2009 Formula 1 discussion
Hell, I was hoping all the F1 boys would switch over to LMS/ALMS. There goes my hopes for a return of the classic Ferrari/Porsche prototype sports car battles.
Last edited by RaceTripper; Jun 26, 2009 at 05:58 PM.
Hey, it could still happen. Mosley is digging his heels in again and talking again about FOTA backing out of the agreement and leaving anyway (I assume because he's planning to **** them off by not rolling over). Of course FOTA's threat is to start a rival F1-ish series rather than all heading off in different directions.....
id like to see that too. well not them switching over but id like to see ferrari/porsche reallly throwing down
Porsche would never come back to F1. They've done it, failed and are now committed to sports car racing series.
As for the caps. I think it's going to be bad for F1. As previously said, if they cant be clever and not spend a ton of cash, perhaps they need to go back to GP2 or someting.
Basically, in the past F1 have employed the smartest and most clever engineers to find loopholes in the technical regulations. Fear not. Now they're going to find the smartest and most clever accountants to find loopholes in the financial regulations. The reason I think this is bad for F1 is because, so often, when a team comes out with a new interpretation of a rule, specifically aerodynamic, you can see it. You can see how it's different from the competition. And you can speculate how the air moves around it and why the car goes faster afterwards. That's exciting. That's F1!
Now, teams are going to get clever with their financials. We don't see the difference, except for that they're able to gain on their rivals, or pull away from them. That's not exciting, it's not F1, it's the New York Stock Exchange.....yaaaawwwwwnnn. LOL, what's Matchett going to do in RPM (Racing Per Matchett)? Go through the teams checkbook ledger?
As for the caps. I think it's going to be bad for F1. As previously said, if they cant be clever and not spend a ton of cash, perhaps they need to go back to GP2 or someting.
Basically, in the past F1 have employed the smartest and most clever engineers to find loopholes in the technical regulations. Fear not. Now they're going to find the smartest and most clever accountants to find loopholes in the financial regulations. The reason I think this is bad for F1 is because, so often, when a team comes out with a new interpretation of a rule, specifically aerodynamic, you can see it. You can see how it's different from the competition. And you can speculate how the air moves around it and why the car goes faster afterwards. That's exciting. That's F1!
Now, teams are going to get clever with their financials. We don't see the difference, except for that they're able to gain on their rivals, or pull away from them. That's not exciting, it's not F1, it's the New York Stock Exchange.....yaaaawwwwwnnn. LOL, what's Matchett going to do in RPM (Racing Per Matchett)? Go through the teams checkbook ledger?
I think they wanted to concentrate on 911-based racing, at which they've been quite successful with both factory and private teams.
I agree that the money cap will be bad, and I think it will backfire. Like you say, benjam, it'll be an accounting race. It will also stifle development of everything related to F1, and that alone will make F1 a series of yawners. I've personally basically snoozed through this season.
The jury's not out on a breakaway series, though:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/270620...ey-threat.html
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/260620...ssibility.html
Hey, do we get votes as ticket buyers and television watchers?
Originally Posted by Max Mosley
"To have an FIA president under the influence of vehicle manufacturers would put at jeopardy all the excellent work our organisations and your clubs do in promoting better safety and environmental outcomes in the vehicle fleet," he warned.
"If nothing else, this attempt to tell FIA members who they should or should not elect demonstrates precisely why the FIA needs a strong president who is experienced and knowledgeable about motor sport, in particular Formula One, as well as general motoring matters."
"If nothing else, this attempt to tell FIA members who they should or should not elect demonstrates precisely why the FIA needs a strong president who is experienced and knowledgeable about motor sport, in particular Formula One, as well as general motoring matters."
If the FIA is supposed to be a democratic organization, why do the teams have no say in the people that are supposed to govern them?
Last edited by benjam83; Jun 27, 2009 at 07:49 PM.
Exactly what I've been wondering. I just read that Mosley claims he's now under pressure from all around the world to stay on and fight the evil FOTA. I'll even take an address or email address so I can write someone and express my opinion.
I had an email tonight asking what I'd ask dear ol' Bernie, if I had the chance. It took me to this link:
http://www.sportinginsights.com/f1ra...racing0936.htm
Worth a shot to see if it will work for you, too.
What did I ask? You have to ask???
http://www.sportinginsights.com/f1ra...racing0936.htm
Worth a shot to see if it will work for you, too.
What did I ask? You have to ask???
Thanks for that Deb, it did work for me.
Here's a little news -- dropping the tire compound gap:
Bridgestone Scraps 2009 Gap Policy
Here's a little news -- dropping the tire compound gap:
Bridgestone Scraps 2009 Gap Policy
Saw that, decided to post something that looks more like it will actually happen.
Don't get me wrong, I figure Vettel moving to Ferrari is about as likely as Alonso moving to Ferrari, but it's all the usual mid-season speculation at this point. The real laugh as far as I'm concerned is the idea of both moving to Ferrari. There's no team on the grid with a greater penchant for driver heirarchy, and I can't see Fred taking a chance on ending up playing #2.
Don't get me wrong, I figure Vettel moving to Ferrari is about as likely as Alonso moving to Ferrari, but it's all the usual mid-season speculation at this point. The real laugh as far as I'm concerned is the idea of both moving to Ferrari. There's no team on the grid with a greater penchant for driver heirarchy, and I can't see Fred taking a chance on ending up playing #2.
Still, there has to be something to the rumor. I think Alonso in a #2 slot would be a disaster, but who will replace Kimi? And who would want the Ferrari team right now?
The whole thing's a mess. Things were a lot simpler when Michael reigned, don't you think?
The whole thing's a mess. Things were a lot simpler when Michael reigned, don't you think?
I would LOVE to see FOM go but that wouldn't happen without a substantial change of philosophy re what F1 is all about. At this point, Bernie's (FOM's) money grubbing ways are perfectly in line with the elitist "F1 is for the rich" theory.
If they couldn't get rid of Mad Max, the Leather ****, there probably isn't much hope with Bernie.
Well, on f1-live.com, there's a story about how the talks to bring back Hockenheim have been suspended as a result of Bernie's interview. Then there's another story where he's saying, "It's a big misunderstanding..." and "I've got a lot of Jewish friends..."
LOL, what a clown. I'm rarely at a loss for words....but.........sigh. He's ridiculous.
LOL, what a clown. I'm rarely at a loss for words....but.........sigh. He's ridiculous.
I'm having deja vu all over again.I remember a similar apparent "big misunderstanding" a while back regarding comments Bernie made about Lewis Hamilton and he then felt compelled to say something like "I've got a lot of black friends..." on camera during one of Peter Windsor's on-the-grid, pre-race ambush interviews.






