Had anyone actually bought one of these kits yet?

 

pretty sure they are still working on the release of it

 

Yup, our first customer got it a week or so ago. It was installed and sort of "tuned" to 230WHP. But the installation shop didn't understand how to hook up the boost controller, and it was running 21PSI(couldn't lower it) with very very lean AFR. The customer was using the stock injectors and an AFC at the time.

He has our 550injectors and will be tuning it later this week so we will see how it goes. This customer is going to dyno it at our recommended stock Boost level of 16PSI(for stock EM), then will turn it up to 22psi(wich is our recommened Hydra boost level) and see how it goes. The customer is ready to install pistons if needed so he can run big HP. So some cool things to come!

In the next couple of weeks you will hopefully see some other customers posting their experiences with the kit.

 

can you please post some details of this kit???
can the kit be self installed? what is included exactly for the price?
the web site doesn't include a boost controller is this extra?

 

So... are there Hydras out in the wild?

 

Profpatpending,
The kit consists of everything needed to bolt the turbo to the car and allow it to run 16psi. The parts are, GT3071R, header, downpipe, oil lines, coolant lines, fittings, boost tubes, silicone intake hose, filter, air box, fresh air pipe, couplers and clamps, and nuts and bolts. That is the basic kit.

The kit can be self installed, and instructions are included. But we don't recommend that just anyone installs this. You really need someone who knows what they are doing install it.

The price is $4000, and all mentioned above is included.

The boost controller is part of the stage 2 kit. Which is the ECU, injectors, fuel pump/adapter, and boost controller.

minimc,
Yes, but no. None of the customers out there, posting their experiences, will have the Hydra. Still about a month away.

If you need more detailed info, i will post everything down to the nut and bolt, and materials used.

 

was this a dyno jet?

 

Excuse my ignorance
But I need a question answered
Stock boost on a MCS is about 10-11 psi
Stock power 163-170 hp
Ok so I bolt on a turbo and up the boost by another 6-7 psi to 17-18 psi
And the power shoots up to 230 whp according to the Alta kit,
So why when people change the SC pulley to 15-19% and are making 15-17 Psi of boost are the power numbers not as high??????
Surely boost is boost, and it is only 6 psi extra,
Is it the fact that the IAT are higher with the SC?????
Just need to get my head around this one as I understand how a turbo and supercharger works,
The fact that a SC pulley and crank pulley can nearly deliver the same abount of boost as a turbo why are the numbers not as good.

 

So the entry level Alta kits get 230hp with no ECU or fuel map changes? no electronics at all? no injectors?

 

turbo chargers are more efficiant than a super charger. the turbo is spooled by exhaust which is free, the sc is spooled by the crank which is not free. boost being the same, the turbo will make more power.

cheers

 

Harnessing the power from the expelled gasses is not free. You're basically adding a restriction to the exhaust system. Why do you think putting on a freer flowing exhaust is such a popular option to increase horsepower?
Turbo's just happen to be a lot more efficient at stealing engine HP to create the same level of boost. Turbo's also create boost without adding as much heat to the air as our roots style blower does.

 

but the fact is that the first 10-11 psi is still being made by the SC and the last 6 or so by the turbo,
so why does the last 6 psi make so much difference when made by the turbo compared to the SC,
and I really mean a big difference.

where is Andy???????

 

A kit which is priced at a reasonable price
Great job and well done if I may add... can't get it yet.. I hope soon if I get my project done in time with the right sponsors later on.

What would the whp rating get to if say... I got a the valvetrain changed and got the redline upto 8500-9000? Seriously.. ofcourse I'll do the internals, but I'd like to know how much of a difference the revs make.

How much of a temp hike are we talking here... kick *** boost! Is it safe in hot regions?

Enough Q's for now.. hope you get things up and running

 

for the most part, the SC is looking at a larger than ambient intake pressure throughout the range, allowing it to run more efficently.

 

So is it safe to say that it kinda compresses air now... more efficiently meaning less heat right?

 

as I have said in some other posts...every lb of boost from the SC is around 5 hp...where the Turbo is 10...it's just effiecency...but the two together work very very well cause the sc spools the turbo....

 

Tuls,
Don't know, but i am sure i will hear from him today.

Profpatpending,
This customers car i am refering too was running 13.5AFR on the dyno at these really high boost levels 19-20 psi. With some lower boost and safer, more power making AFR 11.9-12.5, it should make HP very close to this. At this point we are not saying for 100% in stock form, at the lowest boost setting that you will make X WHP. We will find a reasonable WHP level with the lowest boost setting and provide graphs very soon. This customers mis-adjusted boost controller, and lean mixture showed very good results.

Your right a pulley that makes this same boost or less, should make the same WHP. But it doesn't and it won't. A lot of it is do to the efficienty of the TC, and the SC. We are driving the SC slower, so cooler charge from it. Now if you compare this by itself, with a 17% or 19% SC pulley on the car, the charge temps alone are going to be very different. I would venture to say close to 20C. This is using some other data i have seen with stock SC pulley and 15%'s and 19%'s. Then add the Turbo and the temps will increase a little, but still be less than a 19% by quite a bit.

Then we add the HP gained from less drag on the SC, and we have winner! This alone is worth close to 15 Engine HP, not even wheel HP which would be more!

From this we can say SC pulley that makes the same boost as the TC kit will make less HP.

So to make a blanket statement, we have not given a WHP number for the Alta TC kit with the lowest boost setting. We will keep everyone up to date on the progress of our customers as they get their cars tuned.

 

Yeah... where? Something tells me that now defunct thread about a broken suspension component has made him disappear. Sorry abt. the O/T.

 

Oh no. He's still here.

 

I don't know, but it sure is nice and calm/cordial around here today!

 

ugsmay, otnay-osay ubltesay olltray.

 

Forgot to add to the list, the BOV. The BOV is included just missed it on the list.

 

Excuse me. I'm not much of a troll- I have twice as many posts as you.

or, in your pig-language:

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LOL dood...ALta2 only has some 355 or something....so what does that mean...LOL..

POST COUNT MEANS NOTHING! it doesn't make you smarter...or a tuner...or anything...it just means we have not life...LOL

 

Heres some info on turbos for those who are not famillar
http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/turbo101.htm
http://www.turbominivan.com/tech/turbo201.htm