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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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A couple weeks back I posted news that I've been working on a laser mod for my cooper. A lot of people said they didn't agree with the mod because they thought it was too dangerous, and I also got defensive against Old Rick and I apologize, I took his comments too personal, I understand all of your concerns.

So, I hereby vow to use my lasers strictly for good and not evil, and hope you all can just trust me on that front. Nonetheless, I really want to share the results with this particular community, it's somewhat fascinating...

More photos: 007 Laser Cooper on Flickr

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Because one can doesn't mean one should musiq021. As cool as it looks, I would respectfully ask that you concentrate on another MINI Mod. We don't want to be reading about ya in the papers some morning
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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You should point them straight ahead and wire them to fire on one of the extra steeringwheel buttons, like the center button on the left hand track select paddle(assuming you have the wheel with buttons on the backside). Then they will be like starwars lazers you can fire at stuff, all while keeping your hands on the wheel.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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This sounds incredibly b****y, but I hope you are caught with them and prosecuted. They are incredibly unsafe and hopefully they're confiscated from you before you burn the retinas of some poor unsuspecting bystander, and I pray that bystander is not me or my family when I am in your area.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Love the Laser's, where did you get them? I want to do something like that on my next car. Off road of course
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MLPearson79
This sounds incredibly b****y, but I hope you are caught with them and prosecuted. They are incredibly unsafe and hopefully they're confiscated from you before you burn the retinas of some poor unsuspecting bystander, and I pray that bystander is not me or my family when I am in your area.
That wasn't very nice. Who are we all to say that he is going to use them while driving? And they do look like they are pointing up towards the sky.

But all this leaves me to ask... Why do you have them and what are you going to use them for? If while driving then I may have to agree with MLPearson79 on this one. Really cool mod for "off road" use.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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I know it wasn't nice. But they have a range of god-knows-how-far. Just because you're in the car and can't *see* someone doesn't mean they aren't getting hit with it. I'm not like a big legality/safety guru, but to me this just has disaster written all over it, and my point was that I hope it comes in the form of fine/confiscation rather than injury to an unsuspecting party.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MLPearson79
I know it wasn't nice. But they have a range of god-knows-how-far. Just because you're in the car and can't *see* someone doesn't mean they aren't getting hit with it. I'm not like a big legality/safety guru, but to me this just has disaster written all over it, and my point was that I hope it comes in the form of fine/confiscation rather than injury to an unsuspecting party.
I can somewhat see your point, but if he's using them off road, how many chances are there of hitting a person you can't see right in the eye, AND that person staying still enough for their retina to be burned?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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If it's a class III laser (which they certainly appear to be), they are serious equipment, and damage can be caused just be looking *at* the beam, not simply being hit in the eye with it.

Class 3 lasers are medium power lasers or laser systems that require control measures to prevent viewing of the direct beam. Control measures emphasize preventing exposure of the eye to the primary or specularly reflected beam.

Class 3 denotes lasers or laser systems that can produce a hazard if viewed directly. This includes intrabeam viewing or specular reflections. Except for the higher power Class 3 lasers, this class laser will not produce diffuse reflections. Visible cw HeNe lasers above 5 mW, but not exceeding 500 mW radiant power, are examples of this class. Class 3 lasers have a distance of a minimum of 500 yards.
I mean whatever, I agree they *look* cool. I just think the gazillion dollar lawsuit when someone gets injured is not so sexy.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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Use with discretion. As with a ton of other car equip. It could just be for show.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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how much did this cost you?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by xnotfunkylex
That wasn't very nice. Who are we all to say that he is going to use them while driving?
The OP said it in a previous thread when asking about going about the mod. Insisting they would help spot deer and would look cool to turn on while driving twisty roads at night stating " I live in out in the country in wisconsin, and will undoubtedly flick them on momentarily while driving"

Also by the looks of the photos, these have already been used in a manner that puts neighbors at risk.

