The saga continues. :(
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The saga continues. :(
I'm getting ready to do my own oil change this weekend @5k intervals because Florida is sooooooo hot. I also pump 70 miles a day (round-trip) to/from work 5 days a week, which doesn't count weekend play time with the wife. I'm going with AMSOIL 5W-40 European blend.
So here's my dilemma.
Original MINI oil filter vs MANN? I can't help but notice the difference physical characteristics of the two. MINI has what appears to be plastic ends, where the MANN does not. The filtration elements also seem different.
And so, I'm confused yet again as I have read horror stories of what can happen when using the wrong filter.
Any thoughts and/or advice is humbly welcomed.
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So here's my dilemma.
Original MINI oil filter vs MANN? I can't help but notice the difference physical characteristics of the two. MINI has what appears to be plastic ends, where the MANN does not. The filtration elements also seem different.
And so, I'm confused yet again as I have read horror stories of what can happen when using the wrong filter.
Any thoughts and/or advice is humbly welcomed.
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Yep the Mann does not have the crush washer. We linked it in the thread to the crush washer needed. Both a good filters.
Here is the filter thread for the Gen 2 R56+ engines. Turbo and Non turbo.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...of-choice.html
Thanks
Here is the filter thread for the Gen 2 R56+ engines. Turbo and Non turbo.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...of-choice.html
Thanks
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You can see in the pic above the meeting of the according style filter material factory R56+ MINI filter . Its a little on the left, couple pleats in. There will be a little indentation and and offset pleat. I have seen some with a little indentations , and some that are more noticeable.
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I ran Blackstone Labs analysis on my oil after 5.5K mile change of Mobile 1 0W-40 oil, and it was still good, with minor degradation in the amount of detergents. One cycle I missed the oil change and went for 12K miles. Oil was well past it's prime. The viscosity had dropped significantly, the anti-wear supplements were nearly gone.
Based on the above data points, I'm not running 7.5K mile oil change intervals. YMMV.
Original MINI oil filter vs MANN? I can't help but notice the difference physical characteristics of the two. MINI has what appears to be plastic ends, where the MANN does not. The filtration elements also seem different.
And so, I'm confused yet again as I have read horror stories of what can happen when using the wrong filter.
And so, I'm confused yet again as I have read horror stories of what can happen when using the wrong filter.
Mann is OEM for most BMW oil, air, and cabin filters (so is Mahle). Made in Germany. I've used them for 20+ years on various cars without any regrets.
OEM oil filter is made in France by Pureflux, an Italian multinational. Evidently, manufactured to BMW/MINI standards. If it wasn't sold at a MINI dealership, I would not have touched a Pureflux branded product with a 10-foot pole. But these OEM filters look solid, and everyone has had good luck with them.
Just stay way from auto-parts junk (Fram, Wix, etc), and you will be fine with either Mann or OEM.
More on auto-parts oil filters here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...l-filters.html
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Engine oil temps routinely run way north of 200F, so any variance in ambient temps is immaterial. I ran Blackstone Labs analysis on my oil after 5.5K mile change of Mobile 1 0W-40 oil, and it was still good, with minor degradation in the amount of detergents. One cycle I missed the oil change and went for 12K miles. Oil was well past it's prime. The viscosity had dropped significantly, the anti-wear supplements were nearly gone. Based on the above data points, I'm not running 7.5K mile oil change intervals. YMMV. As others stated, both Mann and OEM (Pureflux, IIRC) are quality oil filters. Mann is OEM for most BMW oil, air, and cabin filters (so is Mahle). Made in Germany. I've used them for 20+ years on various cars without any regrets. OEM oil filter is made in France by Pureflux, an Italian multinational. Evidently, manufactured to BMW/MINI standards. If it wasn't sold at a MINI dealership, I would not have touched a Pureflux branded product with a 10-foot pole. But these OEM filters look solid, and everyone has had good luck with them. Just stay way from auto-parts junk (Fram, Wix, etc), and you will be fine with either Mann or OEM. More on auto-parts oil filters here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...l-filters.html a
@Afadeev: Does it make a difference the MINI OEM has the plastic ends where the MANN does not? That would lead the inexperienced user like myself into believing the MINI it better.
I followed your filter link and it was most informative. That being said, I checked K&N, and they too seem to have the plastic ends.
Thoughts anyone?
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Engine oil temps routinely run way north of 200F, so any variance in ambient temps is immaterial.
I ran Blackstone Labs analysis on my oil after 5.5K mile change of Mobile 1 0W-40 oil, and it was still good, with minor degradation in the amount of detergents. One cycle I missed the oil change and went for 12K miles. Oil was well past it's prime. The viscosity had dropped significantly, the anti-wear supplements were nearly gone.
Based on the above data points, I'm not running 7.5K mile oil change intervals. YMMV.
As others stated, both Mann and OEM (Pureflux, IIRC) are quality oil filters.
Mann is OEM for most BMW oil, air, and cabin filters (so is Mahle). Made in Germany. I've used them for 20+ years on various cars without any regrets.
OEM oil filter is made in France by Pureflux, an Italian multinational. Evidently, manufactured to BMW/MINI standards. If it wasn't sold at a MINI dealership, I would not have touched a Pureflux branded product with a 10-foot pole. But these OEM filters look solid, and everyone has had good luck with them.
Just stay way from auto-parts junk (Fram, Wix, etc), and you will be fine with either Mann or OEM.
More on auto-parts oil filters here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...l-filters.html
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I ran Blackstone Labs analysis on my oil after 5.5K mile change of Mobile 1 0W-40 oil, and it was still good, with minor degradation in the amount of detergents. One cycle I missed the oil change and went for 12K miles. Oil was well past it's prime. The viscosity had dropped significantly, the anti-wear supplements were nearly gone.
Based on the above data points, I'm not running 7.5K mile oil change intervals. YMMV.
As others stated, both Mann and OEM (Pureflux, IIRC) are quality oil filters.
Mann is OEM for most BMW oil, air, and cabin filters (so is Mahle). Made in Germany. I've used them for 20+ years on various cars without any regrets.
OEM oil filter is made in France by Pureflux, an Italian multinational. Evidently, manufactured to BMW/MINI standards. If it wasn't sold at a MINI dealership, I would not have touched a Pureflux branded product with a 10-foot pole. But these OEM filters look solid, and everyone has had good luck with them.
Just stay way from auto-parts junk (Fram, Wix, etc), and you will be fine with either Mann or OEM.
More on auto-parts oil filters here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...l-filters.html
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We linked the washers with the Mann filters. R56+
Here is the Mann version , it does not come with a crush ring. You will need one per filter kit. Part # 11427622446
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/ES2219540_ES19041_ES2652100_ES2594057_ES2598728/
Thanks
Here is the Mann version , it does not come with a crush ring. You will need one per filter kit. Part # 11427622446
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/ES2219540_ES19041_ES2652100_ES2594057_ES2598728/
Thanks
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i've actually had a "Partsmaster" filter and wallyworld mobil1 euro in mine just past 7k. Car is running just fine, i plan to change it by month's end am curious to how it looks, as well as i'll send off a sample to blackstone. If anyone's interested in the results , let me know. Probably longest i've ever run oil in it so far . ( yes i keep an eye on it and top off as needed)
Last edited by eaglebeagle; 07-18-2014 at 11:48 AM. Reason: words r hard
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