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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by billie_morini
1. This statement caught my eye: "thus, its the most expensive pulley you can possibly make"

3. OK. One last thing that bugs me. With all the promising information, there are no details about which titanium is used. Examples: 6AL/4V, 6AL/2SN/4ZR/2MO, etc. (Hey, if i missed, then point it out, please)

I spoke with them and he mentioned that was the best quality, but I will get the exact details when, I call back.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Passat774
I have taken the plung, mine is on the way! Scott you are more than welcome to come over and help or even go for a drive !
I've never replaced a flywheel or crank pulley on a MINI, but if you're talking about the supercharger pulley, I have the puller and belt tensioner tool, so if you were serious about wanting some help installing a supercharger pulley, shoot me a PM.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Scott,

Thanks I will send you a PM.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Passat,
Be sure to tell us how the install goes.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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im more concerned with the quality... let us know what you think about the item in question.

in golf it took me a couple years longer to get into the idea of titanium drivers...
now the idea of a titanium pulley just doesnt seem noticeable after hearing what others have to say in terms of physics and logic.

but to each their own. i look forward to the pics of your new pulley passat...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Passat774
I have taken the plung, mine is on the way! Scott you are more than welcome to come over and help or even go for a drive !

OMG! Are you serious! You really bought this thing?????

Wow, and I was just posting that in my opinion the cost of a DFIC could be money better spent on other mods!

To each his own.....
 
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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I will get into greater detail when I get the pulley...

I looked at and said, is this the best quality product I can buy for my car? Followed up with the greatest customer service, then why not !
 
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by prime-drk-
...would it hurt so much to spell/grammar check your posts and memo's before you go to the forums with them?
Seriously!!

For many people the first impression they will get of your company is a bunch of people that can't spell or use proper punctuation. Then you are trying to sell these same people a simple supercharger pulley for $700?!? I know I wouldn't give $700 to a company that made at least 11 spelling errors in a post that is trying to justify why I should give them $700 for a pulley.

 
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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I think the pulley is expensive...

but my spelling sucks and I really hope that most read for the content, not the delivery....

But as someone "spelling challenged" I guess I just have sympathy for those that can't spell or type well.....

So, if someone wrote "Fre muny! Gust axs!" you wouldn't ask?

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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"Fre muny! Gust axs!"

Too funny!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Carol@PaloUberMini.com
the titanium pulley was a concept developed by uber in cornwall, and developed by sir patrick with his munich automotive eingeneer.
Ohhh ya...I know those guys.

Originally Posted by Carol@PaloUberMini.com
...flexible yet rigid material...
ox·y·mo·ron–noun
a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”

Originally Posted by Carol@PaloUberMini.com
...we use the same grade that is used in the shuttle and sattelites in orbit.
We drive MINIs, not rocket ships. (Well...some of 'em are close). If I need a pulley that helps me stay in orbit, I'll call. Promise.

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...even internal distribution of weight. ie, when you cut open a tree limb, you see the dark aareas of the grain
Wood grain is caused by how wood cell fibers grow...not internal weight distribution.

Originally Posted by Carol@PaloUberMini.com
the titanium is over 200 times stronger than steel, and over 100 times stronger than aluminum.
...how does this have any bearing at all on performance?

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its the most expensive pulley you can possibly make, but it is also perfect in all regards.
Business 101. Understand your target market. 90% of this community does not care about having "the most expensive" performance item. Form follows function 'round these parts.

Originally Posted by Carol@PaloUberMini.com
...produce the highest quality and the most effective components available without regard to how much it costs us to make.
Never has there been a more obvious statement.

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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It's not all about price. If, you can not justify the expensive do not buy it. Most of you guys feel there is enough "value" in the pulleys you already have. IMO, there is value in what they are selling, it is something that no one else is making.

And I fail to understand how any of the spelling mistakes will effect the performance of the pulley ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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The spelling doesnt get me, the poor use of capital letters and punctuation gets me.
Do comma splices get you?

I think discussions of grammar have no place on an internet forum. Let's look at people's different takes on grammar as different dialects and be finished (not done) with it.

The second page of this thread was extremely educational.

mb
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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I've learned something today...

lots of people have too much time on thier hands. Why take the time to just post a rip, when all you have to do is not buy the product if you don't like it. That's the largest, loudest market statment that you can make! All the rest is just pisssing in the wind.....

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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All the rest is just pisssing in the wind.....

Do you know what happens 1/2 the time when you **** into the wind? It comes right back at you :-)
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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That's if you choose your direction randomly...

. I choose my direction more carefully and only rarely wet my leg!

