How To Navigation and Audio :: Sirius Sportster 5 Install - 2008 MCS (R56)
Mix-It2
http://www.mixitproducts.com/
I just got one and I'm going to install this either tonight or this weekend.
I'll expand on this write up (or do another one) for full details on how it works, etc.
UPDATE: 6-19-10
So I realized that after installing the Sirius into the AUX line in that it's the only thing I listen to now. It's fantastic. Tons of variety, channels, etc. However for my particular setup I have a Garmin GPS too that is somewhat hard to hear. It would be really great if I could have BOTH the Garmin *and* the Sirius installed into the same single AUX in *at the same time*.
...and now I do.
This is not necessarily a cheap option, but it's one that I love since it works for both GPS navigation and for bluetooth phone conversations that will play over the entire speaker system. (No more trying to hear the person speak over the small Garmin GPS built-in speaker!)
Here is what I purchased:
Mix-It2
http://www.mixitproducts.com/
I also purchased some line cables as well and here's what arrived:

I bought another "Add-a-Circuit" and hard wired the power into the fuse box directly.
This device allows you to connect up for four audio devices into the same single AUX line in at the same time. For me I just have the Sirius and the Garmin GPS. So I connect it here:

I then rewired the connections into a maze of wires and then simply jammed it into the void that's at under the padding at the feet of the passenger side.
The wiring looks like this:

After hooking it up, it all just works as planned.
You can have the Garmin GPS either speak at the same time as the Sirius (or whatever music device you have already in your AUX in). Or, you can do what I chose to do. This Mix-It2 has the ability to do a Priority override for one of the inputs, perfect for GPS.
This means that the music plays fine all the time, but then if I need speaking turn-by-turn directions, the Mix-It2 will stop the Sirius music audio, and then slowly fade it back in when the Garmin is done speaking. It also works with phone calls I make since my Garmin device has bluetooth to connect to my cell phone.
Again, this isn't a cheap option, but now it really feels like I have built-in factory navigation and factory bluetooth for a fraction of the cost.
I love it.
So I realized that after installing the Sirius into the AUX line in that it's the only thing I listen to now. It's fantastic. Tons of variety, channels, etc. However for my particular setup I have a Garmin GPS too that is somewhat hard to hear. It would be really great if I could have BOTH the Garmin *and* the Sirius installed into the same single AUX in *at the same time*.
...and now I do.
This is not necessarily a cheap option, but it's one that I love since it works for both GPS navigation and for bluetooth phone conversations that will play over the entire speaker system. (No more trying to hear the person speak over the small Garmin GPS built-in speaker!)
Here is what I purchased:
Mix-It2
http://www.mixitproducts.com/
I also purchased some line cables as well and here's what arrived:

I bought another "Add-a-Circuit" and hard wired the power into the fuse box directly.
This device allows you to connect up for four audio devices into the same single AUX line in at the same time. For me I just have the Sirius and the Garmin GPS. So I connect it here:

I then rewired the connections into a maze of wires and then simply jammed it into the void that's at under the padding at the feet of the passenger side.
The wiring looks like this:

