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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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DFIC install = speeding ticket

I finally picked up my DFIC from Peter and his wife on Friday.

What great people. Not only did they allow me to pick it up from their house, but they allowed my two sons (7&8), to play on their trampoline in the back yard. I also got some secrets about things coming in the near future.

The install took a little longer then it should of. First, I got some silicon intake horn boots to replace the stock boots. Getting the little boot one on was a *****. Then I had to polish the inter-cooler straps and the bolts. With the extra work it took about an hour fifteen for the whole thing.

I started it up and everything was great. Then I took it out for a little shake down. The first thing I noticed was how hard the car was pulling from a dead stop. I drove around stopping from light to light (about a 1/8 mile in so cal) just to make sure the feeling was real. Then I went out to an area thats wide open with very few cars to run threw the gears to red line. To my amazement, the higher the RPM, the harder the car pulled then before. I'm hooked.

Then I pulled up to a light I know very well. The road is in the foothills so the next light is about 1 mile away. I pushed it hard from the green light until I shifted into 5th. I won't say how fast I was going as not to get drilled by the "you should only do that on the track guys" but I was amazed at the speed shifting from 4th to 5th. Needless to say, I looked up around the long curve to see two local cops doing radar practice. By the time I slowed down, they got me doing 71 in a 55. I pulled over real fast and backed up to them. They were nice guys and we talked a bit. They let me come out and shot cars with the radar gun. I figured for the money and time I'm going to spend in traffic school I should get something out of it. Like I said, they were cool and said the safe speed was 65 so the ticket is 6 over. Not as bad as it could of been.

The end of this story is that the M7 DFIC definitely delivers as promised. I am a really happy guy and very glad to have Peter and his staff so close. I look forward to my next "Big Mod" In December from M7.

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P.S. No surf for a month. I spent three hours in the tattoo chair on sat. I have another three on the 21st.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
I finally picked up my DFIC from Peter and his wife on Friday.

What great people. Not only did they allow me to pick it up from their house, but they allowed my two sons (7&8), to play on their trampoline in the back yard. I also got some secrets about things coming in the near future.

The install took a little longer then it should of. First, I got some silicon intake horn boots to replace the stock boots. Getting the little boot one on was a *****. Then I had to polish the inter-cooler straps and the bolts. With the extra work it took about an hour fifteen for the whole thing.

I started it up and everything was great. Then I took it out for a little shake down. The first thing I noticed was how hard the car was pulling from a dead stop. I drove around stopping from light to light (about a 1/8 mile in so cal) just to make sure the feeling was real. Then I went out to an area thats wide open with very few cars to run threw the gears to red line. To my amazement, the higher the RPM, the harder the car pulled then before. I'm hooked.

Then I pulled up to a light I know very well. The road is in the foothills so the next light is about 1 mile away. I pushed it hard from the green light until I shifted into 5th. I won't say how fast I was going as not to get drilled by the "you should only do that on the track guys" but I was amazed at the speed shifting from 4th to 5th. Needless to say, I looked up around the long curve to see two local cops doing radar practice. By the time I slowed down, they got me doing 71 in a 55. I pulled over real fast and backed up to them. They were nice guys and we talked a bit. They let me come out and shot cars with the radar gun. I figured for the money and time I'm going to spend in traffic school I should get something out of it. Like I said, they were cool and said the safe speed was 65 so the ticket is 6 over. Not as bad as it could of been.

The end of this story is that the M7 DFIC definitely delivers as promised. I am a really happy guy and very glad to have Peter and his staff so close. I look forward to my next "Big Mod" In December from M7.

LongBoard

P.S. No surf for a month. I spent three hours in the tattoo chair on sat. I have another three on the 21st.
Would you say that you concluded your testing or do you have more in mind?

