JCW Burger Tune for JCW
Got the JB4 upgrade installed. With map 2 it wheelspins on 3rd with 23 lbs off boost. The car is very fast but it's so smooth that you don't realise it. The upgrade it a huge improvement over B48 tune worth every penny of the $150. Highly recommended. No errors of any kind. They just need a full set off instructions for the install and how to change maps and features.
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From: Port Townsend, WA
Got the JB4 upgrade installed. With map 2 it wheelspins on 3rd with 23 lbs off boost. The car is very fast but it's so smooth that you don't realise it. The upgrade it a huge improvement over B48 tune worth every penny of the $150. Highly recommended. No errors of any kind. They just need a full set off instructions for the install and how to change maps and features.
I don't know where you live but it may be different in other countries.
Now, the most important question is how the chassis will be able to handle the added 40 hp and torque of the new JCW engine because if it spins in 3rd (it also does with the JB+ in my Coupe by the way) there is severe stress that will develop to other mechanical components when abused over time.
This may be a good option for a race car purpose but very questionable for a normal daily driver to be safe and reliable in most conditions.
[QUOTE=dube53;4219039]I read on the BM site the JB4 is for racing only and may not be compatible with emission standards in USA. Is your application for street driving?
I don't know where you live but it may be different in other countries.
Now, the most important question is how the chassis will be able to handle the added 40 hp and torque of the new JCW engine because if it spins in 3rd (it also does with the JB+ in my Coupe by the way) there is severe stress that will develop to other mechanical components when abused over time.
This may be a good option for a race car purpose but very questionable for a normal daily driver to be safe and reliable in most conditions.[/QUOTE
I'm not in California. The good thing with JB4 is the ability to change the map on demand. Allowing me to drive my car to the race track. My intention would never to break the omission laws where I live.
That being said these cars are built with a large safety factor and I honestly doubt that the odd time I use the map 2 tune would have any effect on long term reliability. If I trashed the stock car every time I drove it....or ran it really hard when it was cold...or changed down at 9000 rpm...that is what you might call severe stress.
The golf r has 300 HP from the same sized engine and it's a way heavier car.....i think 280 in a JCW is around where it should be....and yes it is lots of fun!
I don't know where you live but it may be different in other countries.
Now, the most important question is how the chassis will be able to handle the added 40 hp and torque of the new JCW engine because if it spins in 3rd (it also does with the JB+ in my Coupe by the way) there is severe stress that will develop to other mechanical components when abused over time.
This may be a good option for a race car purpose but very questionable for a normal daily driver to be safe and reliable in most conditions.[/QUOTE
I'm not in California. The good thing with JB4 is the ability to change the map on demand. Allowing me to drive my car to the race track. My intention would never to break the omission laws where I live.
That being said these cars are built with a large safety factor and I honestly doubt that the odd time I use the map 2 tune would have any effect on long term reliability. If I trashed the stock car every time I drove it....or ran it really hard when it was cold...or changed down at 9000 rpm...that is what you might call severe stress.
The golf r has 300 HP from the same sized engine and it's a way heavier car.....i think 280 in a JCW is around where it should be....and yes it is lots of fun!
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From: Port Townsend, WA
[QUOTE=GregoryK;4219043]
The Golf R is a far better car with AWD technology and structural engineering design. Sorry, The Mini cannot compete here. I have a friend who has one. I don't say I like it but overall it is a far better car than any Mini.
I never heard of a Mini engine going up to 9000 rpm either. Mine is exhausted and shuts off at 6500.
Also, an added 40 HP from 228 is for a total of 268 and not 280. we can always dream.
I read on the BM site the JB4 is for racing only and may not be compatible with emission standards in USA. Is your application for street driving?
I don't know where you live but it may be different in other countries.
Now, the most important question is how the chassis will be able to handle the added 40 hp and torque of the new JCW engine because if it spins in 3rd (it also does with the JB+ in my Coupe by the way) there is severe stress that will develop to other mechanical components when abused over time.
This may be a good option for a race car purpose but very questionable for a normal daily driver to be safe and reliable in most conditions.[/QUOTE
I'm not in California. The good thing with JB4 is the ability to change the map on demand. Allowing me to drive my car to the race track. My intention would never to break the omission laws where I live.
That being said these cars are built with a large safety factor and I honestly doubt that the odd time I use the map 2 tune would have any effect on long term reliability. If I trashed the stock car every time I drove it....or ran it really hard when it was cold...or changed down at 9000 rpm...that is what you might call severe stress.
The golf r has 300 HP from the same sized engine and it's a way heavier car.....i think 280 in a JCW is around where it should be....and yes it is lots of fun!
I don't know where you live but it may be different in other countries.
