Interior/Exterior Interior and exterior modifications for Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Interior/Exterior Ram intake project

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:11 PM
  #376  
///ACS330Ci's Avatar
///ACS330Ci
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by M7
The first mold we made is capable of wet layup and vaccum-bag layup so
CF will be produced right away.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:57 AM
  #377  
cooldaddy's Avatar
cooldaddy
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: same as yesterday
wow, that's ugly...

Originally Posted by MSFITOY
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 03:21 PM
  #378  
J0kER's Avatar
J0kER
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
From: EastSide .: =0)
waaaat kinda "CRAP" is this!?!?!!?!?!?!?

Originally Posted by MSFITOY
 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 09:14 AM
  #379  
fdavid's Avatar
fdavid
4th Gear
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
From: nyc
There's a real shortage of carbon fiber so Peter's pricing is more than fare. As I previously mentioned in another thread, we were going to buy a series of carbon fiber chairs a couple months ago and were told that CF was low due to the new contracts Boeing and Airbus have currently in China. SO the inmediate supplies are mostly headed in that direction for a while.
+++here's the link to the CF discussion+++
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=carbon+fiber
 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:57 PM
  #380  
cooldaddy's Avatar
cooldaddy
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: same as yesterday
I hope to see some (good) pics of the CF version posted before the end of the month so I can place an order before the price goes up. As I'm not familiar with how the the standard scoop is held in place will this new one be "plug and play", meaning no rework required to make it fit and will it work with both standard IC and the Alta or GSR which have different scoop hardware?

thanks!
 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 03:04 PM
  #381  
M7's Avatar
M7
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,594
Likes: 2
From: los angeles
Some news on the "Ram Intake"......

Had a meeting Friday at the Composite shop, checked the mold out and literally
saw the first and second unit come out of the molds. The next step is to polish
the mold for a close to mirror finish to the parts.

I will most likely have the first finished part on Tuesday readdy to ship.
As for CF, the orders are 6:1 in favour of CF.....I'm surprised. I will keep the current price untill Feb 1st

Peter
Team M7
562-608-8123
 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 03:05 PM
  #382  
MSFITOY's Avatar
MSFITOY
Thread Starter
|
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 7,926
Likes: 40
From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by cooldaddy
I hope to see some (good) pics of the CF version posted before the end of the month so I can place an order before the price goes up. As I'm not familiar with how the the standard scroop is held in place will this new one be "plug and play", meaning no rework required to make it fit and will it work with both standard IC and the Alta or GSR which have different scoop hardware?

thanks!
I have mentioned in this thread that modification to (better yet, elimination of) the factory plastic diverter will be required (the part that is attached to the hood which covers the top of the intercooler). Peter will be supplying instructions I'm sure. I developed this intake in conjuntion with my Alta IC which eliminated this part. Without modification, the extra aperture would be defeated by the restrictive factory opening. Sorry if I didn't make this clear. Perhaps JS could chime in...
 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:17 PM
  #383  
DrPhilGandini's Avatar
DrPhilGandini
My little dose of LITHIUM
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,435
Likes: 2
From: Albuquerque New Mexico
When I placed my order with Peter last week he said the new scoop would take me "about 10 minutes" to install and that consequently it would not come with installation instructions. He's a knowledgable, cool guy, so I have no doubts this will be the case. Even if it isn't, there must be a mod to the OEM gasket piece (the OEM gasket is on the bonnet, the Alta gasket is on the IC cover) that will make the Ram Intake work with it, Im sure.

cheers,
phil
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:32 AM
  #384  
JS's Avatar
JS
3rd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I have mentioned in this thread that modification to (better yet, elimination of) the factory plastic diverter will be required (the part that is attached to the hood which covers the top of the intercooler). Peter will be supplying instructions I'm sure. I developed this intake in conjuntion with my Alta IC which eliminated this part. Without modification, the extra aperture would be defeated by the restrictive factory opening. Sorry if I didn't make this clear. Perhaps JS could chime in...
OK I'll chime in now. I needed to first discuss the situation with Peter. Because we designed the scoop to fit on Sid's car, Alta IC equipped, we changed the opening's rearward edge. In order to accommodate a stock air diverter we will have the fabricator trim the pieces to the original depth of the scock scoop. So those who do not wish to change their IC, will not need to replace the stock air diverter or IC. It will be a simple replacement of the new Ram Air scoop for the stock scoop. In applications with after market IC's, it will work as a stock scoop would work, with the added advantage of greater air flow.

Joel
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:53 AM
  #385  
DrPhilGandini's Avatar
DrPhilGandini
My little dose of LITHIUM
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,435
Likes: 2
From: Albuquerque New Mexico
So, it appears as if the Ram Intake will fit on a stock bonnet/diverter/IC setup, but what about any compromise on the performance as suggested by Sid? The real reason for getting this scoop is for increased air flow and greater cooling of the IC/air charge. The bling factor is surely secondary (we could have had CF JCW scoops a long time ago if that were the goal.)
Still, time will tell. It shouldn't be too long before the first ones are shipped and we'll start to see them on cars, and get feedback. Unfortunately, even here in the desert it's really cold, so the cooling tests will have to wait until warmer weather.

