Drivetrain Fireball Mini Cooper
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Originally Posted by bumble's angel
I think the different year model head lights are preventing him from getting to the 10s.
*pats self on back*
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Originally Posted by Loosemosse
My mini has 250 HP and it's stock... what a relief
Last edited by Loosemosse : Today at 09:21 PM. Reason: Why bother...
Last edited by Loosemosse : Today at 09:21 PM. Reason: Why bother...
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This thread is seriously bizarre. I saw the original post. Now, I see something completely different. And, your signature has completely changed. What the heck gives? Were you lying THAT blatantly?
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Originally Posted by Tuls
funny what became or your first post....shame really...it was a good question....
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Originally Posted by bumble's angel
Yes but I think with out FireBall Tim and his team of Crack mechanics here to answer or a chance to test drive the car we may never know the truth. I think we should get to take the car for a spin to see if we can find out if wheel spin is keeping him out of the 10s.
the 60 FT of the car was consistently 1.6 that's pretty darn good for a FWD...I think there is a 1.5 in it...but who knows...
the rest is just power...if you use an ET calculator with a the wieght of the drag car (2190) and the power it was run at. (320 WHP you get 10.99 ....now...a 11.2 is pretty good being that ET calculators only do #s and not reality...they are based on everything being perfect...
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Originally Posted by Tuls
well since Hubie and I are the "crack" mechanics who built the car...I would say...the 10s has nothing to do with wheel spin....just turning up the boost
the 60 FT of the car was consistently 1.6 that's pretty darn good for a FWD...I think there is a 1.5 in it...but who knows...
the rest is just power...if you use an ET calculator with a the wieght of the drag car (2190) and the power it was run at. (320 WHP you get 10.99 ....now...a 11.2 is pretty good being that ET calculators only do #s and not reality...they are based on everything being perfect...
the 60 FT of the car was consistently 1.6 that's pretty darn good for a FWD...I think there is a 1.5 in it...but who knows...
the rest is just power...if you use an ET calculator with a the wieght of the drag car (2190) and the power it was run at. (320 WHP you get 10.99 ....now...a 11.2 is pretty good being that ET calculators only do #s and not reality...they are based on everything being perfect...
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@500 HP he lost it
@320 WHP he did pretty good "I would have run it again"
Quick times w/ 320 WHP
C) the car was never run on the track @ 500 WHP. it was only run @ 320 WHP....
Mention todays hp with yester years run on tv n mags
Titled World's Fastest Cooper @500HP or @11.26 time w 320WHP
NOS mentioned was getting him to 320 WHP or is that part of current 500 HP
Just gets better
A MCS with 320 WHP weighing 2150 pounds, crossing at 11.26 @121+ mph, titled as the
Fastest Twinchargered MCS @25 psi (including SC?who knows) running NOS @500 HP with stock internals runing 11.26 @121+mph
Know thats a bullet proof motor!
or a 5 min engine!
front mount? depends on where your at
Motec tuning, control is control, now who and how good (makes since w/ fireball team)...tune....tune tune to 500HP..
@320 WHP he did pretty good "I would have run it again"
Originally Posted by Tuls
the explination is simple...
A) the car is 2150...
A) the car is 2150...
Originally Posted by tuls
C) the car was never run on the track @ 500 WHP. it was only run @ 320 WHP....
Mention todays hp with yester years run on tv n mags
Titled World's Fastest Cooper @500HP or @11.26 time w 320WHP
NOS mentioned was getting him to 320 WHP or is that part of current 500 HP
Just gets better
Originally Posted by tuls
So there you have it...
Fastest Twinchargered MCS @25 psi (including SC?who knows) running NOS @500 HP with stock internals runing 11.26 @121+mph
Know thats a bullet proof motor!
or a 5 min engine!
Originally Posted by tuls
the FIREBALLED! car has a front mount....and a motec for tuning, which both...helped to achive more power with less work....
Motec tuning, control is control, now who and how good (makes since w/ fireball team)...tune....tune tune to 500HP..
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Originally Posted by themosse
Mention todays hp with yester years run on tv n mags
Titled World's Fastest Cooper @500HP or @11.26 time w 320WHP
Titled World's Fastest Cooper @500HP or @11.26 time w 320WHP
Originally Posted by themosse
NOS mentioned was getting him to 320 WHP or is that part of current 500 HP
Originally Posted by themosse
(including SC?who knows)
Originally Posted by themosse
Know thats a bullet proof motor!
