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DIY HPFP Replacement - How to replace High Pressure Fuel Pump on MINI Cooper R56 JCW

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Originally Posted by yesti View Post
Just changed mine using this guide. 2012 S, N18, 37k miles, first replacement. A little over $1k shipped. Installed in under an hour, let it cool for a little over an hour first. Only removed air box and tube feeding turbo. 8mm bolts pump->head, 14mm crow for fuel line. Only pushed one side to release fuel supply line. Electric connector was the hardest thing to get off, had to jam small screwdrivers into the back of the clip to release, clicked back on fine.

Before pump I changed plugs (gapped to .022), coils (bremi) and diverter valve (new version, diaphragm wasnt broken on old one). So hopefully im good for another 37k miles at least, what a POS pump haha. Symptoms were sputter/backfire on cold start and missing when on med-high boost, yellow half engine on tach but not all the time. No codes stored.
Did you check with MINI to see if it would have been covered? Many are being replace free under extended coverage.
 
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Did you check with MINI to see if it would have been covered? Many are being replace free under extended coverage.
i did not. i couldn't be without the car while they diagnosed it, probably for a fee and over the course of more than a day, and since it wasn't throwing any codes i wasn't optimistic. since the job looked pretty easy i just bit the bullet and paid for the part myself. i did hem and haw over it for a bit though.
 
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Thanks OP for the detailed DYI.

I'm currently having P3091 codes being thrown with rough idles. It's not consistent though. My r56 S has to be warmed up for a little, shut down for a little, started up again, and then it starts to rough idle and maybe it'll throw the P3091 and put itself into partial power mode. It seems that I can expedite it to throw the P3091 if I put it in Sport mode.

It seems clear that it's the HPFP but since when did the price jump from $200 since OP to now over $1k?

The Mini dealer by me said that my Mini is covered if it is the HPFP. My concern is that, with how difficult it is to reproduce, the dealer wont be able to successfully diagnose it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
 
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My own isssues

My car started smoking white and smelled of unburnt fuel so I took it to dealer. On my way the car started running fine. The dealer kept the car for 1 week trying to reproduce the problem. I refered my problem to the forums and the answer was to check the HPFP which I directed the dealer to do and asked for a replacement. They said that they couldn't replace just because I said so, that they had to reproduce the problem to diagnose it. A year later I was driving to work and started misfiring and started doing the James Bond smoke screen thing with a horrible smell of fuel. I stopped by the dealer and told the guy...here you go, it's doing it right now. The guy said yes no doubt please turn it off, I can't breathe...LOL. After diagnosing they replaced the fuel pump but turns out that cyl 1 injector was stuck open. This flooded cyl 1 and they recommended a compression check and boroscope to inspect the cylinder and piston. Also, he quoted me for replacing the injectors at 2998.00 dlls with the diagnostics (450.00 dlls for diagnostics). 2 days later, they call me to tell me that cyl 1 compression was at 100# and the other 3 were at 155# and the boroscope test showed damage to the piston. The quote for a refurbished engine was at 13,000 dlls for a 2009 Clubman s that is worth maybe 3,000 dlls. Not happy with any of this I drove the car in limp mode all p'ssed off and ordered the injectors for ECS Tuning (thanks guys) for 62 dlls a pop vice 400 dlls a pop for the factory Mini OEM. By the way, check the Mfg # for both and they are the same. did the work myself in about 2 hours and the car is running great. During my work on the injectors, I found the electrical connector for the HPFP unplugged which was giving me code 2745 Multiplicative mixture adaptation. Also, the oil had lots of fuel in it. After test running the car, my catch can was filling up with fuel so I replaced the oil. Other than that, I recommend to not trust anybody dealer wise and try to do your own work. These guys are out there to sell you a new car by totaling yours. Keep posting these threads. It's the only way we'll keep our cars running the right way. And thanks to ECS Tuning for supporting us with quality parts and Tech help. Do not go too corporate on us and raise the prices astronomically like all of the manufacturers like BMW and Mini do. Thanks guys for reading this.
 
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Hi,

After using this DIY guide today I successfully swapped the HPFP on my 2007 R56 and this guide was excellent. However, I did want to share a few pointers from my experience.

I purchased a new replacement HPFP from a Peugeot/Citroen dealer for a fraction of the cost that BMW were quoting: £360 from Peugeot compared to £900 from BMW/MINI. The part is identical and is actually made by Continental in the Czech Republic so there's no point paying BMW/MINI for the pleasure.

When fitting the pump I couldn't for the life of me remove the low pressure feed. I tried various picks, screwdrivers and punches and it wouldn't come off. Instead I used a 13mm spanner and loosened the nut off that the fuel line connects to on the HPFP. This came off easily and then I simply removed the 13mm connector from the new HPFP and then screwed the line on to the new pump when it was in situ.

This means you don't have to mess around trying to get that annoying fuel line off. Just unscrew it and then screw it in to the new pump.

Another snag that hit me was when torquing down the three fasteners connecting the pump the engine. I'd set my torque wrench appropriately but one the fasteners snapped off! Managed to tease the end out and fortunately had a spare bolt lying around that did the job.