After hooking it up, it all just works as planned.
You can have the Garmin GPS either speak at the same time as the Sirius (or whatever music device you have already in your AUX in). Or, you can do what I chose to do. This Mix-It2 has the ability to do a Priority override for one of the inputs, perfect for GPS.
This means that the music plays fine all the time, but then if I need speaking turn-by-turn directions, the Mix-It2 will stop the Sirius music audio, and then slowly fade it back in when the Garmin is done speaking. It also works with phone calls I make since my Garmin device has bluetooth to connect to my cell phone.
Again, this isn't a cheap option, but now it really feels like I have built-in factory navigation and factory bluetooth for a fraction of the cost.
I love it.
Sirius radio hook up.. easy as 1,2,3....
First of all anyone hooking up an after mark Sirius ... Oakland Mini has done the work with pictures...Bloody great job!
and all you need is...to buy a special cable. It's a Coaxial Cable, SMB 90 degree (right angle) plug (female contact) to SMB jack (male contact), RG174, 5 foot, 50 ohm for $22:
http://www.cdint.com/catalog/model/SB9SBJ-174-5
a foot longer cable would work better... I have a Stiletto 2 on a Pro-clip... but all is good... 30mins I was hooked up ready to go!
Thanks to all
dfo
and all you need is...to buy a special cable. It's a Coaxial Cable, SMB 90 degree (right angle) plug (female contact) to SMB jack (male contact), RG174, 5 foot, 50 ohm for $22:
http://www.cdint.com/catalog/model/SB9SBJ-174-5
a foot longer cable would work better... I have a Stiletto 2 on a Pro-clip... but all is good... 30mins I was hooked up ready to go!
Thanks to all
dfo
2008 Clubman S Question
Just bought a used 2008 Clubman after losing my 2008 MCS in my divorce (miss the car more than my ex). I just purchased an XM Onyx radio unit, and plan to install it in the area beneath my window controls (I guess it is being referred to as a cubby). I have the aux input and USB. I plan on using the aux input, and the XM dash mount screwed in to the back panel to mount it and provide sound. Now, two questions....Everyone talks about the CD int cable to connect the factory antennae to the Xm unit. I am familiar with that procedure, but I found this on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It looks like the same cable, but a little cheaper. Is cheaper necessarily better? The CDint cable has gold ends, this one on Ebay does not. The factory antennae does not have gold ends either.
Second question: I plan on splicing into the factory cigarette harness and adding an aux power plug (basically an extra plug you can put a car charger in), taping it all up and hiding it nicely underneath the center console. I still need to use my factory cigarette lighter for the various other toys I have in the car, plus it looks ugly. Do I still need to add a fuse to this? Or is the factory fuse for this circuit enough? I know that the factory voltage needs to be below 12 volts to keep from frying the unit, correct? Any info would be appreciated.
I would be happy to do a photo install for people unfamiliar with the XM Onyx, they are like 65 bucks on Ebay...
Thank you!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It looks like the same cable, but a little cheaper. Is cheaper necessarily better? The CDint cable has gold ends, this one on Ebay does not. The factory antennae does not have gold ends either.
Second question: I plan on splicing into the factory cigarette harness and adding an aux power plug (basically an extra plug you can put a car charger in), taping it all up and hiding it nicely underneath the center console. I still need to use my factory cigarette lighter for the various other toys I have in the car, plus it looks ugly. Do I still need to add a fuse to this? Or is the factory fuse for this circuit enough? I know that the factory voltage needs to be below 12 volts to keep from frying the unit, correct? Any info would be appreciated.
I would be happy to do a photo install for people unfamiliar with the XM Onyx, they are like 65 bucks on Ebay...
Thank you!
Update on the install
OK, tried tapping into the existing lighter circuit, but kept blowing the fuse. Followed the directions in this thread and found that it worked perfectly. Now, on the 2008 Clubman, there are a few minor differences:
Remove the two front passenger side seat bolts, then the two screws that hold the cover plate that hides the Sirius antennae connector. You should be able to fish it out with your fingers. You cannot easily remove the cover without removing those two front bolts.
When removing the center console, I found that it does not completely remove, but it is loose enough to where you can work.
In the cubby, there is plastic cover held in place by one screw, just in front of the center console. If you remove that, you can fish the wires through to hide them behind your satellite radio unit. I also zip tied the antennae cord to the existing wiring harness that runs alongside the console (you will see what I mean).
