Drivetrain Best Short Shifter?
I have the B&M installed on my car. Got it the same time as the pulley and the intake. I like it quite alot. Best thing is it replaced the rubber bushings with some solid aluminum ones which make the shifts have a nice solid feel.
I have the Alta, and other than 1 issue which was replaced by Alta, and Tate's ineptness at replacing that one (which they also installed), I'm fairly pleased.
I've driven Krut's car a time or two since then, and the stock shifter feels to me like a 'cane' or 'crutch' now because it sits up so high.
You're welcome to take a seat in mine and give it a few shifts if you're interested in checking out the Alta before buying. A bonus for the Alta, is they make a stock **** adapter if you have a stock whalen or want to use your factory **** (they send you an alta one tho), and the stock Whalen will fit, or he will make an Alta threaded one for you. Dunno how interested you are in Whalens, but I was, and was part of the reason I choose Alta.
I've driven Krut's car a time or two since then, and the stock shifter feels to me like a 'cane' or 'crutch' now because it sits up so high.
You're welcome to take a seat in mine and give it a few shifts if you're interested in checking out the Alta before buying. A bonus for the Alta, is they make a stock **** adapter if you have a stock whalen or want to use your factory **** (they send you an alta one tho), and the stock Whalen will fit, or he will make an Alta threaded one for you. Dunno how interested you are in Whalens, but I was, and was part of the reason I choose Alta.
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Originally Posted by JustJAY
So, 2-B&M, 2-Alta.
I am confused

I am confused

B&M FTW
if you put an alta down to its lowest setting you have to leave off the bottom of the shifter box....which could get all kinds of funky from over time.
The B&M also comes with a new dust cover/thing that makes sure the bottom of the shifter shaft doesn't rub against the heatshields of the exhaust system. It also takes a stock **** without an adapter.
The throws are shortened but the height of the shaft is maintained. So you don't have to be reaching really low into the console for the ****.
The throws are shortened but the height of the shaft is maintained. So you don't have to be reaching really low into the console for the ****.
I am in the market for a short shift also... I want the stock shifter to remain. You want the height to be close to the wheel... I plan on modifying the bottom portion of the shifter to get the short throw. I am condsidering 2 units... The Helix which has about a 40% reduction in throw, and the Ultek which works the same way but they clain an ideal 20% reduction in throw.. Can anyone comment on these units... Thanks
Ok, I decided on the B&M because it does not reduce the length of the shifter, just the throw.
I just wanted the throws shorter, the length of the shifter didn't bother me. Thanks for the info
I just wanted the throws shorter, the length of the shifter didn't bother me. Thanks for the info
Originally Posted by JustJAY
Ok, I decided on the B&M because it does not reduce the length of the shifter, just the throw.
I just wanted the throws shorter, the length of the shifter didn't bother me. Thanks for the info 
I just wanted the throws shorter, the length of the shifter didn't bother me. Thanks for the info
Originally Posted by Edge
I guess I'm confused. The length of the shifter has a direct effect on the length of the throw. I see them as one and the same... the shorter the shaft, the shorter the throw. The only way I can think of to somewhat reduce the throw length is positive bolt stops (which the B&M may well have), but all the stops do really is prevent overshifting.
It's the same sort of way that those set-screw based short shift kits work. They make the bottom half longer thus making the top half movement shorter. The only difference between the B&M and the set-screw ones is you never have to worry about a set screw coming loose or the extension shifting around on the B&M as it's a solid shaft.
Originally Posted by HHFD633
does uuc make a mini short shifter. there bmw one with snick..snick sound is ver cool and smooth.
Originally Posted by mikem53
My son installed the UUC shifter in his M3... It is the finest feeling shifter I have ever driven.... It's so fine... great product... but pricey....
Try to call the manufacturer and find out what exactly changed in October 2004 that would keep their kit from working with earlier cars. The required modifications to make it work with your August 2004 car may be minor.
Scott
I don't think it is going to work. The shifter housing changed in those months, So I don't think it's going to work.