So can we assume that you and the cops give the DFIC a up?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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uh oh

I didn't realize the two were so closely interelated-hope I dont get one tomorrow morning!!
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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I carry my badge with me at all times, required to, and your story of just pulling over and talking with the officers encourages me as to the character of we Mini drivers.
Cops aren't bad guys/gals, just doing our duty to help keep some semblance of order on the streets and in the homes and businesses of our fair country.
The rest of our Mini drivers need to learn a lesson here - keep the excessive speed on tracks that are intended for that purpose. Not every Mini owner has had sufficient training to be able to handle a car at higher speeds.
Keep it safe and sane, and thanks for being a good guy.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Would you say that you concluded your testing or do you have more in mind?

So can we assume that you and the cops give the DFIC a up?
I have driven the car about 50 miles since my Friday afternoon run in. I Can say without a doubt, that the car pulls harder then ever. Sorry, no dyno #'s guy's.

But I can say that after 33,000 miles and the DFIC installed on my car, it sure pulls and feels Better.

The cop new I was going fast. He said they are trained to "know" the speed of an on coming car by sight? He claimed I was doing 90? I know I was doing faster.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
I have driven the car about 50 miles since my Friday afternoon run in. I Can say without a doubt, that the car pulls harder then ever. Sorry, no dyno #'s guy's.

But I can say that after 33,000 miles and the DFIC installed on my car, it sure pulls and feels Better.

The cop new I was going fast. He said they are trained to "know" the speed of an on coming car by sight? He claimed I was doing 90? I know I was doing faster.

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I am very glad that the DFIC is getting out there in numbers so I don't feel like the lone ranger.... it is one of my top 3 mods and a definite bang for the buck IMO good value .... (I know what it costs)
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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Thank you Bryan....

It was good to have you and your kids here at the Luxurious World Headquarters.

Your findings are spot on regarding the DFIC, we found the same incredible
gains with extra torque and subsequent elasticity of the power curve.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pberry51mini
I carry my badge with me at all times, required to, and your story of just pulling over and talking with the officers encourages me as to the character of we Mini drivers.
Cops aren't bad guys/gals, just doing our duty to help keep some semblance of order on the streets and in the homes and businesses of our fair country.
The rest of our Mini drivers need to learn a lesson here - keep the excessive speed on tracks that are intended for that purpose. Not every Mini owner has had sufficient training to be able to handle a car at higher speeds.
Keep it safe and sane, and thanks for being a good guy.
Thank you for the kind words. The officers that pulled me over just pointed at me as I got close. I was speeding and new I was what they wanted. They were very cool and after our little encounter they apologized for giving me the ticket. I apologized for given then a reason for giving me a ticket.

Really though, whenever you get pulled over remember what I tell my kids. Who's fault is it you got in trouble.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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I installed the DFIC last week and it is a definite improvement. I can feel the pull on the upper end!!!

It works great and looks COOL!
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Thank you Brian....

It was good to have you and your kids here at the Luxurious World Headquarters.

Your findings are spot on regarding the DFIC, we found the same incredible
gains with extra torque and subsequent elasticity of the power curve.

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What exactly are the gains? No one has shown them from any data source. When can we expect them?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
The cop new I was going fast. He said they are trained to "know" the speed of an on coming car by sight? He claimed I was doing 90? I know I was doing faster.

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Cops are trained to estimate speed prior to validation via laser, radar, pacing, or clocking over a verified distance, though estimating is not necessary. The more experience a traffic officer has the more exact those estimates can be. It may very well be that he made a lower estimate in the oft chance that you would have admitted to a higher speed. Only validated speeds will stand up in most courts. He could not have issued a citation based solely upon his estimate of your speed. Why do you think most traffic officers ask the drivers they stop if they know how fast they were traveling? Admissions of guilt are powerful things in court.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Thank you Brian....

It was good to have you and your kids here at the Luxurious World Headquarters.

Your findings are spot on regarding the DFIC, we found the same incredible
gains with extra torque and subsequent elasticity of the power curve.

peter
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Thank you!

You and your wife are great. You both are incredibly into the mini. What I like about you and the products M7 are making, is the attention to detail and how well manufactured and engineered your part are.

