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To start this thread, considering modifications on a GP3 the latest info is from AUTO BILD they show a video of their August Test.
This is Interesting because they have been driven out lap times on their house circuit the Sachsenring. Same driver Steve Kirsch, all kinds of F56, all interesting hatchbacks, and now the GP3.
Megane RS Trophy R 1:37:57
Seat Leon Cupra R* (2018) 1:37,63
Dynamic F56 JCW ...1:37:88
Honda Civic Type R* 1:38,17
MINI JCW GP3......... 1:38:48
Renault Mégane RS Trophy* (2019)1:38,56
VW Golf GTI Clubsport* 1:39,78
Audi RS 3 1:40,13
MINI JCW AT............ 1:45:23
What's a "Dynamic F56 JCW" ? And is it normal for them to drive with most of the car off the track pavement on curves? I'm sure that would slow the car down right away as soon and it left the actual track pavement (sorta like a golf ball rolling from the fairway to the rough). Maybe that's why that guy in the video's time was about 15 seconds slower than the one on the list.
What's a "Dynamic F56 JCW" ? And is it normal for them to drive with most of the car off the track pavement on curves? I'm sure that would slow the car down right away as soon and it left the actual track pavement (sorta like a golf ball rolling from the fairway to the rough). Maybe that's why that guy in the video's time was about 15 seconds slower than the one on the list.
He may be referring to the dynamic damper option. I have it on my JCW and it is great for long road trips.
Oops, my bad, I was not following the entire thread on this topic!
Last edited by KYDan; Aug 12, 2020 at 04:31 PM.
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What's a "Dynamic F56 JCW" ? And is it normal for them to drive with most of the car off the track pavement on curves? I'm sure that would slow the car down right away as soon and it left the actual track pavement (sorta like a golf ball rolling from the fairway to the rough). Maybe that's why that guy in the video's time was about 15 seconds slower than the one on the list.
It's not only normal, and not only encouraged, but it's necessary. The amount of speed you can carry through the corner by going over the berms is not insignificant. In other words, in order to control the car and stay on the pavement, you'd have to slow down more than any decrease in speed would happen by using the burms. And yes, I spelled them 2 different ways because I'm not sure which is correct, lol!
It's not only normal, and not only encouraged, but it's necessary. The amount of speed you can carry through the corner by going over the berms is not insignificant. In other words, in order to control the car and stay on the pavement, you'd have to slow down more than any decrease in speed would happen by using the burms. And yes, I spelled them 2 different ways because I'm not sure which is correct, lol!
Dynamic Automotive, won the test. Fasted F56 JCW, Of course, all manual. the time of a 42.000 Euro F56 Auto stock you can see at the end )))))))
I think this drive, including 2 high-speed safes, shows how serious Autobild is testing.
This track might be a good spot to do a countercheck!
Step one for "666" will have a tailored 3-way suspension with a high-speed rebound from.......
The setup will be for 9-inch wheels on 17" /18" complete Uniball, kicking out BMW "Screwing"
GP3 2020 front suspension !
Last edited by Clutch Wotan; Aug 14, 2020 at 02:00 AM.
This car runs in 8 weeks, like some others at the test track Sachsenring. We know the stock version did: Honda Civic Type R.. 1:38:17 MINI JCW GP3......... 1:38:48
Last year the race cars were slower in wet conditions
Around 1:26:00 they go there in dry.
Last edited by Clutch Wotan; Aug 14, 2020 at 09:03 AM.
No thats the MINI Sport Steptronic they tested. DTC like ;-)
We will test 2 alternatives to a ASIN Stock Tune Software first and its possibilities.
Thats a reinforced Getrag, which stand`s 500 nM 24H B) Seq. 6 Speed, this transmisson you cant use in public as it works only "unter Vollast"
Stay tuned ;-)
No thats the MINI Sport Steptronic they tested. DTC like ;-)
We will test 2 alternatives to a ASIN Stock Tune Software first and its possibilities.
Thats a reinforced Getrag, which stand`s 500 nM 24H B) Seq. 6 Speed, this transmisson you cant use in public as it works only "unter Vollast"
Stay tuned ;-)
DCT - Dual Clutch Transmission
DTC - Dynamic Traction Control
The JCW has either the older Aisin 6 speed automatic or the newer Aisin 8 speed automatic, not the newer 7 speed Dual Clutch Transmission that's coming in the Cooper and Cooper S.
To develop a suspension the manufacturer gets the complete car with wheelsets. "235mm" seems to be the competitive size, which mounts 7.5 - 9.0 and which offset is the question. This includes of course the most important thing stabilizers.
PS ... i still want a 245 setup for a drag shootout.
Last edited by Clutch Wotan; Sep 4, 2020 at 11:34 PM.
I have experienced a step out from the rear with the GP3 on some tight curves repeatedly. It happens every time on the same curves which are not as tight as some others that are actually tighter. I am contemplating the possibilities of how to address this issue if possible and questioning what may be the best modification to address this issue without a major (terribly expensive) modification. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, it's the typical MINI problem, that the rear is losing control. The original setup is too stiff. MINI suspension has zero adjustment possibilities at the rear. If you watch my videos earlier, you see 2 x highspeed safes.
Folks,
Does the GP3 steer any different "quicker-tighter" than a F56 JCW, does it have any body roll, understeer etc.? I have F/R sways, coilovers and a chassis brace, wondering how different a GP3 would be.
Mini of Peabody has a GP3 in stock
Does the GP3 steer any different "quicker-tighter" than a F56 JCW, does it have any body roll, understeer etc.? Yes, it seems to be quicker and tighter, with less body rolI. But, my 56 JCW is stock, so I cannot really answer your question effectively. have F/R sways, coilovers and a chassis brace, wondering how different a GP3 would be. The GP3 will be faster with the additional horsepower and less weight. See if you can get them to let you test drive the GP3. The f56 JCW is my daily and it has 280 horsepower per a dyno test, but it is nowhere close to the acceleration and speed of the GP3.
