Thoughts about highway miles and extended maintenance plan
Thoughts about highway miles and extended maintenance plan
If you're planning on putting a lot of highway miles on your MINI, you might want to think twice before paying for an extended maintenance agreement, because you might not get very much out of it. (The OBC stretches the service intervals out considerably if you do a lot of freeway driving).
I got a free extension on my maintenance period to 4 years/50k miles from MINIUSA, but at the rate I'm going, I'm not going to have even one service come due during the extension period. Here's how the OBC-recommended service history has gone so far:
12,500 - car came due for first scheduled service visit ("Oil Change")
33,000 - car came due for second service visit ("Inspection I")
There was less than a year between the two service visits, so I wasn't eligible for a free "annual low-mileage" oil change between the two OBC-recommended visits.
So there's no way I'm going to get more than the two visits out of the standard 3/36k service agreement, and if the OBC tells me to go more than 17k miles before the next visit, even the extended 50k period will have ended as well. This seems likely, since the last interval was almost 21,000 miles. And even if I can squeak in one more service before 50k, it will just be another "oil change", not an inspection.
I'm glad I got the extension for free, because I'd have been a little miffed if I had paid the ~$750 the dealer charges to purchase the extension on my own.
Just something to think about.
I got a free extension on my maintenance period to 4 years/50k miles from MINIUSA, but at the rate I'm going, I'm not going to have even one service come due during the extension period. Here's how the OBC-recommended service history has gone so far:
12,500 - car came due for first scheduled service visit ("Oil Change")
33,000 - car came due for second service visit ("Inspection I")
There was less than a year between the two service visits, so I wasn't eligible for a free "annual low-mileage" oil change between the two OBC-recommended visits.
So there's no way I'm going to get more than the two visits out of the standard 3/36k service agreement, and if the OBC tells me to go more than 17k miles before the next visit, even the extended 50k period will have ended as well. This seems likely, since the last interval was almost 21,000 miles. And even if I can squeak in one more service before 50k, it will just be another "oil change", not an inspection.
I'm glad I got the extension for free, because I'd have been a little miffed if I had paid the ~$750 the dealer charges to purchase the extension on my own.
Just something to think about.
I'm not a big fan of extended warranties in general. The automakers/aftermarket warranty companies set the prices so that on average, they'll pay out less in claims than the warranty costs the buyer.
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
I'm not a big fan of extended warranties in general. The automakers/aftermarket warranty companies set the prices so that on average, they'll pay out less in claims than the warranty costs the buyer.
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
No, we're talking about two completely-different things here. Insuring yourself against potentially devastating/catastrophic losses is a *good* idea.
To use your example, medical coverage is almost always a good idea, regardless of how much you have to spend to get it, because even a short hospital stay can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars. (in 2003, I had *one* surgery, a ten-day hospital stay afterwards, and a few months of physical therapy, and the total bill was $140,000).
Same with car insurance. When an accident can easily result in a lawsuit potentially costing you tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, insurance makes sense.
Things like accident liability and medical conditions can easily wipe out your life savings, but it's not going to be as tragic if you have to drop $2500 to have a clutch replaced on your car.
It's the same reason you shouldn't spend $50 to buy an extended warranty on a $500 camera. Odds are, you're not going to need $50 worth of repairs during the extended period after the manufacturer's warranty expires, and even if you do, spending a few hundred dollars to repair it or $500 to replace it altogether shouldn't be an unbearable loss, so it makes less sense to purchase the additional coverage.
Yeah I agree with you Scott...I didn't spring for the extended maintenance because I'm coming up on 50k and still haven't even hit Inspection II yet because of all the highway miles. I do my own oil changes every 5k and can do all my own standard maintenance, and know people who can get me through anything else that might come up, so I just didn't see the need.
On the other hand, I have a CVT. So I did spring for an extended warranty for the drivetrain because I wanted to protect myself against a potential $5-9k loss there.