But it reminds me of one of my favorite lines from a Clint movie.....

"Don't ***** on my back and tell me it's raining!"

From "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Passat774
It's not all about price. If, you can not justify the expensive do not buy it. Most of you guys feel there is enough "value" in the pulleys you already have. IMO, there is value in what they are selling, it is something that no one else is making.

And I fail to understand how any of the spelling mistakes will effect the performance of the pulley ?
I agree with the first statement. If we want to be stuck with the same performance mods we can keep pushing the same items, or we can have vendors continue to make new ones for us. PaloUberMini cares about MINI performance, even though this is a pulley that is at a price beyond reason for most owners. I applaud them for doing so, whether it's a good choice for us or not, it's still more choice. And that's a good thing.

Yeah, spelling mistakes don't directly affect the pulley performance, but I would care anyways. People who pay attention to the details, people who take pride in their work, will avoid even the small mistakes.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Wunder if thei went two the same enginideering and engwish scwhool. Leafs me brefflous anticapating the quality of this product...
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Ti is Cool I LOVE it

Its light
Its strong
It resists corrosion
Its grey

Its WAY high dough!

I have family in a non-auto industries who purchase (wholesale) and work with Ti & Ti tubing. It is difficult to machine (slower speeds/greater wear on tools etc.). The stuff is also INSANE expensive: 3' section of 2-3/4" O/D (aerospace certified) tube stock can be $500 or more.

As cool as this idea might be its up there with the M7 Ti-ceramic brakes...

Most of us would need to win the state loto to justify such a purchase. And unlike the brakes the differences in pulley material offers little significant functional difference.... certainly not enough to claim superior function.

If you like Paulo Uber and can afford/justify such luxury don't worry about us... feel good about treating yourself to a pulley. Take pic's and report back on install and function.


As for English/grammar...


Since when do most companies selling us stuff design or engineer it? C'mon as fun as some may find it to target these folks the marketing end of things is often out of touch with the production end. Hell... MINI is classic for this very problem, but we're all driving them. ...Not to defend the extreme product offering or price... I just see this as akin to shooting fish in a rain barrel... Where's the challenge?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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speculating vs. speccin..

--Well said Passat774. I applaud you for stepping up and testing it for yourself. When all is said and done you'll be able to judge for yourself whether it's a quality product or not.

As for the spelling mistakes I'd just say that their marketing dept or PR rep needs some training. But if they are like most mod shops that person is probably the shop office admin and was rushing to write that post.

I wish someone had a shop with one of those bench engine testers. That way we could have a pulley challenge comparing each pulley against the same engine measuring performance accurately.



Originally Posted by Passat774
It's not all about price. If, you can not justify the expensive do not buy it. Most of you guys feel there is enough "value" in the pulleys you already have. IMO, there is value in what they are selling, it is something that no one else is making.

And I fail to understand how any of the spelling mistakes will effect the performance of the pulley ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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What's the point?

Originally Posted by pyratio
I wish someone had a shop with one of those bench engine testers. That way we could have a pulley challenge comparing each pulley against the same engine measuring performance accurately.
The benefit of the weight difference vs steel are so small that they will be swamped by run to run variations. The real benefit (if any) to this would be found in belt wear and the like over a very long period of time.....

But the energy difference to spin this pulley over another one is a freshman physics home work problem! And guess what, it's soo far to the wrong side of the decimal point compared to the energy required to move the whole car that it's not worth even pondering!

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
but my spelling sucks and I really hope that most read for the content, not the delivery....

But as someone "spelling challenged" I guess I just have sympathy for those that can't spell or type well.....

So, if someone wrote "Fre muny! Gust axs!" you wouldn't ask?

Matt
It's one thing when you are a 'normal' person posting your opinions and/or thoughts but when you are a vendor making announcements and wanting/hoping people will buy your $700 pulley or $550 vinyl stripes then you should be proofreading. If I wasn't already familiar with Palo Uber and I read any of their poorly punctuated and horribly misspelled announcements or posts then I wouldn't give them a second thought. As sad as it may be, appearance is everything and in the interet world most of the time the first impression you give is your words.

And as far as your "Fre muny! Gust axs!" comment... I would have to say I probably wouldn't ask. Maybe this is an elitist statement or stereotyping but with spelling that bad (and not knowing you personally) I would assume (yeah, I know what they say ) that you were uneducated and your offer of "fre muny" was not on the up and up.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Sounds Uber good. I'll buy two for even greater performance return.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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This must be a joke.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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This must be a joke.
I'm waiting for the titainium body panel replacements $20k, or more aerodynamic lightweight 5" exhaust tips, $1k
 
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