Moral of the story, get new fasteners and save yourself the risk.

Also took the opportunity to fit an ITG panel filter. I'm amazed that this has actually increased the standard BOV noise somewhat. Not bad considering it's cheaper than OEM.

Thanks again to the thread starter and for the other contributors. Much appreciated.
 

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Originally Posted by walk0080 View Post
Do you have the Peugot 207/208 HPFP part number you had ordered? 9819938480 perhaps? That part seems to turn up a bunch of Peugot and MINI options.

Good to know in case we need a cheaper source.
Hi,

Yes, 9819938480 was the Peugeot part number; sometimes quoted as 1920.LL.

I did a lot of research before taking the plunge and buying the Peugeot unit but I can confirm it works on the N14. Even Peugeot confirmed to me that they're the same

Hope that helps.
 
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by guspi76 View Post
My car started smoking white and smelled of unburnt fuel so I took it to dealer. On my way the car started running fine. The dealer kept the car for 1 week trying to reproduce the problem. I refered my problem to the forums and the answer was to check the HPFP which I directed the dealer to do and asked for a replacement. They said that they couldn't replace just because I said so, that they had to reproduce the problem to diagnose it. A year later I was driving to work and started misfiring and started doing the James Bond smoke screen thing with a horrible smell of fuel. I stopped by the dealer and told the guy...here you go, it's doing it right now. The guy said yes no doubt please turn it off, I can't breathe...LOL. After diagnosing they replaced the fuel pump but turns out that cyl 1 injector was stuck open. This flooded cyl 1 and they recommended a compression check and boroscope to inspect the cylinder and piston. Also, he quoted me for replacing the injectors at 2998.00 dlls with the diagnostics (450.00 dlls for diagnostics). 2 days later, they call me to tell me that cyl 1 compression was at 100# and the other 3 were at 155# and the boroscope test showed damage to the piston. The quote for a refurbished engine was at 13,000 dlls for a 2009 Clubman s that is worth maybe 3,000 dlls. Not happy with any of this I drove the car in limp mode all p'ssed off and ordered the injectors for ECS Tuning (thanks guys) for 62 dlls a pop vice 400 dlls a pop for the factory Mini OEM. By the way, check the Mfg # for both and they are the same. did the work myself in about 2 hours and the car is running great. During my work on the injectors, I found the electrical connector for the HPFP unplugged which was giving me code 2745 Multiplicative mixture adaptation. Also, the oil had lots of fuel in it. After test running the car, my catch can was filling up with fuel so I replaced the oil. Other than that, I recommend to not trust anybody dealer wise and try to do your own work. These guys are out there to sell you a new car by totaling yours. Keep posting these threads. It's the only way we'll keep our cars running the right way. And thanks to ECS Tuning for supporting us with quality parts and Tech help. Do not go too corporate on us and raise the prices astronomically like all of the manufacturers like BMW and Mini do. Thanks guys for reading this.

You are welcome, we/I are/am here for you. I am a MINI owner also and always looking for another option or the best deal.
 
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Originally Posted by Finch View Post
Hi,

Yes, 9819938480 was the Peugeot part number; sometimes quoted as 1920.LL.

I did a lot of research before taking the plunge and buying the Peugeot unit but I can confirm it works on the N14. Even Peugeot confirmed to me that they're the same

Hope that helps.
What about pump from Citroen/Peugeot PSA for N18 engines? 1920RT? will that work to for MINI?
 
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For the N18 engine early HPFP from PSA is : 9819938580

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N18B16A/Engine/Fuel/
 
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Will that PSA Pump work in 100% with N18 engine?
I do not want to try pump from N14 engine either OEM MINI of from PSA.
But I want to try pump from PSA for N18 engine cuz it is 50% cheaper than pump from OEM MINI.

I know that old pump for N14 works great from PSA on MINI's cuz you can find many confirmations over internet, but looks like noone confirmed that 1920RT pump from PSA will work on N18.

I'm talking of N14 and N18 pumps made by Continental. Latest N18 pump from Bosch is a different story.

ECS Tunning can you confirm that 9819938580 PSA pump will work on N18 without issues?

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It will work, some people have already confirmed it. Also by looking at the pictures outside of our site, they look the same.
 
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It will work, some people have already confirmed it. Also by looking at the pictures outside of our site, they look the same.
Thanks for the info, I will try that and let you guys know. Thanks one more time.
 
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When putting the fuel line back on the pump u say to torque it down in there steps. I have a 2011 mcs with the n18. So I still need to do the three steps and just end at 19 ftlbs or just torque to 19 ftlbs? And when tightening to the head it's just torque it to one and call it good? Just want to make sure I understand everything.
 
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Anytime you torque anything with more than one bolt it's a good idea to do it in steps.
 
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It will work, some people have already confirmed it. Also by looking at the pictures outside of our site, they look the same.
I can confirm that PSA hpfp is also working on N18 engines after 1000 miles so far so good, so I hope it will stay like that.

Thanks again one more time.
 
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Just did this today on my 2/2012 R56S N18. Made a video how to using this How to as a guide. Hopefully this helps anyone looking to do the job.
 
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