JCW JCW Pro vs AWE Touring Exhaust - Help Me Choose

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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 06:40 AM
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The AWE system deletes the 2nd cat also. 1st cat remains at the down pipe.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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I was not aware of that or any issues that it may create regarding warranty or emissions standards. It might be worth investigating if you have it installed.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 08:05 AM
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as promised, i ran @ Watkins Glen this past weekend. have 2 videos up so far. i ran a microphone to the exhaust. NOTE: i'm also running a catless downpipe so it is louder than just an AWE touring exhaust alone.

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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RDSJCW
The AWE system deletes the 2nd cat also. 1st cat remains at the down pipe.
There's no second cat on JCWs. The JCW Pro exhaust for them doesn't have one either.

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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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I can't speak for the JCW, but my JCW pro has one.

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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mattkosem
There's no second cat on JCWs. The JCW Pro exhaust for them doesn't have one either.

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WRONG!.

Here is my oem JCW 2016 exhaust. note 2nd cat & resonator .
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 12:23 PM
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Awesome run Marco! That STI is killing us on the straights tho
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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Awesome run Marco! That STI is killing us on the straights tho
looks like he definitely had me...i will say a few things on that though..

1) i truly was exhausted. 3 straight days of 95+ degrees had my body/brain drained
2) the car was feeling it too. the tires were giving way big time, especially on this session.
3) i was shifting badly, although you couldn't hear it. i normally engage the clutch, engage gas pedal, drop/ease-off clutch. multiple times during this session i was changing gears and engaging the gas pedal after i fully disengaged the clutch. when that happened, i lost all momentum and for about 1-2 seconds i slowed down. this happened at the top of the S as well as the front straight so he pulled on me everytime. i fixed it but again, it was my last session and too late...we were all exhausted.

thank you though. was a lot of fun, and on a great track.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
looks like he definitely had me...i will say a few things on that though..

1) i truly was exhausted. 3 straight days of 95+ degrees had my body/brain drained
2) the car was feeling it too. the tires were giving way big time, especially on this session.
3) i was shifting badly, although you couldn't hear it. i normally engage the clutch, engage gas pedal, drop/ease-off clutch. multiple times during this session i was changing gears and engaging the gas pedal after i fully disengaged the clutch. when that happened, i lost all momentum and for about 1-2 seconds i slowed down. this happened at the top of the S as well as the front straight so he pulled on me everytime. i fixed it but again, it was my last session and too late...we were all exhausted.

thank you though. was a lot of fun, and on a great track.
Man, you did great! I could only dream... Remember his number. You'll get him next time
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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Note to self. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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Track time seems a lot of fun!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RDSJCW
WRONG!.

Here is my oem JCW 2016 exhaust. note 2nd cat & resonator .
Such a friendly response. Had to double check that I wasn't on a VW forum by accident.

Every pic and diagram I've seen of the JCW Pro exhaust for JCWs definitely shows it without a second cat:





There are definitely JCW factory exhausts without a second cat too:


Maybe it varies by year or country? All of these seem to have a slip fit interface, not a v-band interface like the other two pics there, so maybe they're just not regionally equivalent. KYDan's pics seem to have a second cat on the stock and JCW Pro parts. I'm not really sure which part number he has or which I'll be getting when it comes. I guess I'll see in a couple/few weeks.

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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 01:14 PM
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Post #30 is the system that was installed on my car in January.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vetsvette
Post #30 is the system that was installed on my car in January.
Is it an 18302407323?

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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mattkosem
Is it an 18302407323?

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shot in the dark here...Euro MINI's dont' have a secondary cat. are the pictures of the Euro JCW's?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mattkosem
is it an 18302407323?

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11122359631
 
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
shot in the dark here...Euro MINI's dont' have a secondary cat. are the pictures of the Euro JCW's?
That's my guess. The ETK pic seems to be the same for the kit for Euro and US JCW cars, as is the part number, but the cars seem to be set up differently.

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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vetsvette
11122359631
Gotcha. The JCW Tuning Kit. It seems my dealership has ordered just the exhaust with that other part number.

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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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The JCW exhaust system does have two catalytic converters.




Turbo downpipe with catalytic converter







Front exhaust with catalytic converter
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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The second pic looks like a resonator
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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Yep. That's what I was thinkin'.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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Also, those are aftermarket parts from Supersprint. We're they supposed to be?

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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Yes, they are Supersprint and according to them it is a catalytic converter. I thought the same thing, but if you check their website it is a catalytic converter. Does not look the same as the JCW PRO setup. After I looked at my post I realized it is confusing. It was just to reiterate that the system has 2 catalytic converters. As does the JCW PRO system.
 

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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
as promised, i ran @ Watkins Glen this past weekend. have 2 videos up so far. i ran a microphone to the exhaust. NOTE: i'm also running a catless downpipe so it is louder than just an AWE touring exhaust alone.

Chasing Porsche Cayman S
RTR @ Watkins Glen (2016-07-23) - '14 MINI Cooper S chasing Porsche Cayman S - YouTube

Chasing STI
RTR @ Watkins Glen (2016-07-24) - '14 MINI Cooper S chasing Subaru STI - YouTube
Thanks! you just cost me $875. I was avoiding an exhaust until now. Just ordered the AWE Touring.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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Maybe you already set your mind on the JCW PRO, but figured I'd chime in anyway.

I got a chance to check out a JCW with the AWE Touring Exhaust and honestly, it's far better sounding and looking over the JCW kit. It's much more deep, resonant and throaty sounding, where the JCW is more crackles and popcorn. The tips of the AWE are much larger and sexier looking too.

The only benefit I see in paying an extra $1000 for the JCW is having the Bluetooth toy, which it seems most people complain about anyway. Also manufacture warranty issues on your car, if you want to keep it OEM.

Otherwise... the AWE wins hands down for sound but also for looks.
 
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