Suspension Koni Adj. Yellow Sports, TSW Springs, and H-Sport Camber Plates Installed
Koni Adj. Yellow Sports, TSW Springs, and H-Sport Camber Plates Installed
Ok I finished and just got back from a test drive....WOW!!!
The steering is so crisp and reponsive compared to the Stock Sport Suspension and this is on Studded Snow Tires! I think I will have to wear a G-Suit once I get the Summer Rubber on!!
Driving Impressions:
-1) Like I said above very quick steering
-2) Minimal body roll that I can feel
-3) 2 Degree Negative Camber on front
-4) Koni' set to 1/2 from full soft (1 turn stiff) and ride is amazing! In fact I would say it is better then the OEM bouncy ride I noticed and is not harsh at all!
-5) Able to accelerate out of the corners earlier w/o loosing, as much traction
-6) Drop so far is pretty minimal..but will let suspension settle for a few days then measure.
Dislikes:
-1) H-Sport Camber plates seem to be occasionally creaking on slow parking lot manuevers. Also in neighborhood bumpy streets at slow speeds. Not sure "if" there is anythng I can do to help that? Or just a concequence of these plates?
-2) The additonal front negative camber, steering wheel does not want to return to center as quickly/easy coming out of a turn. It almost wants to keep turning if you took your hands off the wheel??
Install Notes:
Fronts:
-1) Passenger side for some reason is harder to get the new strut in to the knuckle on the lower a-arm/hub carrier. Seems the a-arm does not drop down as far as the drivers side did. Had to get creative to compress the spring/assembly to get it to slide in to the a-arm. Using a car jack and breaker bar which Jon Kessel showed me how. Great technique for removing the OEM's too.
-2) Rears you do have to modify 2 holes from the OEM assembly from 10mm to 12mm. A 15/32" drill bit works too as that is 11.9mm (close enough) You have to drill out the upper spring seat to 12mm and the Concave Washer. I did on a drill press and worked great. Just hard to do the washer as it wants to spin..but got it done. The rest of the parts are provided by Koni.
- I was able to do the passenger side w/o a spring compressor just had to have my wife's help. The drivers side we were close but just couldnt compress it that extra 1/8" so took over to local shop and they compressed it for me for free!
All in all a awesome combination!!! Can wait to get the summer rubber (TBD) and SSR Comp wheels on!
If I can figure out the camber plate noise that would be a bonus!!
The steering is so crisp and reponsive compared to the Stock Sport Suspension and this is on Studded Snow Tires! I think I will have to wear a G-Suit once I get the Summer Rubber on!!
Driving Impressions:
-1) Like I said above very quick steering
-2) Minimal body roll that I can feel
-3) 2 Degree Negative Camber on front
-4) Koni' set to 1/2 from full soft (1 turn stiff) and ride is amazing! In fact I would say it is better then the OEM bouncy ride I noticed and is not harsh at all!
-5) Able to accelerate out of the corners earlier w/o loosing, as much traction
-6) Drop so far is pretty minimal..but will let suspension settle for a few days then measure.
Dislikes:
-1) H-Sport Camber plates seem to be occasionally creaking on slow parking lot manuevers. Also in neighborhood bumpy streets at slow speeds. Not sure "if" there is anythng I can do to help that? Or just a concequence of these plates?
-2) The additonal front negative camber, steering wheel does not want to return to center as quickly/easy coming out of a turn. It almost wants to keep turning if you took your hands off the wheel??
Install Notes:
Fronts:
-1) Passenger side for some reason is harder to get the new strut in to the knuckle on the lower a-arm/hub carrier. Seems the a-arm does not drop down as far as the drivers side did. Had to get creative to compress the spring/assembly to get it to slide in to the a-arm. Using a car jack and breaker bar which Jon Kessel showed me how. Great technique for removing the OEM's too.
-2) Rears you do have to modify 2 holes from the OEM assembly from 10mm to 12mm. A 15/32" drill bit works too as that is 11.9mm (close enough) You have to drill out the upper spring seat to 12mm and the Concave Washer. I did on a drill press and worked great. Just hard to do the washer as it wants to spin..but got it done. The rest of the parts are provided by Koni.
- I was able to do the passenger side w/o a spring compressor just had to have my wife's help. The drivers side we were close but just couldnt compress it that extra 1/8" so took over to local shop and they compressed it for me for free!
All in all a awesome combination!!! Can wait to get the summer rubber (TBD) and SSR Comp wheels on!
If I can figure out the camber plate noise that would be a bonus!!
Last edited by cpayne; Feb 23, 2008 at 04:21 PM.
Noise is no longer an issue with my plates. I guess they are broken in or something. It's been 10,000 miles since I had them installed.
After adding camber plates on my car with -2º camber, the steering wheel was more prone to returning to center. I think more camber makes the castor's effect on the return to center more pronounced.
Noise is no longer an issue with my plates. I guess they are broken in or something. It's been 10,000 miles since I had them installed.
Noise is no longer an issue with my plates. I guess they are broken in or something. It's been 10,000 miles since I had them installed.
Will report back on that here in a few days.
Regarding noise...you running H-Sport plates?
thx!
-2) Rears you do have to modify 2 holes from the OEM assembly from 10mm to 12mm. A 15/32" drill bit works too as that is 11.9mm (close enough) You have to drill out the upper spring seat to 12mm and the Concave Washer. I did on a drill press and worked great. Just hard to do the washer as it wants to spin..but got it done. The rest of the parts are provided by Koni.
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I know that, I was just reafirming that with stock ride height return to center is improved with camber plates and generous neg camber.
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