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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Best bang for the buck??

Hey all,

So, took delivery of my 2010 Clubby S about 2 months ago and the mod bug has bitten me hard. This was a demonstrator and had no miles so first owner is me. I am finally safely out of my breakin in period. I must admit, I am fairly a newbie so to speak at turbos, tuning, etc. This is really the first car that has made me want to mod AND had so many different aftermarket choices it makes my head spin.

I currently live in Germany. Was active duty Army, got out and stayed here so I commute frequently on the autobahn.

My goal is to get my 172 hp bumped up to around 200-220 hp. The German Mini dealership I deal with is fairly open minded in regards to my warranty as long as they install the parts and they don't appear to be manufactured from a cereal box.

This is my daily driver so only looking to install mods that dont involve modding the ECU or parts that have to be monitored constantly for possible faults, fitment issues, etc. Getting stranded on the Autobahn is not my goal.

So long story short, I am looking for suggestions as to the most common, well fit, least possible trouble causing mods that can get me to my goal. So far I have only installed the DoS CAI (which I love) and definately plan on getting the BSH OCC with boost tap for engine protection.

Suggestions, brands, parts, companies will all be most appreciated!!
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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No suggestions at all?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Ok, I'll bite

Need more info about the car...in particular is it a US or Euro model.

If it is a US model then and Alta AP or RMW tune would get you close to your HP goal.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3336814

There is a lot in this thread and it is worth reading from page 1 to the end.

RMW makes a good tune also...

If it is a Euro model, your out of luck here. You might be able to find some tuners there.

FWIW - This blog has discussion on just about every subject you can think of related to your mini. Best suggetion is to do some searchs.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:10 AM
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Thanks for the response.

It is a US specification clubby.

I have read the entire thread about the accessport but still leary of messing with my ECU. I have also read about cold side, hot side pipes, intecooler upgrades, Millteck, Nvidia, Alta, Stramosphere etc exhausts and mid way through each thread I read about fitment issues, CEL codes popping up hoses getting loose after a period of time, etc. I am just looking for tried and true mods that people have had no issues with that gives reasonable results for the money and dependable.

Living Overseas I am not looking to order parts and then get the run around with customer support or returning items back and forth across the ocean.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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Intake, intercooler, piping exhaust, and a tune and lose a bunch of weight and you will be good.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Modifying the ECU by a tried and true tuner will not require any maintenance.

As far as other ideas:
-Intercooler will net you about 5-10whp if the core is nice.
-free flowing exhaust (do you have emission standards?) will net you 8-12whp
-Intake will net you about 5-8whp

That's about all you're going to be able to do before you get into replacing the turbo, injectors, etc.

Don't forget your suspension work. You have a Mini - it takes a lot of money to go fast in a straight line, might as well take em in the corners.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by adr3naline fix
Modifying the ECU by a tried and true tuner will not require any maintenance.

As far as other ideas:
-Intercooler will net you about 5-10whp if the core is nice.
-free flowing exhaust (do you have emission standards?) will net you 8-12whp
-Intake will net you about 5-8whp

That's about all you're going to be able to do before you get into replacing the turbo, injectors, etc.

Don't forget your suspension work. You have a Mini - it takes a lot of money to go fast in a straight line, might as well take em in the corners.
Your a little optimistic about your numbers there. But those mods are good.

Really the best bang for your buck is N2O. But it gets tedious having to refill the bottle all the time.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Your a little optimistic about your numbers there. But those mods are good.

Really the best bang for your buck is N2O. But it gets tedious having to refill the bottle all the time.
Disregard this post. If you're not comfortable tuning your ECU, or installing mods, then nitrous is not for you.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Whats wrong with N20? If you run no more than a 75 shot you will never have a problem. The people who problems are the people who are running 100+ on stock internals. Might want to look into it before you knock it.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Whats wrong with N20? If you run no more than a 75 shot you will never have a problem. The people who problems are the people who are running 100+ on stock internals. Might want to look into it before you knock it.
I've installed and used nitrous on many cars. I have one car that currently uses it. It's not the jet you need to be about. It's the user.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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If you're looking for horsepower, then do a turbo back exhaust and intercooler. After your warranty runs out then get the accessport and have a seriously quick MINI
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Remember he has a Euro MINI so Ap won't work.

And yes the user can screw stuff up when using N2O
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by seepw
Thanks for the response.

It is a US specification clubby.
Once he's done overseas or his warranty runs out then maybe he won't mind messing with the AP. I love it on my car.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to reply all.

After reading through the threads pertaining to the AP and an exhaust back system I am really close to pulling the trigger and doing it. That with my DoS CAI should get me to Stage 2 tune with the AP if I am understanding it correctly and that should put me about where I want to be.

Seems alot of happy customers with the AccessPort and seeing how it is maintenance free I really should not be worried to much about it being Overseas since it really doesnt need upgraded so to speak.

My wife made the huge mistake the other night in saying that the clubby was my car and was tired of me talking about parts. Boy was that a mistake on her part!
 
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If you are going for a tune then look at a new intercooler...the tune will run more boost which means higher intake temps. There are a number of good ones out there - Helix (I have), Forge and Alta. The Helix is a really easy install.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...group-buy.html

I think the group buy is done for now, gives you the idea.

If you are doing FMIC, then put in a hot side boost tube (the NM one is mostly metal and doesn't flex under pressure). You will have everything apart to put in the FMIC, so this makes changing this out easy.

The coldside boost tube is good to do also, plus you get rid of the "noise maker". This you can do anytime. Again I suggest the NM one.

For handling, here is a zero cost mod...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post2645888

Look at post 44. You will need to get the toe-in reset. But this is a fantastic improvement in handling.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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One more:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...6-exhaust.html

cost is good, sounds good with a bit of improved Hp...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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If your looking for power check out the Forge FMIC, it will give you power and be reliable with no CEL or warranty issues. The tubes are easy to install at the same time too.
Also the NM torque arm bushing is a GREAT cheap mod to start with. Then you can start bothering with parts that will give you check engine lights and can void your warranty.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Wow! Lots of great info you guys are offering. Let me get to reading about the parts suggested so I can start making some decisions and get this started.

once again, I appreciate your time!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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And yes the user can screw stuff up when using N2O
I'd hate to recommend nitrous and then see someone tap the devil juice at 1Krpms right out of the driveway. I've been fortunate enough to see this happen at an Autozone when I was 18. Driver ended up in the hospital missing part of his heel.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by adr3naline fix
I'd hate to recommend nitrous and then see someone tap the devil juice at 1Krpms right out of the driveway. I've been fortunate enough to see this happen at an Autozone when I was 18. Driver ended up in the hospital missing part of his heel.
I have seen multiple Civics and other rice rods running 100+hp shots of nitrous and pop a motor. That is why I made my comment about doing no more then a 75 shot on stock internals. Though I am sorry for the person that that happened to but I always laugh when I see people do dumb **** and blow up there car. Like a video I have on DVD of a guy who blew up his motor spraying way too much and lit the car on fire. Had to explain to the police and fire department that he was illegally street racing.
 
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