GP Talk (2006) Discussion of the limited edition, MINI Cooper S (R53)-based, John Cooper Works GP.

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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They will rot in dealers lots.
HAHAHA Yessir spot on that one!!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Check MotoringFile Wednesday April 12th 9am EST to see how right or wrong your predictions may be
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Actually the JCW GP was announced last October. And for the record it's 7hp more than the 207hp JCW Kit (in US spec). If you go by BHP (rather than HP like only the US seems to do) it's 218 BHP vs 210 BHP.

Anyway you can find a shed-load of info from the last six months here: Motoringfile Search: "JCW GP"
O'boy! Twice the value!!

Only $1000 per additional hp vs $2000.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Truly worthy of being Craptastic!

Hate to tell you, but this puts you "normal" Craptastic folks to shame! Who's gonna step up?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Hate to tell you, but this puts you "normal" Craptastic folks to shame! Who's gonna step up?
You're right. A super elite class of 415 Diuretic Craptastics to whom the rest of us folks at Team Craptastic will have to bow when in their presence.

But we can now rest at night, fully assured that there others with even less common sense than ourselves.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Check MotoringFile Wednesday April 12th 9am EST to see how right or wrong your predictions may be
Tonight at 10:00, something in your house could kill you...tune in to find out what...



Although I'll be checking in at 9:01 probably...Gabe, have you leaked any info to Todd? Peer pressure will make him buy one...
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mayim
Tonight at 10:00, something in your house could kill you...tune in to find out what...



Although I'll be checking in at 9:01 probably...Gabe, have you leaked any info to Todd? Peer pressure will make him buy one...

I don't think he needs any peer pressure - he's got the GP fever as far as I can tell
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Check MotoringFile Wednesday April 12th 9am EST to see how right or wrong your predictions may be
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
And for the record it's 7hp more than the 207hp JCW Kit (in US spec). If you go by BHP (rather than HP like only the US seems to do) it's 218 BHP vs 210 BHP.
I hate to correct you, but the specs provided were non US specs, as the ad pointed out that US specs may be different. Therefore it really is only 4hp over the euro spec 210hp.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by davisflyer
I hate to correct you, but the specs provided were non US specs, as the ad pointed out that US specs may be different. Therefore it really is only 4hp over the euro spec 210hp.

This has nothing to do with US spec. Both cars are the same. It's just that 214 HP equals 218 BHP. The US uses HP, the rest of the world uses BHP.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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I'm still not impressed....
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Cooper Works GP (threads merged)

Anyone heard of Mini Cooper S Gp????
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Yup, it's on the front page of miniusa.com
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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im still wondering on the cost. if its anywhere near $35k, ill take one. Im looking at getting a new cooper and the price ive customized it to my liking is $32k so prolly $35k after taxes and such. we will see though
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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it is very cool... it that available yet ? or still under prototype???
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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I saw one at the car show yesterday.(Press day, NY) It was cool. No back seat. Weighs about 100 pounds less than stock. The Mini rep said that it would sell for around 30k. That seemed kind of low to me. I have a press kit with a DVD but I haven't looked at it yet.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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Motoring File (and my dealership) are saying the price is $30,600 +$550 delivery. Price out the door at $31,150.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Cooper Works GP...is it really worth it?

I think its a bit crazy that they are building up this car to be so special when it only has 214 bhp....and really not that much more to show for other than a cool aero kit, better handling, cool interior,rear seat delete, and IMO the ugliest 18" wheels I've ever seen.

No offense to JCW works fans, but I just don't see the value here, If JCW is going to make limited production kit cars and charge probably 35K+ for the Works GP car, not to mention only 415 will be coming to the US.
Here is an example, as an owner of a both a 2003 MCS and 2005 Lotus Elise(about 2,000 Elises were brought to the US in '05) considered one of the best, handling cars ever made, and much quicker than any stock Mini, it only cost $39,000....see where I'm going here?

Sorry but if a Mini is going to approach the price of an Elise, not to mention possibly cost as much or MORE than a new Mitsubishi Evo9, and subaru WRX STI, all cars that obliterate any stock Mini in performance, then I just don't see any sense at all in buying a cooper works GP kit. If your going to make limited production kit, and charge that much money, for god's sake the car should have had better looking wheels,and how about a turbo?

For the price of the works GP kit I could probably pay someone to custom-fab a turbo-only kit on my MCS, or for less money buy one of the twincharger kits out there, upgrade my clutch/lsd/flywheel, get coilovers, Sparco seats, rear seat delete, an aero kit, install it all, and probably have money left in the bank when I'm done...for about the same or less money than the works GP kit

If Mini is going to make a car that has a US production run of 415 cars, about the same as the Lotus Exige, this car should make much more of a statement in the peformance department, like in the neighborhood of 250+ bhp and the torque to back it up. 0-60 in just under 6.5 secs can be had in any MCS with a pulley, intake, exhaust and good software. I want the GP body kit and wing though! I'd put one on mine.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MassMiniac
No offense to JCW works fans, but I just don't see the value here, If JCW is going to make limited production kit cars and charge probably 35K+ for the Works GP car,
The price of the GP is $31,150 with the $550 destination charge already included.

BTW, MotoringFile broke the news of the official price
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Ouch

I rest my case then...although not as high as I expected the price to be.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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$31k and change certainly seems like a much better "value" than our former speculation of $35k - $40k for what is essently a track ready club racer. I predict 100% pre-sold vehicles. People, the que is already forming, get on line ASAP.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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if you think the GP isn't worth it, then you should evaluate if you think a regular S with JCW is worth is also. try to spec a MCS with all the bits on the GP and then check out the price.

also, sure you can add a turbo to your MCS, but consider that the GP is covered under warrantee.

the only thing i'm not completly sold on are the looks. as far as what else is offered on the GP, i think it's a great deal if you are interested in a JCW MCS.

my 2¢.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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No longer will I be expressing my opinion in this thread. It isn't allowed.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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it's cool to express your opinion. it's NOT cool to judge others opinions and be a jerk about it.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Not a smoking deal, but not bad. This is priced about $1k more than a factory JCW with JCW suspension kit added. I think that would be a better way to go for most as you would get AC/Xenons/DSC, have a choice of colors, and still have a REAR SEAT, which all Minis have always had from the freaking beginning of time!
 
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