For a ground, even though it is recommended using the shortest distance, I found that underneath the plastic cover in the cubby (the one held by the single screw), there are two 10mm bolts that hold everything in place and seem to bolt into the car itself. It was the same color as my car. You can attach a ring terminal to a piece of wire, and run it alongside under the right side AC unit, up the footwell behind the carpet and to the fuse box. This prevents drilling into your car and having to look for a suitable ground.
For hiding the wires, remove the right side cover, then remove the three screws that hold the AC foot vent in place. You can run the wires underneath there and then put the covers back in place.
On the XM Onyx, you can use the dashboard mount and stick it to the plastic piece that cover the area where the AUX and USB are. You can use the two holes as templates, and after drilling out the two holes can install #6x3/8 machine screws and nuts to hold it in place. I live in Vegas and it gets hot as hell, so I am concerned about the glue for the dashboard mount melting and losing tack. The screws eliminate that issue. You can also put a couple of lock nuts to make sure it really stays.
I chose to wire it to the f32 fuse. Assembly was as described in this thread..
Remove the two front passenger side seat bolts, then the two screws that hold the cover plate that hides the Sirius antennae connector. You should be able to fish it out with your fingers. You cannot easily remove the cover without removing those two front bolts.
When removing the center console, I found that it does not completely remove, but it is loose enough to where you can work.
In the cubby, there is plastic cover held in place by one screw, just in front of the center console. If you remove that, you can fish the wires through to hide them behind your satellite radio unit. I also zip tied the antennae cord to the existing wiring harness that runs alongside the console (you will see what I mean).
For a ground, even though it is recommended using the shortest distance, I found that underneath the plastic cover in the cubby (the one held by the single screw), there are two 10mm bolts that hold everything in place and seem to bolt into the car itself. It was the same color as my car. You can attach a ring terminal to a piece of wire, and run it alongside under the right side AC unit, up the footwell behind the carpet and to the fuse box. This prevents drilling into your car and having to look for a suitable ground.
For hiding the wires, remove the right side cover, then remove the three screws that hold the AC foot vent in place. You can run the wires underneath there and then put the covers back in place.
On the XM Onyx, you can use the dashboard mount and stick it to the plastic piece that cover the area where the AUX and USB are. You can use the two holes as templates, and after drilling out the two holes can install #6x3/8 machine screws and nuts to hold it in place. I live in Vegas and it gets hot as hell, so I am concerned about the glue for the dashboard mount melting and losing tack. The screws eliminate that issue. You can also put a couple of lock nuts to make sure it really stays.
I chose to wire it to the f32 fuse. Assembly was as described in this thread..
I'm glad my write up assisted you.
Where is the antenna lead (2010 Clubman S)
Hi,
I have a 2010 Clubman S and when I look under the passenger seat I don't see a cover (as pictured in Oaklandmini's thread). All I see is a cable that runs to a small yellow box under the seat. I bought a used mini that did not come with the sat radio lead but was under the impression that I can plug this into the roof antenna if I buy the proper cable. I do have the USB / Aux interface in the center console.
BTW - Does anyone know what the yellow box is for???
I have a 2010 Clubman S and when I look under the passenger seat I don't see a cover (as pictured in Oaklandmini's thread). All I see is a cable that runs to a small yellow box under the seat. I bought a used mini that did not come with the sat radio lead but was under the impression that I can plug this into the roof antenna if I buy the proper cable. I do have the USB / Aux interface in the center console.
BTW - Does anyone know what the yellow box is for???
Hi,
I have a 2010 Clubman S and when I look under the passenger seat I don't see a cover (as pictured in Oaklandmini's thread). All I see is a cable that runs to a small yellow box under the seat. I bought a used mini that did not come with the sat radio lead but was under the impression that I can plug this into the roof antenna if I buy the proper cable. I do have the USB / Aux interface in the center console.
BTW - Does anyone know what the yellow box is for???
