that will reap you any benefits. If I drive cross country and go through a dusty, extremely hot area (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico for example), I will usually change the oil sooner; it just depends upon how long I am in those conditions.

Good quality synthetic + good maintenance practices makes for a happy MINI!
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Thanks guys for all the great advice! really appreciate it
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
RLI BioSyn 5w30.... I'm near the leading edge of that wave...

Have done German Castrol, Dealer Castrol and Mobil 1 in the past. Just bought 5gal of BioSyn so I'll be on that for the foreseeable future...

what is this that you speak of? and where did you get it?
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Search the forum for oil change and similar words. You'll find at least three recent threads on oils, to include reports on lab analysis, specs, etc.

I didn't know choosing an oil could be so complicated. I even got chided (nicely) for choosing Mobil 1 Extended for my first home change because it only meets the owner's manual specs, not the A3 rating, which is what MINIs and BMWs require in Europe.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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what is this that you speak of? and where did you get it?
Vegetable Oil. No kidding.

http://www.renewablelube.com/

Terry Dyson at Dyson Analysis is a big fan of this stuff... supposedly outperforms synthetics in a variety of ways (cold engine protection so you can drive hard right from the start, better ring sealing for less fuel dilution, low wear, long life). The numbers I've seen look impressive. Scott Riqui is running it now, I'm going to be running it. We'll see how the numbers look in our cars...

I'm not running it because it's "green"... I'm running it because an expert I trust believes I'll get more engine life from this stuff. Worth a try. Frequent oil analysis will tell me if he's right...
 

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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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I have an oil change coming up... Maybe I will try it. Consider that my morning commute is really short, the engine gets completely warm maybe once a week.

Blimey, wear did you get yours?
 

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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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royal purple ftmfw!
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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The BioSyn is looking like some real good stuff so far, at least in my car. I've had a 6,000-mile analyses done already, and I should have the results of the 10,000-mile analysis later this week.

But, I found the "virgin" specifications for the BioSyn 5W-30 tonight and compared them to the results of my 6,000-mile analysis. (Specs for fresh oil in blue, specs after 6,000 miles in red):

Viscosity at 40° C - 59 56.3
Viscosity at 100° C - 10.8 10.3
Viscosity Index - 177 175
Flashpoint - 419° F 410° F

So from a viscosity breakdown/flashpoint reduction standpoint, the BioSyn has hardly changed at all after 6,000 miles compared to when it was new. I'm really excited to see how the numbers look after 10,000 miles. On all the tests I've had done on the MINI oil, it was just about shot by 9-10,000 miles, so I'm curious to see how the BioSyn compares.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by arizona29
I'm a new MC owner and I dont want no sleezy jiffy loob oil unless they put in good stuff
so what do you recogmend? plus if u can put in how much it should cost for just the oil
First search for "oil change" or "sythetic oil" and you will find many threads where your question is discussed and answered extensively.

Like-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=132949

Jiffy lube is fine if the person knows what to do and you use full synthetic oil of the right weight.

I buy the oil and filter/O ring and take it to Goodyear and they do it for $19 labor but oil discard fee.

Many good oils out there- your choice.

The dealer will always use Castrol Syntec 5W-30 oil.

I have used-
Royal Purple
Amsoil
Redline
Mobil 1
Castrol Syntec
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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hi guys.. i am currently using Mobile 1 Turbo syn. made for turbo cars... as far so good on my r56
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by minihune

Many good oils out there- your choice.

The dealer will always use Castrol Syntec 5W-30 oil.

I have used-
Royal Purple
Amsoil
Redline
Mobil 1
Castrol Syntec
Do you have a favorite? Notice any difference among them?

BTW, I am envious of your dash. Gorgeous.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rrcaniglia
Do you have a favorite? Notice any difference among them?

BTW, I am envious of your dash. Gorgeous.
The dash makes a difference. Worth the effort and always a nice interior feature day or night.

A favorite oil????

Well I do race so that is why I have been using Royal Purple and redline.

Otherwise I think Amsoil and Mobil 1 are very good as well.

Castrol Syntec I get only when I do the dealership oil changes.

For those who race there is also-

PRO R 0W-20 Racing Oil is an entirely new concept in competition lubrication. Racing engines lose power and waste fuel energy due to oil drag and friction. This maximum power 0W-20 is a unique low viscosity synthetic which cuts oil drag yet maintains a tough low-wear film on highly stressed components. Specially researched friction modifier chemistry relies upon electrostatic adhesion to attack friction at crucial points in valve and power train systems - two sources of hidden power which give that vital edge in acceleration and full throttle output.

CAUTION: Strictly for professional racing and track use only. Some older engines may have inadequate oil pump capacity under race conditions to maintain full oil pressure with this low viscosity product.

4 Litres Price: £83.43 inc vat

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Not cheap but maybe a bit more power. Need to change oil more often.
Maybe good for track and drag racing.

So can I tell the difference in oils? Nope. I do change them before they start to get too old so I'm not really wanting to be able to tell a difference in terms of engine responsiveness.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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I use Syntec 5w30, started because it recommends on the engine. 2003 non-s, bought new, change at about 10K, mostly highway, uses a quart about every 5K, current mileage 157800-no complaints. Buy it at Walmart.
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hoonpv
well, technically, it isn't true synthetic
oh yes it is, the Mobil 1 0W-40 stuff.... both ACEA A3/B3 and BMW LL-01 certified too. good stuff. Though I prefer the German Castrol 0w-30 first. My preference would be:

GC 0W-30, BMW 5W-30, and then Mobil 1 0W-40. All good oils.

GC is a "heavy" 30, Mobil 1 is a "light" 40.

Note, the BMW 5W-30 is not the same Castrol 5W-30 "crap" you can get at Autozone or Checker. Buy it from the dealer, it's the good European blend.
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Note, the BMW 5W-30 is not the same Castrol 5W-30 "crap" you can get at Autozone or Checker. Buy it from the dealer, it's the good European blend.
How can I verify that the stuff from the dealer is better than the "crap" Castrol from AutoZone?
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by resmini
How can I verify that the stuff from the dealer is better than the "crap" Castrol from AutoZone?
BMW 5W-30, ACEA A3/B3. BMW printed on the bottle. The American Castrol 5W-30 is a good oil, but not for a high interval change. Don't expect to go 7,500 miles with that stuff. More info on "Bob is the Oil Guy" website. You can learn lots there. Several folks have posted their oil analysis for the BMW oil, on the website. It's pretty good stuff.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
 
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