R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 Got me a Cooper S last night!

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Got me a Cooper S last night!

And boy, am I as excited as a kid at Christmas! Cannot believe it took me 6 years after the release of the Mini to give it a try. Didn't even try to resist it. But found a 2002 Cooper S with Sport package and Sunroof. Only 40000 miles. Gave them only 14800 for it at the dealership. Not bad I hope.

Anyways, just a couple of questions.

1st: Is there somewhere on here to type in a VIN and get a build sheet?

2nd: Now do I find out what was optional and what was standard back in 2002 (such as auto climate control, XENON lights, wheels, etc..)

3rd: Is there any known problems with 2002s that I should be watching out for. Only have 90 days worth of warranty, so hope it isn't a bad year for the MINI.

Glad to be part of this community. Prior to this, I was a Jeeping offroad enthusiast for many years. Now I'm giving the racing MINI a shot for a hobby. So far, I cannot stop smiling. So cool!

-Mike
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Congratulations and welcome to NAM.

No place here to get the build sheet -- but the dealer can do that.
The listing of options from your dealer will then tell you a lot about what was optional on your car. I can tell you the auto climate and Xenon would not have been standard. They are stand-alone options or part of the premium and/or sport packages.

One problem to look for in all MINIs is strut tower mushrooming. If you do a search on NAM, you can read quite a bit about it.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Watch out for the gearbox. That seems to have been an issue in the 2002-04 cars.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Congrats!

Most of the "bugs" should have been delt with, with that many miles.
rear suspension bolt (recall, at least on the 03's)
coolant tank leaking
boot latch not working (wont close/ open)
emissions recalls (at least on 03's)

Congrats again, and have fun.

What are you doing here? You should be out driving!

Nik
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by xsmini
Congrats!

Most of the "bugs" should have been delt with, with that many miles.
rear suspension bolt (recall, at least on the 03's)
coolant tank leaking
boot latch not working (wont close/ open)
emissions recalls (at least on 03's)

Congrats again, and have fun.

What are you doing here? You should be out driving!

Nik
You're right, I should be, but I haven't taken delivery yet :( Maybe this afternoon. Was -3 and real icy last night, so I took the truck home.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gromit801
Watch out for the gearbox. That seems to have been an issue in the 2002-04 cars.
Are you thinking of the regular Cooper? Our Cooper S' gearboxes are all Getrag built...the only difference from 02-04 -> 05-06 was gearing differences.

Both are built like a brick shithouse. I love all things Getrag.

- Matt
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by verveAbsolut
Are you thinking of the regular Cooper? Our Cooper S' gearboxes are all Getrag built...the only difference from 02-04 -> 05-06 was gearing differences.

Both are built like a brick shithouse. I love all things Getrag.

- Matt
That's reassuring. Glad to hear they are built tough.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by verveAbsolut
Are you thinking of the regular Cooper? Our Cooper S' gearboxes are all Getrag built...the only difference from 02-04 -> 05-06 was gearing differences.

Both are built like a brick shithouse. I love all things Getrag.

- Matt
Yes, you're right. I blipped over the "S" part of the post.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Congrats!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by eager2own
Congratulations and welcome to NAM.

One problem to look for in all MINIs is strut tower mushrooming. If you do a search on NAM, you can read quite a bit about it.
Get the M7 plates you won't be sorry and you'll drive much happier

Where are the pictures of your ride ? You gotta post pics

Cheers and welcome,

Mike
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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*Borat voice* HIGHFIVE
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Cheers and welcome - Congrats on your purchase!

Donna
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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welcome onboard! $14.8k is not a bad deal

as far as buildsheet, you don't really need it. all the options you can see. ie sports package has s-lites, dsc, foglight, hid, premium has auto ac and sunroof, etc. if you look hard enough on the internet or even here, you might be able to find pdf versions of brochures. edmunds also has options listed tho sometimes they're not entirely correct

enjoy your car. r53's are tremendously fun and lovable
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Uh, read the attached thread about faulty and badly designed Power Steering pumps in older Coopers (see Donna and Mikes sig above about their 2002 Mini burning and going to heaven):

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=73527

You may have been better off by paying few thou more to get an 04 or later model, which have redesigned pumps and reconfigured circuitry installed. Anyway, you should know about this major (I think) problem, and what dealers have done to check it.

2002 was the first American prodcution year, so the cars are spotty at best--U can either get a good one or one that belongs in a junk pile. That's why I waited and got a 2005.

Also, depending on where you live, make sure and look for rust buildup in yr door sill area. there's a sticky on that as well in (ist gen) "Stock Problems" I see yr in Denver as am I so I wouldnt fret this, it's so dry here, but I look every now and then.

If U bought it at Schomp they have one of tthe best service departments around so Im sure they took good care of it.

Welcome to NAM, and good luck with yr new S!
 

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by verveAbsolut
Are you thinking of the regular Cooper? Our Cooper S' gearboxes are all Getrag built...the only difference from 02-04 -> 05-06 was gearing differences.

Both are built like a brick shithouse. I love all things Getrag.

- Matt
really? wish i had the same bulletproof tranny as other 02-04 owners out there. got my MCS from a friend with a problem in 5th, hard to get it in sometimes

btw, congrats on the new Mini, bighaeb
 
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