Piper. UK You would need to do a search to find this cam. The person that has this in his car is british & had the work done there.

duration: in 250 ex 248 - lift: in 360 ex 350 - full lift at 112

The lift for the Shrick or the Ultrik as well as full lift have not been posted.

The Cosworth #s?

Thats all I can tell you.

 

The Schrick cam is a "sport" cam. It slots in between a stock and race cam. It is very mild in performance terms.

 

Yes, and for information all you have to do is call.

 

Miniflop...a cam is not going to do much without a head. I don't think any cam will give you more than 5-10 hp with such a restrictive head.

 

Restrictive head? A cam will make good power in a SBC w/ 1.94 camel back, a 40 year old head. The Mini cams that are available are not high output just high $$$$$. Cosworth might be an exception, haven't seen the cam card.

 

hopefully there cam is better than there cylinder head...

 

OK, I'll ask. What's wrong with their cylinder head?

I have done lots of searching and it sounds like a great head with a really flat torque curve.

Longboard

 

Please elaborate.
Jim

 

I am inclined to agree with this.... DMH says the Schrick is a "sport" not "race" cam which is hard to argue with as it still IDLES and is very "streetable." the Schrick cam will move the TQ curve up somewhat but in my car added TQ overall.

As far as the Cosworth head..... the fastest Mini that I have driven without the induction modified (also runs very smooth and is leading the local autoX series) is Jim Smith's aka "hornguys" he has the Cosworth head and the car is very strong.....

this is off topic but until someone does a dyno comparison on the same car same day etc..... who knows?

you really have to try the components with "your car" in the configuration you want to end up with or drive a car that is done like what you are shooting for,,,, without a NASCAR like budget for testing, R&D etc., it is really tough to make conclusive comparisons based on spec sheets and the like....

back to Ultrick/Schrick..... if MM will tell you the spec of the metal and it is the same with the same "grind" cheaper it is hard not to take a look..... I still am very conseravtive with things that go "in" and not "on" the engine

 

"back to Ultrick/Schrick..... if MM will tell you the spec of the metal and it is the same with the same "grind" cheaper it is hard not to take a look..... I still am very conseravtive with things that go "in" and not "on" the engine"

Most of us are, but the gas I put in my car is the biggest risk, #1 over anything else that is bolted on or internal.

Did you ask this question when you got your cam?
If it were another vender, say M7?
Have you had bad dealings with MM?
How many people have ever heard of Shrick? Or Ultrik?
1% of cam buyers in the US?
How many sucessful cam builders are going to give you a roll out & tell you what their core mix is?

Untill someone has an Ultrik or a MM with a true roll out, with a full lift spec, spring presure, install height, nose presure & coil bind no comparison can be made.

 

Cams go right along with the heads and headers I have brought to the Mini market and thus I have the specs for a few cams, including the stock and Schrick, as measured from a cam profiling machine accurate to .0002". So I know what some Mini cams are doing. This is important information if one is looking for a performance edge and is willing to invest some resources.

 

flow bench numbers by someone other than me...

http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...PROD&ProdID=64

 

The gas that you put in your car is the biggest risk you run... that is if you are car is tunned to the absolute limit. a bad tank of gas could cause detination and engine failure if you are tuned to some pretty scary a/fs or running a lot of timing or if you are running a tc set up with a lot of boost. Other than that... most probably wouldn't even notice a bad tank of gas.

From what i have come to know of you, you seem like you were or are pretty big in the chevy small block arena. People who have been tunning or modifing german cars are usually very familiar with schrick. Schrick has been around for quite some time and offer hundreds if not THOUSANDS of cams. They also offer intake manifolds, springs, retainers etc... for the european market. They are infact quite a large outfit. Most people on these boards havent had exposure to them because this is there first european car or this is there first european car that they have modified.

 

The gas situation here can be quite dangerous to highly tuned cars. I hate to say it but the 10% E has improved things especialy for winter gas, still need the dry gas. I'm a little old for street fighting but I still love it - you need good gas. Last Feb ( pre 10% ) I got some bad gas & the car went into limp mode on the highway. It recovered quickly but this was on the Pen Turnpike with heavy traffic. Not good.

Schrick has been around a long time. The first time I saw 1 was over 20 years ago. I'm sure most people never heard of Racer Brown either but they were 1 of the first to produce a roller cam. The point is that all these other cam builders should not need to defend their products, nor should the vendor that is marketing them. If there is some science that says stay away great.Lets hear it.

As you point out some of the people on this board have no exposer to Schrick or for that matter any of the products available. Sharing the knowledge is what this board is what it's all about. Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens....

Bottom line: IMHO I don't think it's fair to judge a product without having it in hand.

There use to be a saying, "if you want to go fast for low bucks, go Chevy". If you want to really want to go fast go Porsche, trust me on this 1 I had 4 of them.

 

Are these questions addressed to me....?

 

my bet is that they were directed towards me

 

Neither.

This thread is about Ultrik vs Schrick????????

The Ultrik & The maybe Ultrik - MM cam's quality & the integrety of MM as a vendor were the inovation for the questions.

The questions are directed at this thread & are almost never asked by any consumer.

 

I talked with Crower last week, they will do a custom grind for a fair price.

I will probably go that route, as I have yet to find a cam agressive enough for my taste.

 

What is a fair price?
How will you control the ECU?
Will this be billet or reground?
What do you call aggressive?

Sorry for all of the questions but cams seem to be the topic of choice lately and everyone has their own ideas on them, so can we hear yours?

Bill

 

Fair price ~$400

The said since they dont offer the cam on their linup, they will only do a regrind. I'm not real happy about it, but if its what I have to do to get the cam I want, so be it.

I'm not worried about the ECU, ive been running a stock tune forever and havent had a problem yet. I still just cant justify the money spent on the ECU just yet.

My definition if agressive is something the in the reigon of a .500 lift 295 duration. i'm looking for more of a 1500-redline cam as the car is more of a drag car than anything.

 

Does anyone know if one or both of these cams (Ultrik / Schrick) are ground from a new billet or are they regrinds?

I have a hard time trusting a reground unit that's had any material added to it - in my youth I experienced an engine failure due to material wearing off a reground cam prematurely.

 

I can't wait to hear the results with a stock ECU!
One more question. Do you have a ported head?

 

I trust Crower, I wouldnt have a hard time putting a cam that was reground by them in my car.

Now, if it was a Comp or a Crane regrind, I would think twice....

Too bad Hughes is mopar specific.

 

I run a stock head.

If FBT can get away with running a stock one on a TC car, my big sc/nitrous car can take it for a while.


if i could aquire a stock head for less than the stupid prices ive seen for stock parts lately, i would do some minor port work and then take it to the machine shop for finish work and the biggest valves I can find.

 

Hmmmm...
I see no mention of a Mini-MANIA head anywhere on that page.
Jim