I have a 2010 Clubman S and when I look under the passenger seat I don't see a cover (as pictured in Oaklandmini's thread). All I see is a cable that runs to a small yellow box under the seat. I bought a used mini that did not come with the sat radio lead but was under the impression that I can plug this into the roof antenna if I buy the proper cable. I do have the USB / Aux interface in the center console.
BTW - Does anyone know what the yellow box is for???
You don't want to mess with anything there.
Here is a thread that provides some more insight:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...y-oem-kit.html
It talks about installing the OEM Sirius unit but it talks about the lack of a cover situation. I just looked under my seat (2010 MCS) and it doesn't have the cover. I am assuming if I cut the carpet (as specified in the linked thread) I will find the purple antenna connector... but I am not certain. If you get to it before I do thedonva, keep us posted.
-Shaggy
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...y-oem-kit.html
It talks about installing the OEM Sirius unit but it talks about the lack of a cover situation. I just looked under my seat (2010 MCS) and it doesn't have the cover. I am assuming if I cut the carpet (as specified in the linked thread) I will find the purple antenna connector... but I am not certain. If you get to it before I do thedonva, keep us posted.
-Shaggy
Dealer said no SAT pre-wire
I had the dealer run my VIN and the tech looked under my seat (probably for the plastic cover). He said I don't even have the pre-wire so cutting up the carpet makes no sense to me. Unless I can tap into the car's rooftop antenna??? At this point I'm not looking to cut into the carpet.
I am in it right now. I don't have the cover under my seat, but I was able to look through the hole that the seat cable comes out of. I was able to see the black connector and the purple connector. So I pulled my seat out so I could access the connector. You may want to check for yourself.
SAT Connector
I'll have to gut the car next weekend - so despite having no cover the car is pre-wired? I don't get it though because the tech at Passport Mini looked under my seat (but was probably looking for the cover).
Cable routing suggestions for 2010 w/carpet (no access panel)
So - I found the pre-wire despite the fact that the dealer says it does not exist (typical). Of course I know now he was just looking for the plastic access panel under the seat.
So it looks like I have two options:
Factory install using the black Sirius adapter or aftermarket via the pink cable. Bummer for the 2010 owners is there is no plastic cover so now I'm trying to decide where to route the cable - any suggestions would be great?
My Mini has NAV so I'm wondering how much the factory install will cost, I'll call the dealer tomorrow to find out.
So it looks like I have two options:
Factory install using the black Sirius adapter or aftermarket via the pink cable. Bummer for the 2010 owners is there is no plastic cover so now I'm trying to decide where to route the cable - any suggestions would be great?
My Mini has NAV so I'm wondering how much the factory install will cost, I'll call the dealer tomorrow to find out.
The pink connector is antenna, the black connector ties the OEM sirius tuner to the dashboard. You will use the pink connector regardless. The OEM sirius unit runs about $500. I was quoted $500 for the unit and $500 for the install from local dealer. Here is a link that discusses that install:
Sirius OEM Install
Sirius OEM Install
First off, I want to thank OaklandMini for his post and his assistance while I was performing this task. I used the same bracket that he used. I installed the Sportster 4 in my 2010 MCs. There are a few subtle differences with my install from his. I don't have a GPS installed so I needed to use some spacers to attach the bracket to the backside of the tach. I needed to use longer screws for this install. I believe the GPS mount kit OaklandMini used probably came with new screws.
My MCs also did not have the screw down cover under the passenger seat, but I was able to fish out the antenna cable through the slit that the seat cable comes through. This did require removing the seat. Here is a link to a thread that contains the specifics of that operation. Seat Removal
In addition to the parts OaklandMini specified above, I used the following:
Round Brass Spacer - 3/8" OD, 1/4" Length, #12 Screw Size. I ordered this online from an excellent hardware provider, McMaster-Carr. Their part number is 90309A179. These spacers are probably available at a local hardware store. I painted the spacers black.
The screws I used are different than the ones I would recommend, but they worked. I used standard #8 x 1" sheet metal screws. Make sure the screws have 16 threads per inch. I painted the heads of the screws black.
The McMaster-Carr screw is already black and has the flattened tip just like the OEM screw. Its part number is 92295A319.