Now, the most important question is how the chassis will be able to handle the added 40 hp and torque of the new JCW engine because if it spins in 3rd (it also does with the JB+ in my Coupe by the way) there is severe stress that will develop to other mechanical components when abused over time.
This may be a good option for a race car purpose but very questionable for a normal daily driver to be safe and reliable in most conditions.[/QUOTE
I'm not in California. The good thing with JB4 is the ability to change the map on demand. Allowing me to drive my car to the race track. My intention would never to break the omission laws where I live.
That being said these cars are built with a large safety factor and I honestly doubt that the odd time I use the map 2 tune would have any effect on long term reliability. If I trashed the stock car every time I drove it....or ran it really hard when it was cold...or changed down at 9000 rpm...that is what you might call severe stress.
The golf r has 300 HP from the same sized engine and it's a way heavier car.....i think 280 in a JCW is around where it should be....and yes it is lots of fun!
I never heard of a Mini engine going up to 9000 rpm either. Mine is exhausted and shuts off at 6500.
Also, an added 40 HP from 228 is for a total of 268 and not 280. we can always dream.
I have 300HP in my GP2 for 26K daily driver and in still want more. My M4 is at 600HP and my Countryman will be at 300hp soon.
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After, tell us your story if the car is still drivable on public road.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
[QUOTE=dube53;4219055]
The Golf R is a far better car with AWD technology and structural engineering design. Sorry, The Mini cannot compete here. I have a friend who has one. I don't say I like it but overall it is a far better car than any Mini.
I never heard of a Mini engine going up to 9000 rpm either. Mine is exhausted and shuts off at 6500.
Also, an added 40 HP from 228 is for a total of 268 and not 280. we can always dream.
Just to clarify BHP and you can change down on a standard and hit 9000rpm easily.
One more thought. A heavier car puts way more strain on the engine and drive train. Imagine driving with 4 people in your MINI all the time.....you think that would not stress the chassis?
The Golf R is a far better car with AWD technology and structural engineering design. Sorry, The Mini cannot compete here. I have a friend who has one. I don't say I like it but overall it is a far better car than any Mini.
I never heard of a Mini engine going up to 9000 rpm either. Mine is exhausted and shuts off at 6500.
Also, an added 40 HP from 228 is for a total of 268 and not 280. we can always dream.
One more thought. A heavier car puts way more strain on the engine and drive train. Imagine driving with 4 people in your MINI all the time.....you think that would not stress the chassis?
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[QUOTE=GregoryK;4219097]
Yeah....... I know what is BHP and you are free to blow your engine if you want to have no RPM limiter and try it. A new engine will cost you more than the value of your Mini. This is odd comment.
Also, nobody buys Mini HT anymore to carry 4 people since the 70's because they always flex like garbage cans if you turn a bit too fast.
Also, nobody buys Mini HT anymore to carry 4 people since the 70's because they always flex like garbage cans if you turn a bit too fast.
[QUOTE=dube53;4219336]
Yeah....... I know what is BHP and you are free to blow your engine if you want to have no RPM limiter and try it. A new engine will cost you more than the value of your Mini. This is odd comment.
Also, nobody buys Mini HT anymore to carry 4 people since the 70's because they always flex like garbage cans if you turn a bit too fast.
OK. I think we all got the fact that you think it is not a good idea to do anything that will stress the engine and transmission. Your mind is clearly made up and you have been very, very clear with that. So not sure why you are joining in this discussion which is about a particular brand of tune. To be specific "Burger Tune". Terry has clearly (from your point of view) designed a unit that will stress out and blow up our "cheaply made cars". It might be more helpful to write him a letter and express your general view on the subject with him....or start your own tread with your view rather than derail this discussion.
Yeah....... I know what is BHP and you are free to blow your engine if you want to have no RPM limiter and try it. A new engine will cost you more than the value of your Mini. This is odd comment.
Also, nobody buys Mini HT anymore to carry 4 people since the 70's because they always flex like garbage cans if you turn a bit too fast.
OK. I think we all got the fact that you think it is not a good idea to do anything that will stress the engine and transmission. Your mind is clearly made up and you have been very, very clear with that. So not sure why you are joining in this discussion which is about a particular brand of tune. To be specific "Burger Tune". Terry has clearly (from your point of view) designed a unit that will stress out and blow up our "cheaply made cars". It might be more helpful to write him a letter and express your general view on the subject with him....or start your own tread with your view rather than derail this discussion.
Last edited by GregoryK; Jun 23, 2016 at 07:00 AM.
