2008 Formula 1 Discussion
There have been times times in F1 history, when the relationship breaks down between driver and team, and suddenly a driver is mysteriously not doing well.
Alonso at McLaren (my opinion)
Speed at TR
Mansell at Ferrari
...just to name two off the top of my head without checking my books.
Alonso at McLaren (my opinion)
Speed at TR
Mansell at Ferrari
...just to name two off the top of my head without checking my books.
Sorry, went back to page one and didn't see anything about how Dennis gave a Hamilton a strategic advantage over Alonso.
Like I asked, please elaborate.
Like I asked, please elaborate.
Wow, Alonso in second for the Spanish GP!
11Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari1:20.7011:20.7841:21.8131725
Fernando Alonso Renault1:21.3471:20.8041:21.9041832
Felipe Massa Ferrari1:21.5281:20.5841:22.0581644
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber1:21.4231:20.5971:22.06513522
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes1:21.3661:20.8251:22.09614623
Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes1:21.4301:20.8171:22.23115710
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault1:21.4941:20.9841:22.42919811
Jarno Trulli Toyota1:21.1581:20.9071:22.5291993
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber1:21.4661:20.8151:22.54220106
Nelsinho Piquet Renault1:21.4091:20.8941:22.699181117
Rubens Barrichello Honda1:21.5481:21.04912128
Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota1:21.6901:21.117151316
Jenson Button Honda1:21.7571:21.211121412
Timo Glock Toyota1:21.4271:21.23016157
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota1:21.4721:21.349151614
Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari1:21.5401:21.72415179
David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault1:21.81061815
Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari1:22.108101921
Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari1:22.516112020
Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari1:23.22482119
Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda1:23.31892218
Takuma SatoSuper Aguri-Honda1:23.496
11Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari1:20.7011:20.7841:21.8131725
Fernando Alonso Renault1:21.3471:20.8041:21.9041832
Felipe Massa Ferrari1:21.5281:20.5841:22.0581644
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber1:21.4231:20.5971:22.06513522
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes1:21.3661:20.8251:22.09614623
Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes1:21.4301:20.8171:22.23115710
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault1:21.4941:20.9841:22.42919811
Jarno Trulli Toyota1:21.1581:20.9071:22.5291993
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber1:21.4661:20.8151:22.54220106
Nelsinho Piquet Renault1:21.4091:20.8941:22.699181117
Rubens Barrichello Honda1:21.5481:21.04912128
Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota1:21.6901:21.117151316
Jenson Button Honda1:21.7571:21.211121412
Timo Glock Toyota1:21.4271:21.23016157
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota1:21.4721:21.349151614
Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari1:21.5401:21.72415179
David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault1:21.81061815
Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari1:22.108101921
Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari1:22.516112020
Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari1:23.22482119
Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda1:23.31892218
Takuma SatoSuper Aguri-Honda1:23.496
Last edited by MINIdave; Apr 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM.
I know this is better suited for the Single's thread but it works here, too. Look what Seabass gets to go home to (he beats the Schu, IMO):
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Hello, Mrs. Bourdais!
http://87.117.195.32:5001/gallery/pe...ersonal_31.asp
Hello, Mrs. Bourdais!
Spoiler Alert!
Kimi gets the hat trick - pole, fastest lap and the race win - well done Kimi!
Alonso ran well till he blew up. Good performance from Renault, they're going better every race....
McLaren seems to have peaked last year, they're still capable of points in every race, but I think Ferrari have the edge on the championship - yet again! Scary moment for Heikki when he lost a front tire, but it seems he's Ok, just bumps and bruises.
Kimi gets the hat trick - pole, fastest lap and the race win - well done Kimi!
Alonso ran well till he blew up. Good performance from Renault, they're going better every race....
McLaren seems to have peaked last year, they're still capable of points in every race, but I think Ferrari have the edge on the championship - yet again! Scary moment for Heikki when he lost a front tire, but it seems he's Ok, just bumps and bruises.
