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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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I'm purchasing a 2013 JCW-GP this coming Tuesday and I would like to know if these issues are resolved prior me getting a car note...
Did they fix the turbo sludge problem?...
Did they fix the timing chain tensioner issue?...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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So far not any horror stories on the timing chain issue. As for the turbo sludge, never heard any problems with that. But carbon buildup will still be a tiny issue as the deposits of carbon aren't stuck as bad as the N14 engine. Your 2013 JCW won't be that big of an issue in those categories you're worried about. Search some threads to get a bigger consensus. Enjoy your future JCW:-).
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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There have been no issues reported with the N18 engine, but it's been out a relatively short time. Among other things, the N18 should have addressed these N14 issues.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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The dealership is offering me an Extended Service Coverage and Maintenance to extend it to 6y/100,000mi this will be an extra $68 per month on my car note, is it worth it?...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Congrats, I have a GP with no issues, and haven't seen any real complaints yet.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:52 AM
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Tomorrow is "D" day for me to pick-up my JCW-GP!...
I'm still skeptical if I should add the Extended Service Coverage and Maintenance that will extend it to 6y/100,00mi, to my car note...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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I think you will have the opportunity to sign up any time within the first 3 years. Actually, I declined mine and about 6 weeks later they emailed offering $500 off the extended warranty. Is it worth getting immediately? No. Is it worth getting at all? Who knows? Is it worth waiting to get? Without a doubt.

Go fall in love.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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How long will your loan run? If it's 6 years, you'll be paying almost $5,000 for 3 years of maintenance past what's included with the car. Don't you already get free maintenance for the first 3 years? Also, are you likely to keep the car for more than 3 years?

IMHO, maintenance plans only are a good deal for the company selling them - not for the buyer, especially because they don't extend the warranty too.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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So far, it sounds like the N18 motors don't have the timing chain issues that have plagued the N14s. FWIW (IMHO), the best things you can do for your engine are check the oil, and avoid the extended oil change intervals recommended by the OBC. Regular oil changes will combat sludge problems too. There are several threads on oils and change intervals; my personal practice is to change the oil & filter at 1500 to 2000 miles, then again at 5000 and every 5000 miles thereafter.

As for extended warranty and/or maintenance plans, I'm pretty sure that you can purchase those after the purchase of the car. There are several companies that offer extended warranty plans, which are basically an insurance policy. I'm not convinced that the extended maintenance plan is a good value.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pnoy Job
The dealership is offering me an Extended Service Coverage and Maintenance to extend it to 6y/100,000mi this will be an extra $68 per month on my car note, is it worth it?...
Only you can decide if it's worth it. It's a lot of coin for something that may be rarely used if it's even used at all. I'd rather put the $68/mo in a savings account.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RobMuntean
So far not any horror stories on the timing chain issue. As for the turbo sludge, never heard any problems with that. But carbon buildup will still be a tiny issue as the deposits of carbon aren't stuck as bad as the N14 engine. Your 2013 JCW won't be that big of an issue in those categories you're worried about. Search some threads to get a bigger consensus. Enjoy your future JCW:-).
Thank you x2!...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Congrats, I have a GP with no issues, and haven't seen any real complaints yet.
Great to know!... Thank you x2!...
 
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I think you will have the opportunity to sign up any time within the first 3 years. Actually, I declined mine and about 6 weeks later they emailed offering $500 off the extended warranty. Is it worth getting immediately? No. Is it worth getting at all? Who knows? Is it worth waiting to get? Without a doubt.

Go fall in love.
I just like the car so much that I want to make sure that everything will be alright...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Spa2k
There have been no issues reported with the N18 engine, but it's been out a relatively short time. Among other things, the N18 should have addressed these N14 issues.
True, it is fairly new...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spa2k
How long will your loan run? If it's 6 years, you'll be paying almost $5,000 for 3 years of maintenance past what's included with the car. Don't you already get free maintenance for the first 3 years? Also, are you likely to keep the car for more than 3 years?

IMHO, maintenance plans only are a good deal for the company selling them - not for the buyer, especially because they don't extend the warranty too.
I just like the car so much that I want to make sure that everything will be alright...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Victor
So far, it sounds like the N18 motors don't have the timing chain issues that have plagued the N14s. FWIW (IMHO), the best things you can do for your engine are check the oil, and avoid the extended oil change intervals recommended by the OBC. Regular oil changes will combat sludge problems too. There are several threads on oils and change intervals; my personal practice is to change the oil & filter at 1500 to 2000 miles, then again at 5000 and every 5000 miles thereafter.

As for extended warranty and/or maintenance plans, I'm pretty sure that you can purchase those after the purchase of the car. There are several companies that offer extended warranty plans, which are basically an insurance policy. I'm not convinced that the extended maintenance plan is a good value.
I have a 335i and I do the same also... I do my oil change half way what BMW recommends... I just don't understand BMW's algorithm with regards oil changes...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Only you can decide if it's worth it. It's a lot of coin for something that may be rarely used if it's even used at all. I'd rather put the $68/mo in a savings account.
Nicely said... I will put my extra $68 to my savings account...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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I've decided... I'm getting the car with just my regular car note but of course plus GAP...
Thank you x2!...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pnoy Job
Tomorrow is "D" day for me to pick-up my JCW-GP!...
I'm still skeptical if I should add the Extended Service Coverage and Maintenance that will extend it to 6y/100,00mi, to my car note...
You can add that later if you want it, no need to commit just yet
 
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Wahoo!...
Picked up my new JCW-GP this afternoon after work!...
I love this car!...
It makes me smile while I'm driving!...
 
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Congrats! Please post some pics when you have time.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Pictures or it didn't happen!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Pictures or it didn't happen!
Why? Try googling Mini GP, you'll find plenty of pics... hint, it's gray and silver with a hint of red...
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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Can anyone instruct me how to post pics...
I'm new here and I don't even know how to upload a pic for my profile...
 
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