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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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I would love to see mazda, porsche, lotus exc in f1
Hell, I was hoping all the F1 boys would switch over to LMS/ALMS. There goes my hopes for a return of the classic Ferrari/Porsche prototype sports car battles.
 

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Hey, it could still happen. Mosley is digging his heels in again and talking again about FOTA backing out of the agreement and leaving anyway (I assume because he's planning to **** them off by not rolling over). Of course FOTA's threat is to start a rival F1-ish series rather than all heading off in different directions.....
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper
Hell, I was hoping all the F1 boys would switch over to LMS/ALMS. There goes my hopes for a return of the classic Ferrari/Porsche prototype sports car battles.
id like to see that too. well not them switching over but id like to see ferrari/porsche reallly throwing down
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Porsche would never come back to F1. They've done it, failed and are now committed to sports car racing series.

As for the caps. I think it's going to be bad for F1. As previously said, if they cant be clever and not spend a ton of cash, perhaps they need to go back to GP2 or someting.

Basically, in the past F1 have employed the smartest and most clever engineers to find loopholes in the technical regulations. Fear not. Now they're going to find the smartest and most clever accountants to find loopholes in the financial regulations. The reason I think this is bad for F1 is because, so often, when a team comes out with a new interpretation of a rule, specifically aerodynamic, you can see it. You can see how it's different from the competition. And you can speculate how the air moves around it and why the car goes faster afterwards. That's exciting. That's F1!

Now, teams are going to get clever with their financials. We don't see the difference, except for that they're able to gain on their rivals, or pull away from them. That's not exciting, it's not F1, it's the New York Stock Exchange.....yaaaawwwwwnnn. LOL, what's Matchett going to do in RPM (Racing Per Matchett)? Go through the teams checkbook ledger?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by benjam83
Porsche would never come back to F1. They've done it, failed and are now committed to sports car racing series.

I think they wanted to concentrate on 911-based racing, at which they've been quite successful with both factory and private teams.

I agree that the money cap will be bad, and I think it will backfire. Like you say, benjam, it'll be an accounting race. It will also stifle development of everything related to F1, and that alone will make F1 a series of yawners. I've personally basically snoozed through this season.

The jury's not out on a breakaway series, though:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/270620...ey-threat.html

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/260620...ssibility.html

Hey, do we get votes as ticket buyers and television watchers?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Mosley
"To have an FIA president under the influence of vehicle manufacturers would put at jeopardy all the excellent work our organisations and your clubs do in promoting better safety and environmental outcomes in the vehicle fleet," he warned.
"If nothing else, this attempt to tell FIA members who they should or should not elect demonstrates precisely why the FIA needs a strong president who is experienced and knowledgeable about motor sport, in particular Formula One, as well as general motoring matters."
But it's ok for him to determine who becomes president?

If the FIA is supposed to be a democratic organization, why do the teams have no say in the people that are supposed to govern them?
 

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Hey, do we get votes as ticket buyers and television watchers?
Exactly what I've been wondering. I just read that Mosley claims he's now under pressure from all around the world to stay on and fight the evil FOTA. I'll even take an address or email address so I can write someone and express my opinion.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Has anyone gotten this to work?

http://www.yasmarinacircuit.com/experience/
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by STLMINI
Has anyone gotten this to work?

http://www.yasmarinacircuit.com/experience/
Yep. Didn't know about it until you posted the link but I just tried it and it's working for me.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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The bottom half loaded.

The top half got to 98% and quit / I got bored waiting.

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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C'mon, end the suspense. What is it? Keys to Max's jail cell?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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It's an online racing game, Abu Dhabi, keyboard controls.
 
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I had an email tonight asking what I'd ask dear ol' Bernie, if I had the chance. It took me to this link:

http://www.sportinginsights.com/f1ra...racing0936.htm

Worth a shot to see if it will work for you, too.

What did I ask? You have to ask???
 
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Thanks for that Deb, it did work for me.

Here's a little news -- dropping the tire compound gap:

Bridgestone Scraps 2009 Gap Policy
 
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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In that same Bridgestone link I found this:

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...rraris-sights/
 
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Saw that, decided to post something that looks more like it will actually happen.

Don't get me wrong, I figure Vettel moving to Ferrari is about as likely as Alonso moving to Ferrari, but it's all the usual mid-season speculation at this point. The real laugh as far as I'm concerned is the idea of both moving to Ferrari. There's no team on the grid with a greater penchant for driver heirarchy, and I can't see Fred taking a chance on ending up playing #2.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
In that same Bridgestone link I found this:

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...rraris-sights/
The Red Bull guy asks why Vettel would want to switch to Ferrari, when Red Bull's in front this year. I asked the same question last year (only half jokingly) as to why he'd want to switch to Red Bull when Torro Rosso was doing so much better.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Still, there has to be something to the rumor. I think Alonso in a #2 slot would be a disaster, but who will replace Kimi? And who would want the Ferrari team right now?

The whole thing's a mess. Things were a lot simpler when Michael reigned, don't you think?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Bernie's been speaking his mind again....unfortunately....

Hitler Remarks Touch off Fire Storm
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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O. M. G. Is he nuts? Sort of like defending Mussolini by saying that he made the trains run on time (which he didn't).

He's certifiable.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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I would hope that this would provide the FIA with enough reason to get rid of him and his FOM. But I doubt it....they're French and have no spines.
 
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I would LOVE to see FOM go but that wouldn't happen without a substantial change of philosophy re what F1 is all about. At this point, Bernie's (FOM's) money grubbing ways are perfectly in line with the elitist "F1 is for the rich" theory.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by benjam83
I would hope that this would provide the FIA with enough reason to get rid of him and his FOM. But I doubt it....they're French and have no spines.
If they couldn't get rid of Mad Max, the Leather ****, there probably isn't much hope with Bernie.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Well, on f1-live.com, there's a story about how the talks to bring back Hockenheim have been suspended as a result of Bernie's interview. Then there's another story where he's saying, "It's a big misunderstanding..." and "I've got a lot of Jewish friends..."

LOL, what a clown. I'm rarely at a loss for words....but.........sigh. He's ridiculous.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Then there's another story where he's saying, "It's a big misunderstanding..." and "I've got a lot of Jewish friends..."
I'm having deja vu all over again.

I remember a similar apparent "big misunderstanding" a while back regarding comments Bernie made about Lewis Hamilton and he then felt compelled to say something like "I've got a lot of black friends..." on camera during one of Peter Windsor's on-the-grid, pre-race ambush interviews.
 
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