The DFIC is awesome.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pberry51mini
Cops are trained to estimate speed prior to validation via laser, radar, pacing, or clocking over a verified distance, though estimating is not necessary. The more experience a traffic officer has the more exact those estimates can be. It may very well be that he made a lower estimate in the oft chance that you would have admitted to a higher speed. Only validated speeds will stand up in most courts. He could not have issued a citation based solely upon his estimate of your speed. Why do you think most traffic officers ask the drivers they stop if they know how fast they were traveling? Admissions of guilt are powerful things in court.
When asked how fast do you think you were going? I replyed, Oh I don't know. He new I was speeding and I new I was speeding. But neither of felt good about what we had done.

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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Not related to DFIC...

...But similiar story with a m7 product. Just got done installing my Oil Catch Can (OCC) and hacking away at the intake manifold bracket. I took it around the block in my neighbor hood and was first at the light. Didn't see anyone around so when the light turned green I hit 7200 through 3rd then got on the brakes hard to come back to the proper speed. As my front end was diving I looked in the mirror to see flashing lights. I pulled over quickly and had my things out before he even came to the car. He asked if I knew how fast I was going and I honestly didnt, 55 . I don't think he did either but he said " 55, I was doing 65 and you were pulling away!" OOPS I just got a warning, "I understand that you have a fast car, but please keep speeds down off the track" No Problem! I wanted to ask him where he was sitting, but didn't want to push my luck. Don't bother asking why I thought anything would change by installing an OCC.

It seems that the DFIC really works!! I'll need a good intercooler once I get my head finished, DFIC is on the list of possibilities! -- Johan
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
Really though, whenever you get pulled over remember what I tell my kids. Who's fault is it you got in trouble.
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In this case, I would tell my son the truth it is Peter's fault from M7
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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At least, the speeding ticket was not that big... Only 6mph faster than the speed limit. And you got to test their laser radar lol
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Did you get to ask them if the laser jamming stuff works?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Did you get to ask them if the laser jamming stuff works?
I didn't ask that but I did find out something interesting. On the gun there is a heads up display in the gun sight. When you lock onto a car you can watch their speed drop in the display as they panic knowing their screwed. That part was fun to watch.

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Did you get to ask them if the laser jamming stuff works?

The sharks with frickin' lasers keep dying. Once we get past that all should be well.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Laser Radar?

Originally Posted by DarkMiniCooperS
At least, the speeding ticket was not that big... Only 6mph faster than the speed limit. And you got to test their laser radar lol
No such thing as Laser/Radar they are two different devices.

The Laser guns are actually quite touchy and time consuming to set up and use, because of that they are rarely used here on the West Coast. I have heard that there are some jurisdictions on the East coast that use them almost exclusively.

Radar guns are the devices of choice but Police personnel must be trained and pass an exam to operate correctly for the purpose of writing citations.

There are currently no devices able to jam any radar guns that are used here on the West coast. Regardless of what advertisers say they are just blowing smoke. Jammers are pipe dreams for teenagers. If you bought one then you might be also the owner of some swamp land in Florida, they are equally as valuable.

We've stopped cars with "jammers" and they have been quite suprised that we were still able to determine their exact speed with the use of the x-band radar gun. Suckers born every minute.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pberry51mini
Cops aren't bad guys/gals, just doing our duty to help keep some semblance of order on the streets and in the homes and businesses of our fair country.
Overgeneralization..
 
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Originally Posted by pberry51mini
We've stopped cars with "jammers" and they have been quite suprised that we were still able to determine their exact speed with the use of the x-band radar gun. Suckers born every minute.
I always figured that if those things worked, they'd be illigal the next day...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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I always figured that if those things worked, they'd be illigal the next day...
Exactly right.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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If the "jammers" don't work, does that go for "detectors" as well? I heard the detectors respond to the same thing that operates automatic doors. So if you drive by a supermarket or something with an automatic door the detector will go crazy.

Are the detectors not detecting anything at all?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Hey guys....

Love to come in here answer questions regarding the DFIC but this laser/Radar/Jammer discussion sucks

I'm sure there's forum for electronics and such.


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