The fuse location on my 2010 is different than Oakland's 2008. I opted for the location that would keep the unit on for approx. 30 minutes after the car is turned off. On the 2010 this was fuse 23. There is a computer logo for this fuse location. I found a thread that helped identify this location. Here is the link:
Hot or Not fuses
Here is a photo of the unit installed. I am not in love with the way I bent the bracket. The unit is somewhat obscured by the steering wheel. I will probably redo the bends when time permits.


My MCs also did not have the screw down cover under the passenger seat, but I was able to fish out the antenna cable through the slit that the seat cable comes through. This did require removing the seat. Here is a link to a thread that contains the specifics of that operation. Seat Removal
In addition to the parts OaklandMini specified above, I used the following:
Round Brass Spacer - 3/8" OD, 1/4" Length, #12 Screw Size. I ordered this online from an excellent hardware provider, McMaster-Carr. Their part number is 90309A179. These spacers are probably available at a local hardware store. I painted the spacers black.
The screws I used are different than the ones I would recommend, but they worked. I used standard #8 x 1" sheet metal screws. Make sure the screws have 16 threads per inch. I painted the heads of the screws black.
The McMaster-Carr screw is already black and has the flattened tip just like the OEM screw. Its part number is 92295A319.



The fuse location on my 2010 is different than Oakland's 2008. I opted for the location that would keep the unit on for approx. 30 minutes after the car is turned off. On the 2010 this was fuse 23. There is a computer logo for this fuse location. I found a thread that helped identify this location. Here is the link:
Hot or Not fuses
Here is a photo of the unit installed. I am not in love with the way I bent the bracket. The unit is somewhat obscured by the steering wheel. I will probably redo the bends when time permits.


ShaggyPE, nice pics and great info.
One suggestion if you're planning on tweaking the bend anyway (since you said you weren't happy with it) is that you MAY want to have the Sportster on the right side instead of the left. This is because the visual display of the unit in far left, and by putting on the left, the wheel blocks a lot of it. But if you mount the device on the right, the display tucks under the wheel nicely and you can see 95% of it at all times.
Thanks for the progress info and pics!
One suggestion if you're planning on tweaking the bend anyway (since you said you weren't happy with it) is that you MAY want to have the Sportster on the right side instead of the left. This is because the visual display of the unit in far left, and by putting on the left, the wheel blocks a lot of it. But if you mount the device on the right, the display tucks under the wheel nicely and you can see 95% of it at all times.
Thanks for the progress info and pics!
Power supply for Sirius tuner
If I just want to use the existing cigarette lighter plug that comes with the Sirius unit, I can plug into either of the DC power supplies that are standard?
Got a little worried about seeing posts that the cigarette lighter plug is 5V.
Thanks.
Got a little worried about seeing posts that the cigarette lighter plug is 5V.
Thanks.
All US R56/55/57 have the SAT PREP option which means the antenna and MOST bus fiber optic connections are in the car. So even if you don't have the plastic box under the seat the connectors are there.
For the cigarette lighter question, the output to the Sirius unit is probably 5V...The input to the lighter adapter needs the 12V input., so plug 'er in to either of the lighter sockets!! The warning is there so you don't hardwire your Sirius unit by "cutting" the cord and splicing that wire into the 12V system when it really needs 5V.
For the cigarette lighter question, the output to the Sirius unit is probably 5V...The input to the lighter adapter needs the 12V input., so plug 'er in to either of the lighter sockets!! The warning is there so you don't hardwire your Sirius unit by "cutting" the cord and splicing that wire into the 12V system when it really needs 5V.
great write up, thanks. i hardwired my xm radio as you prescribed. now i want to add my gps to the same circuit. can i simply cut and splice the wires that go to the gps lighter plug into the wires on the plug side of the xm hook-up?
PDF of complete mod
Thats a fabulous mod you did, I have the same sat radio and would like the same install as yours. any possiblity to have your complete mod in a pdf format so I can print it out.
Really really great work.
I thought I was the only one that hated external wires inside our driving habitat!
later
Paulo
Really really great work.
I thought I was the only one that hated external wires inside our driving habitat!
later
Paulo
adding gps hardwire to existing sat hardwire with adacircuit
Oakland: I hardwired my sportster using add a circuit as you prescribed. Now I want to hardwire my TomTom gps. What is the simplest way to do that? Thanks.
I would just get another add-a-circut and pick a new fuse to pull from and essentially follow the same steps. I have two add add-a-circut's in my Mini for the hard wiring of the Mix-It2 I added later and it's perfect.