Good race!
It's early, but it looks like Kimi may get his 2nd WDC this year.
Renault looks incredible compared to the beginning of the season. Fred wasn't as light on fuel as every one speculated, as he pitted just three laps before Massa. Renault really has made some staggering progress. I noticed that the SPEED gang was saying some of the things I had been saying for a bit: McLaren may missing Fred's development talents.
I'm so glad Heikki is alight. That was a very nasty crash.
Too bad Bob could only manage 4th, I'd love to see him on the podium more, and even win a couple races.
It's early, but it looks like Kimi may get his 2nd WDC this year.
Renault looks incredible compared to the beginning of the season. Fred wasn't as light on fuel as every one speculated, as he pitted just three laps before Massa. Renault really has made some staggering progress. I noticed that the SPEED gang was saying some of the things I had been saying for a bit: McLaren may missing Fred's development talents.
I'm so glad Heikki is alight. That was a very nasty crash.
Too bad Bob could only manage 4th, I'd love to see him on the podium more, and even win a couple races.
Last edited by Gromit801; Apr 27, 2008 at 04:37 PM.
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Too bad Fred's motor went boomski before he was done. I would love to see a podium for him. Better yet, in his home country.
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Too bad Fred's motor went boomski before he was done. I would love to see a podium for him. Better yet, in his home country.
You all must have been watching a different race. I just saw an unchallenged Ferrari 1-2, with a scary Renault crash in the middle of it. Oh, and Honda seems to be using the Trix rabbit as aerodynamic inspiration!
The NASCAR channel had itself set up for a nice race to the finish, but then half the field wrecked and denied Montoya a chance for a first oval win.
The NASCAR channel had itself set up for a nice race to the finish, but then half the field wrecked and denied Montoya a chance for a first oval win.
I'm just jaded by F1. I expect the races to be boring so I don't notice if they aren't boring unless something really notable happens.
I was happy when Kimi beat Alonso for pole, and when Alonso's car blew up. I don't have anyone really to root for these days (well, no one likely to win), so I root against Alonso instead!
Sorry, can't do it. I used to pull for Kimi but now that he drives for the great, red cheating monster I can't do it anymore.
I read somewhere that since Mosley may be on his way out there are some team principals, etc, thinking they might be able to get the engine freeze rule thrown out soon. On the other hand, given the concern expressed by technical directors about all the new development required to comply with the other '09 rule changes, throwing full engine development in the mix might just be enough to make some of their giant brains explode.
Did I hear this right? I was listening to an interview with Hamlton post Spain and I thought he said he knew he could get around Alonso once he had passed Kubica. If so, I can't believe people aren't jumping all over that as continued fall-out from next year.
The front of the grid is nothing but cheaters!
BMW is second in the standings and does not cheat. Root for them.
And I still pull for Kovalainen and Hamilton even though they don't seem to have it this year.
I'm happy - good race. Kimi's cool, Filipe got me some fantasy points, good to see Lewis on the podium again (more points for me). Scared for Heikki for a while, but he's ok (and bf didn't get his points), love to see Alonso blow up (again, no points for bf). Disappointed in Heidfeld's performance lately, same with Rosberg.
But it was a good race to watch - hope it wasn't Super Aguri's last.
But it was a good race to watch - hope it wasn't Super Aguri's last.
I'm concerned about the Super Best Friends. I know there's a clause that states a minimum number of cars must be in the race. If that number isn't available, they will have teams field a third car.
Would ALL teams have that 3rd car option? It would play hob with the WCC.
I was looking through my 1996 Autocourse (Damon Hill WDC), and of all the teams listed in there, only four are still in existence today with the same name. Most are gone completely.
Would ALL teams have that 3rd car option? It would play hob with the WCC.
I was looking through my 1996 Autocourse (Damon Hill WDC), and of all the teams listed in there, only four are still in existence today with the same name. Most are gone completely.
Last edited by Gromit801; Apr 29, 2008 at 10:56 AM.