--->Loosemosse: I'd say Tuls cleared the air. He said what the car weighs, how much power it was running, and showed the calculation being pretty close. 320wHP @ 25psig is very plausible for a twincharged MCS. I'm satisfied with Tuls explanation, as it all adds up. The whole "500HP worlds fastest" is a marketing slogan, don't take it so literally.
Is there an additional point you want to make regarding your efforts on your MINI? I'd be interested to hear what you've worked on and the results.
Cheers,
Ryan
Is there an additional point you want to make regarding your efforts on your MINI? I'd be interested to hear what you've worked on and the results.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Originally Posted by Tuls
the NOS was used to achive 500...the car made 390 all boost.....but was run with 320 is all boost...
I agreed that 2150p 320 WHP gets that time.
I don't agreed that the NOS had nothing to do w/ the 320 WHP runing 25 between the turbo and the supercharger.
Originally Posted by tuls
twincharge denotes SC is there
Thats funny, I was refering to the SC producing PSI or is it just known that if some says twincharged @25 psi that it includes both the turbo and the supercharger or is an oversized pulley to 19% reduced pulley not considered in the PSI being used.
Originally Posted by tuls
trust me you have no idea...it's VERY stout...ohhhhh the things I have seen it take... ::shutters::
I think, I may, on a clear day have an idea
I am no longer arguing the numbers 2150 lb MCS TC w/ 320 WHP running 11.26 w/ nos (at some level) considering upgrades
As for a MCS TC w/ 500 and those specs (upgrades w/o a 100+ shot of NOS)
NOT!
So be it.... In this case I feel better and it's uuum posssiible.
Geez, RYEs trying to boot my post...
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
--->The whole "500HP worlds fastest" is a marketing slogan, don't take it so literally
Cut me some slack, was just about to feel satisfied.
OK it's done, over, finished...Gone in 60 Seconds
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Originally Posted by Loosemosse
That part is settled... I don't know you... I assume you know his car, so
I agreed that 2150p 320 WHP gets that time.
I don't agreed that the NOS had nothing to do w/ the 320 WHP runing 25 between the turbo and the supercharger.
Thats funny, I was refering to the SC producing PSI or is it just known that if some says twincharged @25 psi that it includes both the turbo and the supercharger or is an oversized pulley to 19% reduced pulley not considered in the PSI being used.
I think, I may, on a clear day have an idea
I am no longer arguing the numbers 2150 lb MCS TC w/ 320 WHP running 11.26 w/ nos (at some level) considering upgrades
As for a MCS TC w/ 500 and those specs (upgrades w/o a 100+ shot of NOS)
NOT!
So be it.... In this case I feel better and it's uuum posssiible.
Geez, RYEs trying to boot my post...
I agreed that 2150p 320 WHP gets that time.
I don't agreed that the NOS had nothing to do w/ the 320 WHP runing 25 between the turbo and the supercharger.
Thats funny, I was refering to the SC producing PSI or is it just known that if some says twincharged @25 psi that it includes both the turbo and the supercharger or is an oversized pulley to 19% reduced pulley not considered in the PSI being used.I think, I may, on a clear day have an idea
I am no longer arguing the numbers 2150 lb MCS TC w/ 320 WHP running 11.26 w/ nos (at some level) considering upgrades
As for a MCS TC w/ 500 and those specs (upgrades w/o a 100+ shot of NOS)
NOT!
So be it.... In this case I feel better and it's uuum posssiible.
Geez, RYEs trying to boot my post...
Loosemoose...Please do not instult me be sugesting I would lie...
NO NOS WAS USED to achive 320 WHP....
I am currently make 340 WHP (28 lbs boost) and that is WITH OUT NOS...the kit is the same as the race car minus the front mount and the motec...
I didn't realize you were "arguing" anything....I thought you were genuanly trying to find out the truth...
you have it now...I'm sorry but, I will not argue...there's not thing to argue...I don't skew things, I don't lie.
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Originally Posted by Tuls
I didn't realize you were "arguing" anything....I thought you were genuanly trying to find out the truth...
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This was about the 500 HP now I know it's a claim and includes a nice shot NOS
Regardless, it's temporary...
You'll be seeing my car soon and then you'll undrstand were I'm coming from.
I'll shatter 500 HP w/ NOS
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Originally Posted by ingsoc
This thread is seriously bizarre. I saw the original post. Now, I see something completely different. And, your signature has completely changed. What the heck gives? Were you lying THAT blatantly?
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Originally Posted by Loosemosse
Regardless, it's temporary...
You'll be seeing my car soon and then you'll undrstand were I'm coming from.
I'll shatter 500 HP w/ NOS
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