from the FDA...
Class III laser products produce radiation powerful enough to injure human tissue with one short exposure to the direct beam or its direct reflections off a shiny surface. Class Ill visible radiation lasers emit less than 500 milliwatts (or onehalf watt) continuous output.
Class III is subdivided into Classes IIIa and IIIb. Class IIIa is limited to five milliwatts in the visible spectrum. More stringent requirements apply to Class IIIb lasers.
As of September 20, 1985, the following policy is legally binding: Before Class IIIb or Class IV lasers are sold, used in performances, or otherwise introduced into commerce for demonstration or entertainment purposes, manufacturers must have an approved variance from FDA.
Once a variance is granted, representatives of FDA must be allowed to inspect the laser equipment and the safety procedures to assure that the conditions of the variance are met.
FDA should be notified in writing of all shows at least 1 month in advance. When this is not possible because of last minute scheduling, FDA should be notified by telephone as soon as possible and then a written confirmation should be sent to FDA.
Anyone who operates laser light shows without an approved FDA variance or who otherwise violates the FDA laser safety standard may be subject to a court injunction andlor civil penalties (fines up to $300,000) as provided for in Section 360C of the Radiation Control for Health and Safety Act. When FDA becomes aware of a particular laser show that is operated in violation of the law or otherwise in an irresponsible fashion, FDA will notify the manufacturer or operator and require corrective action. If the problem is serious, FDA will also notify the State and local authorities and facility managers who can take additional, immediate legal steps to halt a hazardous show.
Notification to the FAA of a proposed open air laser light show should be made in writing at least 2 weeks and preferably 4 weeks in advance of the performance. FAA can usually respond with a determination within 7 days. The notification should be directed to the Chief of the Airspace and Procedures Branch at the regional office having jurisdiction over the area where the laser show will take place. The addresses and phone numbers of the appropriate office for each area will be found in Appendix II
In addition, all States and many local agencies have the authority to take action if a laser show endangers the general health and safety of the public.
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/NEW00609.html
Momentary exposure from a laser pointer, such as might occur from an inadvertent sweep of the light across a person's eyes, causes only temporary flash blindness. However, even this can be dangerous if the exposed person is engaged in a vision-critical activity such as driving
And a link to a few more FDA bits of literature.
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2005/305_laser.html
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/script....cfm?topic=209

That ought to cover for discussion purposes where things stand for safety legally.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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i think its an amazing mod. but in order to keep people from being all upset and cranky, i would have put them in the car some where to "hi-light" some sort of area where the beam would be disrupted in the car.
for instance the headliner. point the beams from the front lip of the headliner maybe under the sun visors to point at the lip in the rear headliner, therefor the beam would not be in anyones eyes and no one can sit here and pick on you for Great creativeness. but yet it would look awesome.

mods do not have to have a reason for them.. so i dont understand why peolpe say its a waste and junk. i honestly like the fact that you used your insightfulness and created something most people havent thought of. if it wasnt for people like this, who put their thoughts into motion, we wouldnt have most of the things we do.. have a little appreciation.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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damn...i had this idea a while back, glad someone else is on the same "wavelength"
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Nice...but I would work on calibrating the lasers to point in the direction/angle as the head lights do so that it does not look like you just strapped them on and let them point where ever...

Very Creative mod and quite fun as long as you use it legally...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MLPearson79
This sounds incredibly b****y, but I hope you are caught with them and prosecuted. They are incredibly unsafe and hopefully they're confiscated from you before you burn the retinas of some poor unsuspecting bystander, and I pray that bystander is not me or my family when I am in your area.
I find it classless of you to assume all bystanders in wisconsin are poor, some of us make a decent living. Also, if your family is getting lazed in the eye, they probably shouldn't be standing in my driveway in the first place, staring into the green beam from 6ft away.

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how much did this cost you?
About $80, and 2 pages of harassment on NAM.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisMCS04
Nice...but I would work on calibrating the lasers to point in the direction/angle as the head lights do so that it does not look like you just strapped them on and let them point where ever...

Very Creative mod and quite fun as long as you use it legally...

You caught me, I spent 2 weeks installing, and then said F it, let's mount them in Jello.

I don't know who you are, so I don't really have to answer to you. And you don't know me, so I assume you know you don't have to condescend me...right?
Wouldn't a more appropriate question be "Did you aim them" instead of "you didn't aim them?"
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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I find it classless of you to assume all bystanders in wisconsin are poor, some of us make a decent living. Also, if your family is getting lazed in the eye, they probably shouldn't be standing in my driveway in the first place, staring into the green beam from 6ft away.



About $80, and 2 pages of harassment on NAM.
I think you read his sentence in the wrong context...he meant that he would feel sorry for the bystander who just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In my opinion this is one of those things that are better left on paper...the consquences could be too great.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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thank you subject, for understanding.
People should consider that life is short, we all die, we all make mistakes and in the end, you will invariably end up as dust, so time spent governing the trivial, is precious time wasted. I'm not going to hurt anybody, don't you remember my vow?
 

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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
I think you read his sentence in the wrong context...he meant that he would feel sorry for the bystander who just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In my opinion this is one of those things that are better left on paper...the consquences could be too great.
I think you read my sentence in the wrong context, I was being satirical. I do understand what he meant, but I'm trying to keep this car conversation lighthearted.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by musiq021
I think you read my sentence in the wrong context, I was being satirical. I do understand what he meant, but I'm trying to keep this car conversation lighthearted.
Well this is the internet so it's hard to know exactly what people are trying to portray through their words. But alass I think you're fighting an uphill battle trying to defend this laser mod of yours. I guess you don't really think you'll end up hurting anyone, but that just means you're willing to risk someone elses well being.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by musiq021
You caught me, I spent 2 weeks installing, and then said F it, let's mount them in Jello.

I don't know who you are, so I don't really have to answer to you. And you don't know me, so I assume you know you don't have to condescend me...right?
Wouldn't a more appropriate question be "Did you aim them" instead of "you didn't aim them?"
I am sorry if my comment offended you. I was not meaning to discredit anything you had done. I think that the mod is f-in sweet. Plus Green lasers are the best kind...