Phil
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:58 AM
  #386  
SumWon's Avatar
SumWon
5th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Originally Posted by JS
So those who do not wish to change their IC, will not need to replace the stock air diverter or IC. It will be a simple replacement of the new Ram Air scoop for the stock scoop.
I am very happy to hear that the decision has went this direction. I think this provides the product greater versatility as it is not being tied to a specific aftermarket IC. Since most aftermarket IC products are design to work in conjunction with the stock scoop, the Ram Intake will now be able to work with any IC currently on the market (including stock) or any new ones available in the future.

Good call guys!
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:13 AM
  #387  
cooldaddy's Avatar
cooldaddy
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: same as yesterday
yeah ...

Originally Posted by SumWon
Good call guys!
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:53 PM
  #388  
JS's Avatar
JS
3rd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
As was said throughout this thread; the Ram Air Scoop was designed to flow more air at any given speed and in any weather. It will work this way in any given application; stock or aftermarket IC. (for any IC that would use a stock scoop) Of course each condition that changes, be it ambient temperature or make of IC, driving speed, etc, there may be different amounts of cooling of the intake charge from one setup to another. In other words; results will vary from car to car, location to location. We couldn't test under all conditions, but if you reread MSFITOY's enteries, you will see the amount of change, from a stock scoop to the Ram Air Scoop in the conditions that he tested.
Hope this assures you that this will work as designed.
Joel
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:06 PM
  #389  
MSFITOY's Avatar
MSFITOY
Thread Starter
|
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 7,926
Likes: 40
From: Greensboro, NC
The temperature change were the same whether it was 72F or 15F ambient...14-15F between AIT and ambient for RIP, 24-26F for stock intake
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:10 PM
  #390  
Android993's Avatar
Android993
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 267
Likes: 3
From: San Diego
I can't wait any longer!
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:35 PM
  #391  
M7's Avatar
M7
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,594
Likes: 2
From: los angeles
Got a call this morning from the composite shop....... Yes the mold is primo
and the first part was pulled from the mold today, all perfect the man said

I'l most likely camp out all night, outside the shop so I'l be the first to see the part in the morning......right

peter
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:15 PM
  #392  
///ACS330Ci's Avatar
///ACS330Ci
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Was it a fiberglass or carbon fiber part?

Originally Posted by M7
Got a call this morning from the composite shop....... Yes the mold is primo
and the first part was pulled from the mold today, all perfect the man said

I'l most likely camp out all night, outside the shop so I'l be the first to see the part in the morning......right

peter
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:21 PM
  #393  
TheWrks's Avatar
TheWrks
Coordinator :: Michigan MINI Motor Club
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,554
Likes: 0
From: Farmington,MI Ex-Pat
Originally Posted by M7
Got a call this morning from the composite shop....... Yes the mold is primo
and the first part was pulled from the mold today, all perfect the man said

I'l most likely camp out all night, outside the shop so I'l be the first to see the part in the morning......right

peter
Sweet
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:28 PM
  #394  
M7's Avatar
M7
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,594
Likes: 2
From: los angeles
He who get's the first one knows the answer......
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:33 PM
  #395  
///ACS330Ci's Avatar
///ACS330Ci
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by M7
He who get's the first one knows the answer......
I guess we'll have to wait for the pics.

BTW, what number am I
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:34 PM
  #396  
MSFITOY's Avatar
MSFITOY
Thread Starter
|
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 7,926
Likes: 40
From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by ///ACS330Ci
Was it a fiberglass or carbon fiber part?
Fiberglass is made of made of very thin strips of glass, usually grown at glass farms. Carbon Fiber is a byproduct of human waste after we consume a lot of brand...............takes a lot of crap to make this stuff and it's only going to get more expensive because no one likes collecting this *****...Carbon Fiber parts are molded pieces made from this byproduct
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:37 PM
  #397  
///ACS330Ci's Avatar
///ACS330Ci
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Carbon Fiber is a byproduct of human waste after we consume a lot of brand...............takes a lot of crap to make this stuff and it's only going to get more expensive because no one likes collecting this *****...Carbon Fiber parts are compressed pieces made from this byproduct
LOL, OK does that mean you're get the first fiberglass one? That's a byproduct of sand BTW
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:50 PM
  #398  
TheWrks's Avatar
TheWrks
Coordinator :: Michigan MINI Motor Club
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,554
Likes: 0
From: Farmington,MI Ex-Pat
Originally Posted by M7
He who get's the first one knows the answer......
Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:58 PM
  #399  
M7's Avatar
M7
Former Vendor
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,594
Likes: 2
From: los angeles
Pick me! Pick....did you say human *****
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:18 PM
  #400  
TheWrks's Avatar
TheWrks
Coordinator :: Michigan MINI Motor Club
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,554
Likes: 0
From: Farmington,MI Ex-Pat
Originally Posted by M7
Pick me! Pick....did you say human *****
I don't shovel that shirt
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:22 PM.