F55/F56 Test Drove a 2018 MCS and a 2017 MCS with JCW Tune Kit
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Test Drove a 2018 MCS and a 2017 MCS with JCW Tune Kit
I have to say I like the 2018 and the little changes from the 2017. For one the transmission feels more connected. In other words on the 2017 when you're at a stop it seems to "disconnect", you release the brake and re-engages. I don't mean the engine auto-stop either, this one thing I hated about my 2015, I think it was meant to smooth out your idle while stopped. I also like how when you're in Sport mode (now moved up to a switch by the Engine Start Switch) the engine RPMs are normal, no longer does is hold the RPMs to some crazy high points before shifting. The gas pedal and steering still get more responsive and stiffer. Then there's the keyless entry with no slot to put your key fob in, this is more modern and in like with other cars. The Mini Connected screen is super clear and crisp. The one question I have about the 2017 MCS with a JCW tuning kit is, is that how they come from factory as JCW? You have a little remote you press to activate the JCW performance package? I didn't like the kit, it isn't seamless. I would want the performance to always be there and not require me to press a button to activate it. I really like the 2018s and look forward to the "more British" Minis coming in 2019, might just come back to Mini again!
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I have to say I like the 2018 and the little changes from the 2017. For one the transmission feels more connected. In other words on the 2017 when you're at a stop it seems to "disconnect", you release the brake and re-engages. I don't mean the engine auto-stop either, this one thing I hated about my 2015, I think it was meant to smooth out your idle while stopped. I also like how when you're in Sport mode (now moved up to a switch by the Engine Start Switch) the engine RPMs are normal, no longer does is hold the RPMs to some crazy high points before shifting. The gas pedal and steering still get more responsive and stiffer. Then there's the keyless entry with no slot to put your key fob in, this is more modern and in like with other cars. The Mini Connected screen is super clear and crisp. The one question I have about the 2017 MCS with a JCW tuning kit is, is that how they come from factory as JCW? You have a little remote you press to activate the JCW performance package? I didn't like the kit, it isn't seamless. I would want the performance to always be there and not require me to press a button to activate it. I really like the 2018s and look forward to the "more British" Minis coming in 2019, might just come back to Mini again!
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The JCW tune can be ordered and installed by your dealer or when the car is off-loaded at the POE (mirror caps, decals and other items are added after the arrives from the factory).
BT exhaust control is nice if you want to run the car more quietly. Having the option at your finger tips is handy IMO. Again, if you want it open all the time, follow the direction in the post above.
Not sure if anything is really different mechanically between the 2017 and the 2018 models. Nothing I've read indicates any differences other than options and some cosmetics. Could be your just perceiving differences between two examples of what are essentially the same car.
BT exhaust control is nice if you want to run the car more quietly. Having the option at your finger tips is handy IMO. Again, if you want it open all the time, follow the direction in the post above.
Not sure if anything is really different mechanically between the 2017 and the 2018 models. Nothing I've read indicates any differences other than options and some cosmetics. Could be your just perceiving differences between two examples of what are essentially the same car.
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Not sure if anything is really different mechanically between the 2017 and the 2018 models. Nothing I've read indicates any differences other than options and some cosmetics. Could be your just perceiving differences between two examples of what are essentially the same car.
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I thought he was comparing the 17 to the 18 based on the below:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benibiker
I have to say I like the 2018 and the little changes from the 2017. For one the transmission feels more connected. In other words on the 2017 when you're at a stop it seems to "disconnect", you release the brake and re-engages.
#9
2014 + are all F56 models. Since he posted in the F series section assumed he was driving an "F". Not sure what Mini he is driving currently.
I thought he was comparing the 17 to the 18 based on the below:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benibiker
I have to say I like the 2018 and the little changes from the 2017. For one the transmission feels more connected. In other words on the 2017 when you're at a stop it seems to "disconnect", you release the brake and re-engages.
I thought he was comparing the 17 to the 18 based on the below:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benibiker
I have to say I like the 2018 and the little changes from the 2017. For one the transmission feels more connected. In other words on the 2017 when you're at a stop it seems to "disconnect", you release the brake and re-engages.
Last edited by Benibiker; 01-17-2018 at 10:52 AM.
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What you may actually be experiencing is the affect the JCW tune is having on the 2017 vs. the stock 2018.
My car changed dramatically after adding the tune. I'd wager if the 2018 had a tune, they would drive and feel the same.
Of course, I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time).
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Interesting. I know under hard acceleration "sport" is supposed to hold each gear close to red line. My F56 in sport mode changes the shift points so it holds each gear longer, but not to excess under normal conditions.
What you may actually be experiencing is the affect the JCW tune is having on the 2017 vs. the stock 2018.
My car changed dramatically after adding the tune. I'd wager if the 2018 had a tune, they would drive and feel the same.
Of course, I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time).
What you may actually be experiencing is the affect the JCW tune is having on the 2017 vs. the stock 2018.
My car changed dramatically after adding the tune. I'd wager if the 2018 had a tune, they would drive and feel the same.
Of course, I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time).
#12
The 2018 was just a standard MCS. You know they changed the location of the Sport switch from around the shifter to up by the Engine Start switch. The gas gauge is different too, not little segments but now a linear light, very nice. I like the sport mode now that it doesn't hold each gear longer, it just shifts normally but with the sport gas pedal response and tighter steering. The sport switch can also go into economy mode; you have economy, normal and sport.
I noticed zero difference in sport mode between the cars.
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I own a 15 MCS. I took it in yesterday for an oil change and was given an 18 MCS. I did notice differences in how much more zippy the car felt than mine. Granted mine is heavier, I have 17" wheels vs the 16"and mine has the comfort access and storage package that the loaner did not. I really liked how solid it felt. The main change in the cabin that bothered me was the use of plastic trim on the A pillars. It's no longer the same material as the headliner. Kinda cheap looking if you ask me.
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I have a 2016 S automatic and recently had a 2018 Clubman S automatic loaner. Sport mode acted no different on the 2018 vs my 2016. Idle rpm's still increased around 150rpm's and shift points were the same. Both cars with sport mode if you give it very light throttle shift lower in the rpm range, give it heavy throttle and it will shift higher.
I noticed zero difference in sport mode between the cars.
I noticed zero difference in sport mode between the cars.
Interesting because I sure did.
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