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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Just found this on Car and Driver

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t+page-15.html

I read this article when it first came out but didnt pay to much attention to it cause back then I wasnt really into Mini's. But today I found it again and began reading.

I'm still new the the Mini scene but Mini Madness is claiming 245 hp out of a setup that seams pretty basic...where'd they get those number? Has anyone seen a dyno sheet to prove those numbers? I dont know about you guys but I find it hard to believe. Then they are claiming $8000 in mods to the engine alone?!?!? $8000 in mods to what? Maybe I'm just missing something.

If anyone can prove me wrong please do cause I would love to get my MCS to around 250 hp.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Did you read it?

"Under its stubby hood, the Madness Mini had a supercharger drive pulley that upped the blower speed by 15 percent, raising boost from 11.6 to 15.0 psi. Further mods include a ported and polished Madness Stage 3 head with big valves and a Schrick cam, a throttle body bored out from 58 millimeters to 63, a header, and a Borla exhaust system. Larger injectors and a modified ECU added fuel to match the engine's deeper breathing"

Sounds reasonable for a fairly extensive mod package. Why not get in touch with Mini madness?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack
Did you read it?

"Under its stubby hood, the Madness Mini had a supercharger drive pulley that upped the blower speed by 15 percent, raising boost from 11.6 to 15.0 psi. Further mods include a ported and polished Madness Stage 3 head with big valves and a Schrick cam, a throttle body bored out from 58 millimeters to 63, a header, and a Borla exhaust system. Larger injectors and a modified ECU added fuel to match the engine's deeper breathing"

Sounds reasonable for a fairly extensive mod package. Why not get in touch with Mini madness?
Yes I did read it...yet even with those mods it still seams like their numbers are exaggerated.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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i would think that good head work would make those kind of numbers possible. ide hate to see the bill for it to be performed though.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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With those parts and a good tune, it's entirely possible.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Yep...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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On the track, the firm chassis paid off with the best road-course time—by 1.5 seconds—among the front-drivers, as well as the best stop in the class from 130 mph at 534 feet.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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How many hours of labor?

And what's the cost per hour in the math?

It's not too far out of line, and if they did a bunch of massaging of the car to get it to really scream, then it really adds up.

Matt
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
if they did a bunch of massaging of the car to get it to really scream
It did make peak HP at 7100 and peak torques at 4000. It's a little screamer.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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I believe they have dyno's of their packages on their website... They have quite a bit on info on there, and from what I hear, George is great to work with!!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Baxter
I believe they have dyno's of their packages on their website... They have quite a bit on info on there, and from what I hear, George is great to work with!!
http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=182
Sure do!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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I don't know if they're bringing THAT car, but I believe Madness is bringing 3 MINIs to AMVIV this year.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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I believe that GM made an engine called a Quad 4 (4 cylinder) back in the 80s which was used in Oldsmobiles, made 500+ HP with a supercharger and some other routine mods. This was a screaming LITTLE engine! When you have a supercharger and work the heads, pistons, put in a cam, headers etc, you really goose the juice!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Lots of people have similar results for less invested. I have not read the article. Does it claim wheel hp? Calibration of the dyno and whether it is "at the wheels" is important to know.

My 2003 MCS with 57000 miles has 15% pulley, RMW head and tune, OBX header, cheap ebay ($350) no name aftermarket exhaust, 440 cc Bosch injectors and Alta intake. That is about it for performance goodies.

239 hp,
190 ft lb. tq. at the wheels.

See my Gallery. No cam, no bigger throttle body, stock intercooler.

IMHO, best deal is the RMW head and tune.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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I don't think it's the same car, but George is making some impressive results on MINIs. 2 years ago at the 1st NAMCC race (AMVIV3), George's flat black car was the only car seriously competitive in the unlimited class with Randy Webb's "Mule".
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:31 AM
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thanks
 
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