General MINI Talk Shared experiences, motoring minutes, and other general MINI-related discussion that applies to all MINIs, regardless of model, year or trim.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How Far is your MINI Dealership?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:37 AM
  #1  
jascooper's Avatar
jascooper
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 742
Likes: 0
From: Coopersburg (really), PA
How Far is your MINI Dealership?

I hope MINI is reading these boards and will do something about the total disconnect with dealer locations.

I live near Allentown, PA which is a big town for car dealers and has a large BMW dealership. Doylestown also has a large BMW dealership.

But I have to drive 60 miles to get to my closest dealer, and I'm sure that's not nearly as bad as some people. Yet a mere 20 miles from Mini of the Mainline is another MINI dealer, Otto's. If you live on Long Island, NY there are three dealers, and two of them are 20 miles apart. But if you live in the upstate NY, you can count on a 200 mile drive to your nearest dealer.

What's wrong with this picture?

And since MINI is under BMW's umbrella, how hard would it be to put a tech, parts supply, or service dept for MINI's in a BMW dealer?

I see lot's of MINIs in my area, so it's not like they'd be starving for business. So don't keep a full stock of parts. Keep common ones. How much could it cost to keep a case of oil filters and a few gallons of oil to do yearly maintenance or simple repairs that any capable mechanic could do with their eyes closed.

Sure, MINI wants to have a certain degree of exclusivity, but to put owners through torture is ludicrous.

And please don't tell me it just gives me a chance to motor more. If that were the case then put dealerships in the middle of nowhere, so the drive might be enjoyable.

Consider this thread a petition to correct this problem, and maybe NAM can forward it to someone at BMW when it fills up.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:46 AM
  #2  
Bishamon's Avatar
Bishamon
3rd Gear
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
I guess I'm pretty lucky. My dealer is less than a five minute drive away, and I don't live in a major city.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:21 AM
  #3  
driverphil's Avatar
driverphil
3rd Gear
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: Tucson
two hours each way
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:25 AM
  #4  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 4
From: Paradise
87 miles.

Monterey Peninsula, home of Laguna Seca Raceway, Concours d'Elegance, and an excellent demographic for MINIs -- no MINI dealer.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:30 AM
  #5  
uzun's Avatar
uzun
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, FL
I have not taken delivery yet but the dealer closest to me is 160 miles away!
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:55 AM
  #6  
enjoiergo's Avatar
enjoiergo
1st Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: La Habra, California
25 miles... but with LA traffic -___-
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:05 AM
  #7  
Matoskah's Avatar
Matoskah
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: Huntingdon, PA
My nearest dealer is 3 hours away. I agree, they need better coverage. For instance, there isn't even a dealer in the state capitol of PA.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:08 AM
  #8  
agoldsmith's Avatar
agoldsmith
Neutral
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Mattoon, IL
Approx. 150 miles to the two closest service stations. I pray she never gets hurt.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:15 AM
  #9  
gokartride's Avatar
gokartride
6th Gear
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 38,578
Likes: 2
Two blocks.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:23 AM
  #10  
harley0711's Avatar
harley0711
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 800
Likes: 9
From: Prescott, AZ
One hour if no traffic - and 30 min if early in the morning going and 30 min at 5pm coming back....
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:24 AM
  #11  
phantasms's Avatar
phantasms
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 720
Likes: 13
From: Bedford, NY
Habberstad Mini is probably 10 miles from me.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:33 AM
  #12  
Msteadman's Avatar
Msteadman
6th Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,980
Likes: 1
From: PA
About an hour dependent on traffic. Not too bad, although I'd love having one a block away like some of you.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:49 AM
  #13  
Electron_Mike's Avatar
Electron_Mike
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Manchester, KY
220 miles, which takes about 4 hours, and crossing a time zone! (Mini of Nashville). That's where I've had all my service done, as it's where I bought the car, but there's another dealer in Cincinnati, which is only 180 miles and 3 hours away.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:52 AM
  #14  
Sowellman's Avatar
Sowellman
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 0
From: On the Oregon 5
Two hundred miles and nearly three hours to Portland, unless the rush hour in Durham slows things down.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:17 PM
  #15  
TopGunner's Avatar
TopGunner
2nd Gear
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Hour and half!

My MINI dealer is 94 miles away - and I have to go through city traffic the last 25 miles! I have a BMW dealer 5 minutes from where I work, but they aren't a MINI dealer.

TopGunner
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:28 PM
  #16  
VicSkimmr's Avatar
VicSkimmr
6th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,278
Likes: 14
From: Myrtle Beach, SC
2 hours away and it sucks.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:42 PM
  #17  
MrVvrroomm's Avatar
MrVvrroomm
3rd Gear
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
From: Shakopee, MN USA
9 miles
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:43 PM
  #18  
miniviper's Avatar
miniviper
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
miniviper

The closest dealer is 280 miles away but I bought my MINI at Knauz because of a much better deal. They're 410 miles away so I don't get to take advantage of free oil changes or maintenance; bummer!
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:46 PM
  #19  
jascooper's Avatar
jascooper
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 742
Likes: 0
From: Coopersburg (really), PA
Originally Posted by gokartride
Two blocks.
You guys don't know how lucky you are. It's cheaper for me to do my own oil change than get a FREE one from the dealer (but if I don't get the FREE maintenance, my warranty is voided).

