F55/F56 Every 2014 Mini had swirled paint
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http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/...s-writeup.html
That stuff (opti-coat) is not snake oil. It's actually a 1-2mil thick coating over top of the existing clear coat. It's labor intensive to apply.
Could be buffer trails or poor washing and drying technique and gear. I can't imagine a detailer getting paid enough by a dealer to polish cars. I was at my local dealer and there were a few F56 mini's with holograms. A poor gray one had them in the middle of the bonnet.
Your poor car. Usually easy to correct. I had 5 door dings fixed by PDR and one section was left with holograms. It was easily corrected with a light polish, black LC foam pad and 4 passes with my Griots polisher.
If you wash and dry your car with terry cloth towels or old t-shirts, you definitely have swirls and/or spider-webs.
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Took delivery of mine and I'm happy to report there were no swirls present that I could see! Some hologramming (or maybe just a smudge) in one section, rather minor, I ran a microfiber drying cloth once over it and it was gone. I had a few water spots on the roof, must not have been dried perfectly, but that was it. It rain this morning and those disappeared.
This is how my paint looked right from the dealer:
This is how my paint looked right from the dealer:
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You know, there may be one other possibility--they may come from the MINI distribution center that way. My dealer is new, and while still under construction the manager mentioned that as soon as they got their building occupancy permit from the city, they'd order already-prepped cars to get them on the lot as soon as possible. I don't know how they're "packaged" for the truck, but apparently they're ready to sell as soon as they're off-loaded.
#36
Hi
I'm in the UK and had the same issue with my new Mini Cooper S. It was delivered to the dealer full of swirls on every panel (including damage to the trim).
The swirls were so bad, that my detailer was unable to correct them due to the very low paint thickness levels on the car. He was worried about burning through the clear coat.
It's taken nearly two months and a lengthy dispute with BMW Mini for them to agree to our rejection of the car. They claim that only two panels were polished in the factory, which cannot be correct.
Here's some pictures from my detailer of the problems - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9688855&type=3
I'm in the UK and had the same issue with my new Mini Cooper S. It was delivered to the dealer full of swirls on every panel (including damage to the trim).
The swirls were so bad, that my detailer was unable to correct them due to the very low paint thickness levels on the car. He was worried about burning through the clear coat.
It's taken nearly two months and a lengthy dispute with BMW Mini for them to agree to our rejection of the car. They claim that only two panels were polished in the factory, which cannot be correct.
Here's some pictures from my detailer of the problems - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9688855&type=3
#38
Hi
I'm in the UK and had the same issue with my new Mini Cooper S. It was delivered to the dealer full of swirls on every panel (including damage to the trim).
The swirls were so bad, that my detailer was unable to correct them due to the very low paint thickness levels on the car. He was worried about burning through the clear coat.
It's taken nearly two months and a lengthy dispute with BMW Mini for them to agree to our rejection of the car. They claim that only two panels were polished in the factory, which cannot be correct.
Here's some pictures from my detailer of the problems - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9688855&type=3
I'm in the UK and had the same issue with my new Mini Cooper S. It was delivered to the dealer full of swirls on every panel (including damage to the trim).
The swirls were so bad, that my detailer was unable to correct them due to the very low paint thickness levels on the car. He was worried about burning through the clear coat.
It's taken nearly two months and a lengthy dispute with BMW Mini for them to agree to our rejection of the car. They claim that only two panels were polished in the factory, which cannot be correct.
Here's some pictures from my detailer of the problems - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9688855&type=3
So what did they ended up doing for you?
Last edited by wtwien; 07-26-2014 at 05:03 AM.
#39
Ordering a new Mini Cooper S - but it will take the best part of 3-4 months, so it will be 6 months after the original one was delivered.
No mention of compensation.
The bigger worry was the low paint readings. Most new cars are around 120 microns (my BMW was this on average). I think the lowest on the Mini was 64.
#40
True, but these were definitely done by a rotary polisher at some point before the car was delivered to the dealer. There were clear instructions for the dealer to not even remove the factory wrapping.
Ordering a new Mini Cooper S - but it will take the best part of 3-4 months, so it will be 6 months after the original one was delivered.
No mention of compensation.
The bigger worry was the low paint readings. Most new cars are around 120 microns (my BMW was this on average). I think the lowest on the Mini was 64.
Ordering a new Mini Cooper S - but it will take the best part of 3-4 months, so it will be 6 months after the original one was delivered.
No mention of compensation.
The bigger worry was the low paint readings. Most new cars are around 120 microns (my BMW was this on average). I think the lowest on the Mini was 64.
#41
True, but these were definitely done by a rotary polisher at some point before the car was delivered to the dealer. There were clear instructions for the dealer to not even remove the factory wrapping.
Ordering a new Mini Cooper S - but it will take the best part of 3-4 months, so it will be 6 months after the original one was delivered.
No mention of compensation.
The bigger worry was the low paint readings. Most new cars are around 120 microns (my BMW was this on average). I think the lowest on the Mini was 64.
Ordering a new Mini Cooper S - but it will take the best part of 3-4 months, so it will be 6 months after the original one was delivered.
No mention of compensation.
The bigger worry was the low paint readings. Most new cars are around 120 microns (my BMW was this on average). I think the lowest on the Mini was 64.
I certainly hope all cars don't have such thin paint. That is bothersome. I know they were changing over the paint section in the factory before the 2015 production year, I wonder if this corrected that problem?
#42
I'm actually surprised that Mini is getting you a new car. What do they do with this one? Assuming they are letting you keep the current car until the new one arrives, then you have a new car, and probably a 2015 instead of a 2014, that is a pretty good deal from my perspective.
The problem for BMW Mini was the swirl marks are a defect, caused by human error. In order for them to be properly removed, the paint levels on most panels would be taken below their acceptable level.
I would never accept having to have panels resprayed on a brand new car before it's been handed over to me. You will never get a factory finish from a bodyshop and I've had a couple of horror stories from their approved bodyshops in the past.
According to here http://www.pfonline.com/articles/wat...lina-bmw-plant the average paint thickness should be 120 microns.
#43
My dealership did a wonderful job applying the custom swirl marks to my brand new 2013 Mini prior to me picking it up. I've washed the car several times (by hand) hoping to remove the horrible wax job, but unfortunately its still there. I guess I'll have to either find some de-waxer or buff it out myself. Can I just buff out whats already on the car, or do I need to add more product to the finish before buffing? I certainly don't want to add a layer of wax ON TOP of the swirl marks and effectively "trap them" underneath.
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#47
I guess you complain/apply pressure to the people you deal with directly. If enough people make a big enough stink about paint swirls, it will get someone's attention who has some real authority.
#49
For now, but the swirls are still there. I can't believe a manufacturer can do this to their own products. Happened to me twice, both times the result of the dealers service department washing (or scratching) my car after service.
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