If you remember the film "Battle of Britain"...
If you remember the film "Battle of Britain"...
You will laugh your *** off at this.
Yes, there is Mini content.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...ear_175244.htm
Yes, there is Mini content.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...ear_175244.htm
for some reason i coulnt get the full video to load so i went to youtube...it has the show from the german show side with english subtitles. I must say, good episode overall but watching it from the d-power side is no where near as funny as top gear. those three german hosts are boring and silly if you ask me. and i hope they washed those minis soon after cause paintballs can do damage to paint.
"Yeah!!! Stig...James"
"Yeah!!! Stig...James"
Though you have to admit, Sabine is much better looking than any of the Top Gear three! She can be pretty funny, but you have to understand a German sense of humor.
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History repeats itself eh ?
It is said that by the numbers the Germans won the BOB but as seen, it was the determination of the Brits that broke the Luftwaffe's will and led them to victory......
Jeremy did a hell of job considering she had the JCW
This is from the sim at Duxford
It is said that by the numbers the Germans won the BOB but as seen, it was the determination of the Brits that broke the Luftwaffe's will and led them to victory......
Jeremy did a hell of job considering she had the JCW
This is from the sim at Duxford
History repeats itself eh ?
It is said that by the numbers the Germans won the BOB but as seen, it was the determination of the Brits that broke the Luftwaffe's will and led them to victory......
Jeremy did a hell of job considering she had the JCW
This is from the sim at Duxford
It is said that by the numbers the Germans won the BOB but as seen, it was the determination of the Brits that broke the Luftwaffe's will and led them to victory......
Jeremy did a hell of job considering she had the JCW
This is from the sim at Duxford
Number of Bf109E's flying - 1
Number of Spitfire MkI/II's flying - 1
Imagination - Priceless
Worse yet, those late model 109's have Roll Royce Merlins in them, and god help us all, they're installed right side up !
I do disagree, this could have easily been a random encounter of which did happen (remember those "instrument checks" ?)
In the video the Spitfires go into a scissor in attempt to throw off the 109s which works as they cannot get their guns on them. When the spits pull up into the left turn that would also be correct since the 109 generally could outclimb the spit, now if they were in a Lufbery it would be a different story altogether, there the spitfire was king.
Later model 109s (not the E models I believe) suffered from severe P-factor/torque which led to the airfoiled vertical stabilizer. It is my understanding that a hard left turn was avoided by 109 pilots since the combined torque, asymmetrical slat deployment and minimal yaw stability usually resulted in a snap roll. Not sure if that was true with the Spanish built 109's in the video.
It is true that the 109 pilots were taught not to try to turn with the Spit but this video encounter was far from a Lufbery. What I would say is more inaccurate is the low altitude since the 109s generally always had the altitude advantage. But then, perhaps they had a previous encounter that led them to the lower altitude or better yet, the video would not be as effective if no visible horizon existed.
Historians and pilots alike insist that the 109 and the spit were on very equal terms and it was the pilots (and some luck) that usually decided the outcome of an encounter.
What I like is the Spit sneaking in and downing the 109 Leader as they depart for France, with the horrible visibility the 109 provided, this no doubt happened often.....
Number of Spitfire MkI/II's flying - 1
Imagination - Priceless
Worse yet, those late model 109's have Roll Royce Merlins in them, and god help us all, they're installed right side up !
I do disagree, this could have easily been a random encounter of which did happen (remember those "instrument checks" ?)
In the video the Spitfires go into a scissor in attempt to throw off the 109s which works as they cannot get their guns on them. When the spits pull up into the left turn that would also be correct since the 109 generally could outclimb the spit, now if they were in a Lufbery it would be a different story altogether, there the spitfire was king.
Later model 109s (not the E models I believe) suffered from severe P-factor/torque which led to the airfoiled vertical stabilizer. It is my understanding that a hard left turn was avoided by 109 pilots since the combined torque, asymmetrical slat deployment and minimal yaw stability usually resulted in a snap roll. Not sure if that was true with the Spanish built 109's in the video.
It is true that the 109 pilots were taught not to try to turn with the Spit but this video encounter was far from a Lufbery. What I would say is more inaccurate is the low altitude since the 109s generally always had the altitude advantage. But then, perhaps they had a previous encounter that led them to the lower altitude or better yet, the video would not be as effective if no visible horizon existed.
Historians and pilots alike insist that the 109 and the spit were on very equal terms and it was the pilots (and some luck) that usually decided the outcome of an encounter.
What I like is the Spit sneaking in and downing the 109 Leader as they depart for France, with the horrible visibility the 109 provided, this no doubt happened often.....
Last edited by SpitfireMkI; Dec 15, 2008 at 06:42 AM.
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