Originally Posted by miniviper
The closest dealer is 280 miles away but I bought my MINI at Knauz because of a much better deal. They're 410 miles away so I don't get to take advantage of free oil changes or maintenance; bummer!
You may have to to keep your warranty intact. You can get the maintenance done at any MINI dealer. It doesn't have to be where you got the car (AFAIK)
 

Last edited by jascooper; Nov 3, 2007 at 12:49 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:59 PM
  #20  
Noegel's Avatar
Noegel
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 734
Likes: 0
I'm going to be using MINI of San Antonio, TX... I'll be stationed in Laredo, so my drive will be around 175 miles. Yuck.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:28 PM
  #21  
SimpsonGI's Avatar
SimpsonGI
Coordinator :: Emerald MINI Car Club
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
From: Eugene, OR
About 125 miles....2 hours of drive time.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:40 PM
  #22  
daffodildeb's Avatar
daffodildeb
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,743
Likes: 5
From: Hot Springs Village, AR
I'm VERY lucky--I'm north of Houston, and so is one of the MINI dealers. Maybe a 20 minute drive.

I am TOTALLY in agreement with you, Jascooper! I've never understood the reason BMW dealers don't have at least minimal capability to service these cars. It would be so easy, and would absolutely be beneficial to sales of these cars. People DO think about the location of their nearest dealer when they make buying decisions, and a tech trained in both MINI and BMW service would make so much sense. Lots more sense, financially, than having to open an entirely new dealership if the sales end doesn't look feasable. IMO, of course, but I think it's valid.

Now, who's got a link to the head honchos at BMW?
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:46 PM
  #23  
sarafil's Avatar
sarafil
4th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
From: Boston, MA
Originally Posted by jascooper

And since MINI is under BMW's umbrella, how hard would it be to put a tech, parts supply, or service dept for MINI's in a BMW dealer?

I see lot's of MINIs in my area, so it's not like they'd be starving for business. So don't keep a full stock of parts. Keep common ones. How much could it cost to keep a case of oil filters and a few gallons of oil to do yearly maintenance or simple repairs that any capable mechanic could do with their eyes closed.

Sure, MINI wants to have a certain degree of exclusivity, but to put owners through torture is ludicrous.

And please don't tell me it just gives me a chance to motor more. If that were the case then put dealerships in the middle of nowhere, so the drive might be enjoyable.

Consider this thread a petition to correct this problem, and maybe NAM can forward it to someone at BMW when it fills up.
This has some appeal but also has a number of problems which would keep MINI from changing their stand.

Number one is the issue of exclusivity, and MINI has pushed this policy more and more since day one. They do not want MINIs being sold or serviced out of BMW dealers and they want existing dealers to further seperate sales and service from BMW until they are 100% exclusive.

Number two is training... BMW techs don't have the training to work on MINIs. Sure they can change the oil and so some basic maintenance, but there is only so much they can do. It would be a lot of work to set up BMW dealers able to service MINIs only for them to be able to do oil changes and simple stuff, and I can't see BMW-only dealers paying to train their techs to do more advanced work on MINIs.

Number three is the huge negative response that BMW/MINI would get from the MINI dealer network. They've been told for years that MINIs can only be sold and serviced at MINI dealers. To let BMW dealers start doing service, even if only the most basic stuff, is going to hurt MINI dealers and they'll put up a big fight since they've all made major financial investments to have the rights to work on MINIs.

I know this is not the stuff that those of you living far from your dealer want to hear, but these are the facts.

What can be done about it? MINI currently has just over 80 dealers (82?) and they have plans over the next 5 years to expand that number by 10-20 extra dealers, from what I've heard. I've also heard that most of the new dealers will be in areas that currently don't have MINI dealers, not additional dealers in areas that already have MINI dealers. This should make things easier for many of you, depending on where they end up building them.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:55 PM
  #24  
Rastven's Avatar
Rastven
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
From: South Orange, NJ
Originally Posted by jascooper
I hope MINI is reading these boards and will do something about the total disconnect with dealer locations.

I live near Allentown, PA which is a big town for car dealers and has a large BMW dealership. Doylestown also has a large BMW dealership.

But I have to drive 60 miles to get to my closest dealer, and I'm sure that's not nearly as bad as some people. Yet a mere 20 miles from Mini of the Mainline is another MINI dealer, Otto's. If you live on Long Island, NY there are three dealers, and two of them are 20 miles apart. But if you live in the upstate NY, you can count on a 200 mile drive to your nearest dealer.

What's wrong with this picture?

And since MINI is under BMW's umbrella, how hard would it be to put a tech, parts supply, or service dept for MINI's in a BMW dealer?

I see lot's of MINIs in my area, so it's not like they'd be starving for business. So don't keep a full stock of parts. Keep common ones. How much could it cost to keep a case of oil filters and a few gallons of oil to do yearly maintenance or simple repairs that any capable mechanic could do with their eyes closed.

Sure, MINI wants to have a certain degree of exclusivity, but to put owners through torture is ludicrous.

And please don't tell me it just gives me a chance to motor more. If that were the case then put dealerships in the middle of nowhere, so the drive might be enjoyable.

Consider this thread a petition to correct this problem, and maybe NAM can forward it to someone at BMW when it fills up.
Dealership placement is an issue of 1- Owners wanted to buy in and 2- MINI USA's desire to serve a market. If the BMW dealers in your area don't want to put up the money then MINI USA isn't in the business of finding a business partner, acquiring land, building facilities etc, etc.

We have done the "Why can't we get service at a BMW dealer" thing before and personally I want MINI trained Techs only rather than BMW/MINI techs. Enough goes wrong in repairs sometimes when the guys are MINI specialists to make me think that having the average BMW tech work on a MINI is a recipe for disaster.

I can get to my dealer in NJ in about 20 minutes and if on Long Island I can get to most of them in about the same time.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 02:58 PM
  #25  
Chuck W.'s Avatar
Chuck W.
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 188
Likes: 1
From: Agoura Hills (Los Angeles) CA
4 miles.... I am lucky.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:59 PM.