2013 JCW Exhaust Tone - Pops/Gurgles
#51
I decided to go ahead and have mine removed on my 2013. There is some improvement in the pops and burbles and I like it better. Not a huge improvement, but perhaps that will change as I get more miles on it - I am almost at 2000 and maybe its my imagination but it seems like they are getting more pronounced and frequent. Others have said that over time the sound gets even better.
Definately better than stock for me. I don't have any drone and it is slightly louder, but not overbearing at all in my opinion. In fact I am hoping it continues to gain more P&B!!!
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#53
There is only one resonator and it is not very big, as you can see below.
I decided to go ahead and have mine removed on my 2013. There is some improvement in the pops and burbles and I like it better. Not a huge improvement, but perhaps that will change as I get more miles on it - I am almost at 2000 and maybe its my imagination but it seems like they are getting more pronounced and frequent. Others have said that over time the sound gets even better.
Definately better than stock for me. I don't have any drone and it is slightly louder, but not overbearing at all in my opinion. In fact I am hoping it continues to gain more P&B!!!
I decided to go ahead and have mine removed on my 2013. There is some improvement in the pops and burbles and I like it better. Not a huge improvement, but perhaps that will change as I get more miles on it - I am almost at 2000 and maybe its my imagination but it seems like they are getting more pronounced and frequent. Others have said that over time the sound gets even better.
Definately better than stock for me. I don't have any drone and it is slightly louder, but not overbearing at all in my opinion. In fact I am hoping it continues to gain more P&B!!!
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#55
yeah... unfortunately, I don't get much P&Bs on my 2013 JCW either...
i get some... nothing to get me really excited.
reading this thread got me thinking that I haven't really had long enough drives so far to get my exhaust really hot... maybe thats why.
I did take it to get my reso delete but the dude said it wouldn't make much of a difference its a straight reso anyway and its a waste of money.
But i'm willing to give it a try... since i love my JCW sound but its just not loud enough.
i get some... nothing to get me really excited.
reading this thread got me thinking that I haven't really had long enough drives so far to get my exhaust really hot... maybe thats why.
I did take it to get my reso delete but the dude said it wouldn't make much of a difference its a straight reso anyway and its a waste of money.
But i'm willing to give it a try... since i love my JCW sound but its just not loud enough.
#58
#59
It def isn't a waste to have the resonator removed. I've had mine off for 2 years now and I would never go back to the original set up. I barely have a commute, 2.5 miles each way, and I can get the P&B's if the car has warmed up before I leave the house, so I don't think a long commute has anything to do with it. I tend to hear more aggressive P&B's when I take my foot off the gas slower, instead of quick shifting and quick release. Granted, I'm 2010, but if other 2013 JCW's hear the P&B then I feel like everyone should be hearing it.
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#61
yeah... unfortunately, I don't get much P&Bs on my 2013 JCW either...
i get some... nothing to get me really excited.
reading this thread got me thinking that I haven't really had long enough drives so far to get my exhaust really hot... maybe thats why.
I did take it to get my reso delete but the dude said it wouldn't make much of a difference its a straight reso anyway and its a waste of money.
But i'm willing to give it a try... since i love my JCW sound but its just not loud enough.
i get some... nothing to get me really excited.
reading this thread got me thinking that I haven't really had long enough drives so far to get my exhaust really hot... maybe thats why.
I did take it to get my reso delete but the dude said it wouldn't make much of a difference its a straight reso anyway and its a waste of money.
But i'm willing to give it a try... since i love my JCW sound but its just not loud enough.
Or you can put a water hose in the exhaust every time you wash your car. The packing will wear out faster thus creating a louder exhaust.
#63
#64
As I have said before, removing the resonator is an awesome and cheap mod. I have yet to find an aftermarket exhaust for the MINI that does not drone. All the manufacturers claim drone free, but put about 3k miles on it and it will drone like crazy.
Brownisland, it will get better with time. The P&B will increase significantly with more miles.
Our resonators are "straight through", BUT they create turbulence with all the little holes on the inside. I have done this to both of the MINIs I have owned and it has been the best exhaust sound yet.
As for the top end loss, this is a tiny bit true. I fixed it by installing a simple K&N panel filter. The stock filter is SUPER restrictive (Take it out and try and blow air through it.... It is hard...). I regained all my top end back. Exhaust and intake mods work hand and hand with one another. I do not recommend a cold air intake. They are not effective in our cars due to the location of the air box. I have ran air intake numbers on both my DDM CAI and with the stock box with a K&N panel filter. The stock setup ran lower temps under load AND had much faster rebound after driving hard.
Also, there are no plug and play tunes for the N18 cars yet. I am not removing my ECU and shipping it off to a tuner for a 40hp gain and $1200+ (AKA, a bench tune). Not worth it.
Ok, rant over....
Brownisland, it will get better with time. The P&B will increase significantly with more miles.
Our resonators are "straight through", BUT they create turbulence with all the little holes on the inside. I have done this to both of the MINIs I have owned and it has been the best exhaust sound yet.
As for the top end loss, this is a tiny bit true. I fixed it by installing a simple K&N panel filter. The stock filter is SUPER restrictive (Take it out and try and blow air through it.... It is hard...). I regained all my top end back. Exhaust and intake mods work hand and hand with one another. I do not recommend a cold air intake. They are not effective in our cars due to the location of the air box. I have ran air intake numbers on both my DDM CAI and with the stock box with a K&N panel filter. The stock setup ran lower temps under load AND had much faster rebound after driving hard.
Also, there are no plug and play tunes for the N18 cars yet. I am not removing my ECU and shipping it off to a tuner for a 40hp gain and $1200+ (AKA, a bench tune). Not worth it.
Ok, rant over....
#65
2013 fJCW has a 2nd cat also. I got the resonator and 2nd cat removed. Zero drone but pops and gurgles like no other! Definitely turns heads in my town.
Removing 2nd cat shouldn't have any effect on performance right? If anything, improve?
Anyone else running with the 2nd cat and res removed? How do you like it?
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Removing 2nd cat shouldn't have any effect on performance right? If anything, improve?
Anyone else running with the 2nd cat and res removed? How do you like it?
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#66
2013 fJCW has a 2nd cat also. I got the resonator and 2nd cat removed. Zero drone but pops and gurgles like no other! Definitely turns heads in my town. Removing 2nd cat shouldn't have any effect on performance right? If anything, improve? Anyone else running with the 2nd cat and res removed? How do you like it? Sent from cellular device.
I've removed the res, but never considered 2nd cat.
#67
#68
I wouldn't say insane unfortunately. And it's really only between 3-4 rpms. Otherwise my car sounds basically normal :/
#69
I would bet that removing your 2nd cat, it would greatly increase the smiles for sure. You can always put it back if it's too loud.
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#70
How many miles do you have on your fJCW? I just got my jcw a few weeks ago with a lil under 15k miles. Even with the stock exhaust, just letting off the accelerator above 2k rpm, it would still pop, just muffled. I would bet that removing your 2nd cat, it would greatly increase the smiles for sure. You can always put it back if it's too loud. Sent from cellular device.
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#75
i've no resonator, and the first cat is removed. also an alta intake and borla catback
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