Drivetrain Least favorite modifications
Least favorite modifications
If you had to do it all over again, which mod would you have NOT DONE? We have all seen the favorite mod list a zillion times - Yes the SC pulley is No. 1 - but what about those crappy ones that you feel were worthless or detrimental?
My least favorite one is the 62 mm throttle body. I have a MCS with basic performance mods (15% pulley, CAI, MTH, exhaust). The only thing I noticed after the TB was an increased flat spot at low RPMs.
Let's have some fun and list all those stinkers and help some new owners from making similar mistakes.
My least favorite one is the 62 mm throttle body. I have a MCS with basic performance mods (15% pulley, CAI, MTH, exhaust). The only thing I noticed after the TB was an increased flat spot at low RPMs.
Let's have some fun and list all those stinkers and help some new owners from making similar mistakes.
EBC "dimpled" AND slotted rotors. DUH!!! Now, I believe the slots alone would have been just right. I thought the dimples would look cool
. They don't hurt anything, but I don't think they help either, and it is just possible that they minimally detract from performance by reducing area. (still better than stock, but could have been better?)
. They don't hurt anything, but I don't think they help either, and it is just possible that they minimally detract from performance by reducing area. (still better than stock, but could have been better?)
Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
My least favorite one is the 62 mm throttle body. I have a MCS with basic performance mods (15% pulley, CAI, MTH, exhaust). The only thing I noticed after the TB was an increased flat spot at low RPMs.
Testify my brother!!

My MTH tuner upgrade on top of 15% pulley, 2% crank pulley, CAI, exhaust, seemed to be a placebo effect at best.
I regret installing my one-ball. The bypass pipe cost $125 and the muffler shop charged $35 to put it in. Should have spent some extra money and bought a Milltec.
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ive only done an hdi and the vacuum gain system. definately dont like the vgs, seemed like too much work and i didnt notice too much of a difference. putting the IC back on for the first time took almost 30 minutes.
Originally Posted by digi-mike
Testify my brother!!

My MTH tuner upgrade on top of 15% pulley, 2% crank pulley, CAI, exhaust, seemed to be a placebo effect at best.

My MTH tuner upgrade on top of 15% pulley, 2% crank pulley, CAI, exhaust, seemed to be a placebo effect at best.

worst mod i ever did? hm.... my HU, could've gotten the ipod interface for alot less!
reference MTH...
I had a AMD One-Click that I immediately felt the difference. Then I immediately felt the difference when the dealership changed my ECU without asking me. Then I immediately felt the difference when AMD stopped servicing their customers!
I had my crank pulley put in a couple of weeks before the MTH. Felt quicker response. But when the MTH went on. Ehh?!?
Maybe after I get my next dealer service, I'll get a couple of more mods then update my MTH.
Originally Posted by kyriian
really? i really felt a difference when i put it in.... revs quicker, and less bogged
I had my crank pulley put in a couple of weeks before the MTH. Felt quicker response. But when the MTH went on. Ehh?!?
Maybe after I get my next dealer service, I'll get a couple of more mods then update my MTH.
Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol
After having to get stitches in the back of my head three times, I seriously regret installing that ceiling fan. . .
1-Installing all the extra gauges...now I'm a paranoid wreck monitoring every changing conditions...sit in traffic...watch the AIT, water temp sky rocket...get on the gas, watch the EGT rise...when does it end? :impatient
2-VGS...like the way the Mini's throttle response until I noticed the pre-IC temp is off the chart
Not good...those of you with VGS and without an in/out IC temp gauge...pretend you didn't hear this
3-Large TB...Fantastic for the track where you're under WOT 99% of the time. Try and cruise at a steady 80mph and watch your EGT get up high enough to melt your exhaust system...AND dispair when you end up with 19mph...:impatient
4-Nitrous...Now that I know what the TC boys experience "all the time", I'm getting tempted...
5-Visiting NAM for the first time...If I hadn't, I would've just stayed with a new set of wheels/tire, painted the calipers and called it a day...imagine the boat I could've bought
2-VGS...like the way the Mini's throttle response until I noticed the pre-IC temp is off the chart
Not good...those of you with VGS and without an in/out IC temp gauge...pretend you didn't hear this
3-Large TB...Fantastic for the track where you're under WOT 99% of the time. Try and cruise at a steady 80mph and watch your EGT get up high enough to melt your exhaust system...AND dispair when you end up with 19mph...:impatient
4-Nitrous...Now that I know what the TC boys experience "all the time", I'm getting tempted...
5-Visiting NAM for the first time...If I hadn't, I would've just stayed with a new set of wheels/tire, painted the calipers and called it a day...imagine the boat I could've bought
Originally Posted by digi-mike
reference MTH...
I had a AMD One-Click that I immediately felt the difference. Then I immediately felt the difference when the dealership changed my ECU without asking me. Then I immediately felt the difference when AMD stopped servicing their customers!
I had my crank pulley put in a couple of weeks before the MTH. Felt quicker response. But when the MTH went on. Ehh?!?
Maybe after I get my next dealer service, I'll get a couple of more mods then update my MTH.
I had a AMD One-Click that I immediately felt the difference. Then I immediately felt the difference when the dealership changed my ECU without asking me. Then I immediately felt the difference when AMD stopped servicing their customers!
I had my crank pulley put in a couple of weeks before the MTH. Felt quicker response. But when the MTH went on. Ehh?!?
Maybe after I get my next dealer service, I'll get a couple of more mods then update my MTH.



