Gents..this might sound crazy, stupid, and/or lazy...but any reason not to just take a hacksaw to the stock MCS swaybar instead of dropping the rear subframe? I have Randy Webb's Extreme Rear swaybar on order and his design has the straight bar and endlinks are 3 separate pieces. So in theory couldnt you just saw off the stock bar..and pull it out one side? Then install the new bar and brackets then attached end links and bingo..you never had to drop the rear subframe?

Granted a waste of a perfectly good MCS swaybar...

 

It may take more than one cut, but sure. Cut it out.

 

If I am not mistaken, during the development of the Webb swaybar someone did just that, hacking off the ends of the bar and sliding the center section without the bother of lowering the subframe.

 

I used a abrasive cut off wheel in an electric drill. They are available at most hardware stores and it took all of 30 seconds. It beat trying to use a hacksaw in a tight location.
Steve

 

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4 inch cut off wheel on an angle grinder. Pull the old one out as far as you can after unbolting. Cut as close to the bend as you can, then put out from the other side. Takes about 29.37 seconds.

 

 

Another view

 

Here I go again

 

Dead sexy..thx..cant wait!

 

yup. After the Alta PSRS and Webb swaybar install this baby corners
FFFFFLLLLAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT________________________ ______

 

How is it on a day to day drive now? Is it too bumpy to use daily on a commute?

 

Bhozar, the answer to your question is very subjective but I'll try:
(1) I am retired so I don't daily commute. The roads in Florida are relatively smooth.
(2) I changed from run flats to nonrun flats to save weight, also went to 15 pound wheels and M7 springs. After those changes the ride was smoother than stock ( i.e. way to smooth for this old racer and motorcycle rider)
(3) I installed an Alta PSRS and adjustable control arms at the same time I did the Webb sway bar, so I can't tell what settings on which component
is contributing to changes in ride/handling
(4) Changing the sway bar setting would change the ride
(5) I think the ride is okay but some may think it is a little too stiff ( but then again I thought the all steel monoball suspension on my Porsche RSR
GT-3 was 'comfortable'----(i.e.--I am a sicko )
(6) My overall thought is that if someone asks how it rides, that must be a big issue for them. Therefr they should get a ride in a 'equiped'car before
they do the mods.
(7) your experiance my vary, void where prohibited, must have a valid drivers license,must me experianced enough to induce and recover from
drop throttle oversteer

 

At what knotch/mark to you have your webb swaybar set at?

 

Thanks for the info. I dont know anyone that has changed the rear sway bars over here in the UK, so not easy thing to get a ride in. I had no problem with the ride on S-Spokes and runflats. Some of my passengers complained, but the car isnt for them

Roads in England suck. At the moment you can park half a dozen MINI's in a hole on my usual commute to work as it was washed away last Friday

I can always adjust it to back it off for normal driving, and change it again for track days and weekend fun.

 

Here's it's pretty much number one for suspension changes, after ditching the run-flats. Then it's probably lowering springs... I like the front camber plates.

Keep in mind that if you may sell your car later, it's probably worth it to keep the stock bar, uncut, so that you could sell the Webb bar off later on it's own. It would get more $ off the car than on.....

Matt

 

Did you alter caster from OEM? If so how much?

 

Obehave: See Topic in this section for suspension settings "Part way through
sorting camber plates, Alta PSRS"---I temporarily sold the tread from Dr.O

Cpayne: See pictures above for the sway bar setting

 

I was thinking of doing the Webb bar as its adjustable, helix camber plates up front and PSS9's. hopefully make the cars handling a bit more neutral and less prone to understeer. Hence I wanted ot know what the webb bar was like.

Looks awesome installed. shame it isnt likely to ever be seen unless oyu have your wheels off.

 

that will work for that particular sway bar. makes life easy

 

The Webb bar is a nice addition on an otherwise stock car as well. If your wheels have an open design, folks will see it from certain angles.

 

I guess it would be seen on mine then as I have 17" OZ Superlegras. They are quite open.

 

I thought about this before I cut my stock one out but I figured there are a million used stock bars out there that I could buy cheap later if I wanted to remove the bar to sell it. I fiugure it saved me a bunch of headaches by cutting it out and I could do the whole job myself.

 

Today I received the drop shipped Webb Motorsport Swaybar in the mail. Holy cow...this bar is TOP NOTCH! The quality of the kit is amazing. All the parts packed very well and individually packaged. The Red anodized aluminum bits look awesome! I cant wait to install this weekend. Impressions to follow

cp

 

when i replaced my sway bar i sold the oem one to a copper owner for 100 bucks. think of that before using that hack saw.