I just did not know how you aimed them. If they were supposed to be at a random target or at something specific...

I just gave you my take...did not mean to upset you, so I am sorry for doing that. I am not a condescending person and do not want to be thought of as one.

Take care and have fun
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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"Well this is the internet so it's hard to know exactly what people are trying to portray through their words. But alass I think you're fighting an uphill battle trying to defend this laser mod of yours. I guess you don't really think you'll end up hurting anyone, but that just means you're willing to risk someone elses well being."

He without sin cast the first stone, I'm aware of the dangers of my lasers and have already agreed to consummate any and all legal precipitants, of which none I plan to face, considering my precaution. You are welcome to say that I am "willing to risk someone elses well being", but not without admitting you are no different. There's a great chance you could kill somebody I love with your high performance vehicle, or inadvertently through any of the other risks you put people in daily, but no one touches on that because "everybody" is doing it, don't single me out and make a saint of yourself because the almighty lawman is on your side, he'll just as soon put you behind bars for smoking a harmless plant.

Now lighten up, stop being so scared, and I'll promise for the last time, not to laze you, and unless you plan on sending the police to my door, why comment further? This accomplishes nothing, choose your battles more wisely.

I feel hypocritical for responding so thoroughly to such empty sentiment, but I also think you are entitled to seeing things rationally, not so emotionally.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Now lighten up, stop being so scared, and I'll promise for the last time, not to laze you, and unless you plan on sending the police to my door, why comment further?
Thanks to google, a very real option Still deciding just how legal or illegal this is first, but I'm sure one phone call with the sheriff (or are you still in Hortonville PD's jurisdiction?) ought clear that up in a hurry, just to see if there even are any laws against that in your area. Of course posting the written approval from the FDA and FAA (and you're well near enough an airport that a plane at 1000ft or less is a real risk) for blasting those lasers into the night sky, would clear you with the photos you've already posted.

And poor is the person that wrecks from the flash blindness when these hit them as you come around a corner or over a hill, and you have undoubtedly flicked them on momentarily while driving, and by the time you see the other person it's too late.
 
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Originally Posted by musiq021
"Well this is the internet so it's hard to know exactly what people are trying to portray through their words. But alass I think you're fighting an uphill battle trying to defend this laser mod of yours. I guess you don't really think you'll end up hurting anyone, but that just means you're willing to risk someone elses well being."

He without sin cast the first stone, I'm aware of the dangers of my lasers and have already agreed to consummate any and all legal precipitants, of which none I plan to face, considering my precaution. You are welcome to say that I am "willing to risk someone elses well being", but not without admitting you are no different. There's a great chance you could kill somebody I love with your high performance vehicle, or inadvertently through any of the other risks you put people in daily, but no one touches on that because "everybody" is doing it, don't single me out and make a saint of yourself because the almighty lawman is on your side, he'll just as soon put you behind bars for smoking a harmless plant.

Now lighten up, stop being so scared, and I'll promise for the last time, not to laze you, and unless you plan on sending the police to my door, why comment further? This accomplishes nothing, choose your battles more wisely.

I feel hypocritical for responding so thoroughly to such empty sentiment, but I also think you are entitled to seeing things rationally, not so emotionally.
There is a difference in magnitude with what you are doing. I think YOU should be the one to choose your battles more wisely. You are correct in saying there is a possible chance of my killing someone in my high performance vehicle, but not solely on the fact that it is a high performance vehicle. Any sort of automobile can kill a pedestrian when in the wrong hands. However you are comparing the speed of light to a CAR. There is nothing you can do to warn pedestrians that there may be a chance a laser will flash them in the eye causing permanent damage. This is where law comes in to play, and why it's so important. It is understood and taught to us by society to stay away from high speed objects due to the danger that may ensue. Parents don't teach their kids to watch for lasers out in the street "because they might get hurt". I am singling you out for this because you know it's illegal and still participate in the activity. You're going to consummate any and all legal precipitants? Are you kidding me? I'm far from worried about YOU, I'm worried about the people you are endangering due to your obvious carelessness to pursue this mod. You are fighting an uphill battle trying to get people to condone this "james bond" deal. Gimme a break this is a freakin joke...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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For me, the big difference is that the car is legal. The lasers are incredibly, well, NOT. You can say all you want, call me paranoid, emotional, whatever...but I think it's very easy to say those things when you're putting someone else's safety in danger and not your own.

Do I think it's creative, that it looks cool? Absolutely. Do I also think it's foolish, irresponsible, and dangerous? Completely.

As far as the smart-alec comments...I was born in Greenleaf. My family (including 3 small nieces) all lives very near you, and I'll be in the area on Wednesday I know you were joking but maybe if you can see it from the perspective of looking out for the safety of your friends and family (or maybe not at your young age, I don't know I guess), you might at least see where I'm coming from, even if you're not able to agree.
 
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