On the other hand, I have a CVT. So I did spring for an extended warranty for the drivetrain because I wanted to protect myself against a potential $5-9k loss there.
No, we're talking about two completely-different things here. Insuring yourself against potentially devastating/catastrophic losses is a *good* idea.
To use your example, medical coverage is almost always a good idea, regardless of how much you have to spend to get it, because even a short hospital stay can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars. (in 2003, I had *one* surgery, a ten-day hospital stay afterwards, and a few months of physical therapy, and the total bill was $140,000).
Same with car insurance. When an accident can easily result in a lawsuit potentially costing you tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, insurance makes sense.
Things like accident liability and medical conditions can easily wipe out your life savings, but it's not going to be as tragic if you have to drop $2500 to have a clutch replaced on your car.
It's the same reason you shouldn't spend $50 to buy an extended warranty on a $500 camera. Odds are, you're not going to need $50 worth of repairs during the extended period after the manufacturer's warranty expires, and even if you do, spending a few hundred dollars to repair it or $500 to replace it altogether shouldn't be an unbearable loss, so it makes less sense to purchase the additional coverage.
To use your example, medical coverage is almost always a good idea, regardless of how much you have to spend to get it, because even a short hospital stay can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars. (in 2003, I had *one* surgery, a ten-day hospital stay afterwards, and a few months of physical therapy, and the total bill was $140,000).
Same with car insurance. When an accident can easily result in a lawsuit potentially costing you tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, insurance makes sense.
Things like accident liability and medical conditions can easily wipe out your life savings, but it's not going to be as tragic if you have to drop $2500 to have a clutch replaced on your car.
It's the same reason you shouldn't spend $50 to buy an extended warranty on a $500 camera. Odds are, you're not going to need $50 worth of repairs during the extended period after the manufacturer's warranty expires, and even if you do, spending a few hundred dollars to repair it or $500 to replace it altogether shouldn't be an unbearable loss, so it makes less sense to purchase the additional coverage.
Last edited by wj94; Jun 12, 2008 at 04:17 AM.
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This is what i got from the dealer for maint only I will not get it but might buy the extnded warranty 
Also, Im sure your Motoring Advisor went over the 3 year or 36,000 Mile Free Maintenance program on your new MINI! No cost for Oil Services, Wiper Blades, Brakes (Pads, Rotors, Sensors), Belts, Hoses, and Brake Flushes!
Now, upgrade this warranty to 6 years or 100,000 miles for only $1495.00!
Pre pay your service and save thousands!

Also, Im sure your Motoring Advisor went over the 3 year or 36,000 Mile Free Maintenance program on your new MINI! No cost for Oil Services, Wiper Blades, Brakes (Pads, Rotors, Sensors), Belts, Hoses, and Brake Flushes!
Now, upgrade this warranty to 6 years or 100,000 miles for only $1495.00!
Pre pay your service and save thousands!
I'm not a big fan of extended warranties in general. The automakers/aftermarket warranty companies set the prices so that on average, they'll pay out less in claims than the warranty costs the buyer.
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
That's not to say that you won't be the "lucky" buyer that gets $12 kajillion dollars' worth of work done for free under the extended warranty, but the odds are against it - the actuaries that calculate the prices are *very* good at what they do.
Also, keep in mind that if the car is sold/stolen/totaled after the extended warranty/service agreement kicks in, you can't get reimbursed for the money you spent. (Although you usually *can* get your money back if the car is stolen or totaled *before* the extended plan goes into effect, which not many people know.)
I for one got the extended maintenance plan for 6yr/100K only because it will cover the brakes AND clutch(if need be) now i have never burned out a clutch but you never know. Also my brother's 06 MINI is in dire need of brake work and while he found the parts cheaper online and is doing it himself the dealer wanted 1200 for the job. the 1400 i spent on the plan pretty much gets paid for on the first brake job...and i would feel a lot more comfortable taking Tobey to the dealer for brakes.
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