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From: Port Townsend, WA
[QUOTE=GregoryK;4219370]
OK. I think we all got the fact that you think it is not a good idea to do anything that will stress the engine and transmission. Your mind it clearly made up and you have been very, very clear with that. So not sure why you are joining in this discussion which is about a particular brand of tune. To be specific "Burger Tune". Terry has clearly (from you point of view) designed a unit that will stress out and blow up our "cheaply made cars". It might be more helpful to write him a letter and express your general view on the subject with him....or start your own tread with your view rather than derail this discussion.
I said you cannot run any Mini production engine to 9000 RPM without internal failure.
This is not hard to understand. Nobody needs an engineering degree here. This is just common sense.
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OK. I think we all got the fact that you think it is not a good idea to do anything that will stress the engine and transmission. Your mind it clearly made up and you have been very, very clear with that. So not sure why you are joining in this discussion which is about a particular brand of tune. To be specific "Burger Tune". Terry has clearly (from you point of view) designed a unit that will stress out and blow up our "cheaply made cars". It might be more helpful to write him a letter and express your general view on the subject with him....or start your own tread with your view rather than derail this discussion.
This is not hard to understand. Nobody needs an engineering degree here. This is just common sense.
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Up so far i considered "Tuning Boxes" as a cheap way to enhance "Rice Steamers" and diesel cars.
Following the Burger story i must admit we are looking forward to get our ordered kit asap to test it on our Cooper S. Iam keen to use the Meth-Map to see how it works with the reservoir behind the bumper, the supplied 3 ltr. std container is than for the windshield.
Map 1 - Standard B48 MINI Prokit tuning 200-cell open exhaust, reinforced radiator and CAC approx up to 230 HP.
if Map 2 can use the this hardware with around 260 Hp on demand this is it ! Combined with a drastic weight reduction on the front axle, i don't fear anybody on the trac - and evaporate a Golf R with this daily friend:
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/a.1569909749893124.1073741827.1567621906788575/1715611548656276/?type=3&theater
Imagine a Map 3 surprise for dentist in their Porsches at red stops
Following the Burger story i must admit we are looking forward to get our ordered kit asap to test it on our Cooper S. Iam keen to use the Meth-Map to see how it works with the reservoir behind the bumper, the supplied 3 ltr. std container is than for the windshield.
Map 1 - Standard B48 MINI Prokit tuning 200-cell open exhaust, reinforced radiator and CAC approx up to 230 HP.
if Map 2 can use the this hardware with around 260 Hp on demand this is it ! Combined with a drastic weight reduction on the front axle, i don't fear anybody on the trac - and evaporate a Golf R with this daily friend:
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/a.1569909749893124.1073741827.1567621906788575/1715611548656276/?type=3&theater
Imagine a Map 3 surprise for dentist in their Porsches at red stops
Up so far i considered "Tuning Boxes" as a cheap way to enhance "Rice Steamers" and diesel cars.
Following the Burger story i must admit we are looking forward to get our ordered kit asap to test it on our Cooper S. Iam keen to use the Meth-Map to see how it works with the reservoir behind the bumper, the supplied 3 ltr. std container is than for the windshield.
Map 1 - Standard B48 MINI Prokit tuning 200-cell open exhaust, reinforced radiator and CAC approx up to 230 HP.
if Map 2 can use the this hardware with around 260 Hp on demand this is it ! Combined with a drastic weight reduction on the front axle, i don't fear anybody on the trac - and evaporate a Golf R with this daily friend:
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
Imagine a Map 3 surprise for dentist in their Porsches at red stops
Following the Burger story i must admit we are looking forward to get our ordered kit asap to test it on our Cooper S. Iam keen to use the Meth-Map to see how it works with the reservoir behind the bumper, the supplied 3 ltr. std container is than for the windshield.
Map 1 - Standard B48 MINI Prokit tuning 200-cell open exhaust, reinforced radiator and CAC approx up to 230 HP.
if Map 2 can use the this hardware with around 260 Hp on demand this is it ! Combined with a drastic weight reduction on the front axle, i don't fear anybody on the trac - and evaporate a Golf R with this daily friend:
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
Imagine a Map 3 surprise for dentist in their Porsches at red stops
Don't think you can push start a MINI....and from memory they got rid of the crank handle in the 60's.:-)
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From: Germany Hamburg
plus this
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/p.1716944821856282/1716944821856282/?type=3&theater
25 kgs per axle
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/p.1716944821856282/1716944821856282/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/p.1716944821856282/1716944821856282/?type=3&theater
25 kgs per axle
https://www.facebook.com/1567621906788575/photos/p.1716944821856282/1716944821856282/?type=3&theater
plus this
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
25 kgs per axle
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
25 kgs per axle
https://www.facebook.com/15676219067...type=3&theater
When you say 25kg /axle....what is that? Driverless car?
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