well i had a old MTH map in the car... difference was clear across the entire rpm range, i never tried the tuner map yet..... hm... maybe i should save my money and keep my old MTH!
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
5-Visiting NAM for the first time...If I hadn't, I would've just stayed with a new set of wheels/tire, painted the calipers and called it a day...imagine the boat I could've bought

If I hadn't gotten involved with NAM, I'd never have caught the mod virus!
Originally Posted by MINIclo
If I hadn't gotten involved with NAM, I'd never have caught the mod virus!

I'm assuming we mean performance mods, given this forum...
And from there, for something to be my least favorite, it would need to not live-up to what I was expecting, or led to believe. TBs don't knock the socks-off for sure, but with the feedback shared by others, and even hp claims of 2-4, or 5, or a "few" one shouldn't expect much. My expectations were thus minimal (set properly), and accordingly, I don't feel let-down...
Likewise, plugs and wires are not pushed as pulley-esque, I felt nothing of note, and as an educated buyer, I have no beef as my expectations were not misguided...
For me, given the power claims of some ICs, this tops my list. It seems that a TB yields about the same power of larger ICs (from earlier testing), and at half the price. FWIW, I'm runnin' with a stock TB, so I'm no strong proponent of this mod per se...
To me, least favorite equates to not meeting reasonable expectations...
And from there, for something to be my least favorite, it would need to not live-up to what I was expecting, or led to believe. TBs don't knock the socks-off for sure, but with the feedback shared by others, and even hp claims of 2-4, or 5, or a "few" one shouldn't expect much. My expectations were thus minimal (set properly), and accordingly, I don't feel let-down...
Likewise, plugs and wires are not pushed as pulley-esque, I felt nothing of note, and as an educated buyer, I have no beef as my expectations were not misguided...
For me, given the power claims of some ICs, this tops my list. It seems that a TB yields about the same power of larger ICs (from earlier testing), and at half the price. FWIW, I'm runnin' with a stock TB, so I'm no strong proponent of this mod per se...
To me, least favorite equates to not meeting reasonable expectations...
Originally Posted by TonyB
I'm assuming we mean performance mods, given this forum...
And from there, for something to be my least favorite, it would need to not live-up to what I was expecting, or led to believe. TBs don't knock the socks-off for sure, but with the feedback shared by others, and even hp claims of 2-4, or 5, or a "few" one shouldn't expect much. My expectations were thus minimal (set properly), and accordingly, I don't feel let-down...
Likewise, plugs and wires are not pushed as pulley-esque, I felt nothing of note, and as an educated buyer, I have no beef as my expectations were not misguided...
For me, given the power claims of some ICs, this tops my list. It seems that a TB yields about the same power of larger ICs (from earlier testing), and at half the price. FWIW, I'm runnin' with a stock TB, so I'm no strong proponent of this mod per se...
To me, least favorite equates to not meeting reasonable expectations...
And from there, for something to be my least favorite, it would need to not live-up to what I was expecting, or led to believe. TBs don't knock the socks-off for sure, but with the feedback shared by others, and even hp claims of 2-4, or 5, or a "few" one shouldn't expect much. My expectations were thus minimal (set properly), and accordingly, I don't feel let-down...
Likewise, plugs and wires are not pushed as pulley-esque, I felt nothing of note, and as an educated buyer, I have no beef as my expectations were not misguided...
For me, given the power claims of some ICs, this tops my list. It seems that a TB yields about the same power of larger ICs (from earlier testing), and at half the price. FWIW, I'm runnin' with a stock TB, so I'm no strong proponent of this mod per se...
To me, least favorite equates to not meeting reasonable expectations...
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
2-VGS...like the way the Mini's throttle response until I noticed the pre-IC temp is off the chart
Not good...those of you with VGS and without an in/out IC temp gauge...pretend you didn't hear this
Not good...those of you with VGS and without an in/out IC temp gauge...pretend you didn't hear this
Originally Posted by JCampos
I would have said intercooler but I got my Alta for $250 






