Drivetrain Throttle Body testing
I discussed this problem with Randy at the time. The workmanship wasn't the issue, turbulent flow around the butterfly/throttle plate was the problem. I had similar problem 20 years ago with manual throttle body for Rabbit/Golf by Weber. at small throttle openings, it would pull air, and would get a "cavitation" for lack of precise term behind throttle plate. It would vibrate, and the idle would hunt all over the place, from 800-1800. Once it was shut, it was fine, but small openings confused the airflow meter and it would hunt. I think the dual servos on the electronic TB would start a see-saw like response when the flow would eddy like this, thus recreating the same idle probs I had with the Weber TB.
>>I discussed this problem with Randy at the time. The workmanship wasn't the issue, turbulent flow around the butterfly/throttle plate was the problem. I had similar problem 20 years ago with manual throttle body for Rabbit/Golf by Weber. at small throttle openings, it would pull air, and would get a "cavitation" for lack of precise term behind throttle plate. It would vibrate, and the idle would hunt all over the place, from 800-1800. Once it was shut, it was fine, but small openings confused the airflow meter and it would hunt. I think the dual servos on the electronic TB would start a see-saw like response when the flow would eddy like this, thus recreating the same idle probs I had with the Weber TB.
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I think you're onto something! When I talked to Randy he told me that he had to work out, using trig (which I've forgotten, or maybe I've forgotten whether I ever learned it) the exact angles at which to machine the butterfly so it would close properly and not cause this swirl. At 63mm, the angles were not optimal.
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I think you're onto something! When I talked to Randy he told me that he had to work out, using trig (which I've forgotten, or maybe I've forgotten whether I ever learned it) the exact angles at which to machine the butterfly so it would close properly and not cause this swirl. At 63mm, the angles were not optimal.
i held to the stock angle for the closed butterfly at 61 mm; it seems to me if you change the closed angle, the servo might get confused. i will machine one at 63mm to see if it gets hinky using the same geometry as stock and 61mm. By the way, no trig was needed; a much harder problem was extracting the pin retaining the throttle shaft.
Workmanship is very important if you want the bfly to close tight and still open freely.
Workmanship is very important if you want the bfly to close tight and still open freely.
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