I have 1000 $ more to spend. What mod. should I get? Car is a mostly a street car with some hard driving.

So far:

%15 ALTA
CAI ALTA
Headers Obx
Exhaust Miltek
Flywheel 14lbs
MTH Tuner
Coil Pack
Wires
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Large IC?
TB & Intake Manifolt?
Cam?
Or what?

Car is a 2005 Spec MCS.

 

heres what i would do...

alta 15% sc pulley
alta intake

Driving school...

-Josh

 

He says mostly street driving, so I don't think so. I say lightweight wheels and tires if you want a new look and some more zip, crank pulley for easier driving in town [if you can handle the small chance of damage- there's never been any reported], exhaust if you want some new sounds.

Regardless, nay on the driving school if no track. Not everyone needs or would appreciate it, that is fact.

PS: Flywheel install is upwards of 1000 alone .

 

i'd say driving school actually too.. beyond tracking abilities, there are driving training that focuses on street driving.. those can be very helpful too

otherwise.. with the money left over, get alta diverter if you live in a hot place, add the 2% crank pulley, and get a clutch.. (u got the flywheel!)

just my 0.02

 

I don't think he'd get much more power by installing any more 15% pullies and intakes since he stated that he has already done those once. . .

I'd go with 2% crank pulley and/or a cam for power, but nothing beats lightweight wheels and grippy tires for putting the power that you already have to the road...

 

Well, I must again respectfully disagree. That will net him no power, and it's unlikely he could effectively gain any unless he drives recklessly. The thread was about power.

Speaking of power, I revise my recommendations. Based on dyno experience , the M7 AGS v2 makes more power. Twice as much on our day. So, I say get the AGS . I don't have one yet [I had one and my parents kinda had an allergic reaction to the sound [no Alta for me either], so I had to trade it, but now I want one again ].

 

From what I have read with the mods you have you should have colder plugs.
Most folks install Denso IK22s once then put on a smaller supercharger pulley.

 

Since the thread is about more power it should also include improving the power to weight ratio- so lighter rims and non runflat sticky tires are a great improvement however for $1000 might not be within budget- so either save up for better wheels or-

Within budget the M7 AGS or the Larger IC from Webbmotorsports would be options.

When I first read about your mods and you ask what to spend $1000 on my first reaction was driving school- not for the purposes of driving on a track but for instruction on how to make the most out of your MCS and it's capabilities.

A good instructor at a driving school in a stock MINI can keep up or pass a mid modded MCS on nearly any track driven by your average MINI owner that does street driving. Skill counts the most, way more than any power mod you can do for $1000.

Most driving schools have car control clinics where you can drive in a safe environment and see what you can do with your MINI.

As for mods- From your list I don't see much for suspension, wheel and brake upgrades. These are key for improving handling for the future.

Do you have the factory LSD option? If so, good job.

 

The title of the thread is "Need More Power".

 

It's been proven, and you've apparently heard the results judging from past posts, so don't play smoke and mirrors. More power is more power. TWICE as much power is even better .

 

What results? Speaking of smoke and mirrors, where have they been "published"? Do you have a link? The only such comparison I have seen was done by MSFITOY and as you surely recall, the AGS made less power than the Alta.

 

"Publishing" was not mentioned. Look carefully. That is not my job and certainly not my right. Much as I'd like to quiet you for once and for all, I don't have the opportunity.

 

 

Let's put this another way, what evidence do you have to show us that suggests the AGS makes more power than the Alta? Here's the only direct comparison I have seen:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=48544

Cliff notes: Alta beat M7

 

Do you have any dyno plots, data, etc to back this up or are you in the same boat with ingsoc in this respect?

I could say that I saw a dyno that showed the HAI made twice as much power as the AGS but the actual data is not mine to share so I can't. How ridiculous does that sound?

 

Much as I'd like to quiet YOU for once and for all, I don't have the opportunity.

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To some of the others... how about stopping it with the "party line"... driving school, suspension, etc. posts for a second and consider actually addressing the question.

My take? If you NEEEEED more power for your street car, I mean really NEEEEEED it, then $1000 isn't going to get you anything. A couple HP... so what? You're going to be back in a couple months NEEEEEEDing more power. Either put the money towards a big power adder (turbo, nitrous, whatever) or get out of the car now. Replace it with something that makes more power and be done with it.

 

You know what? Read this: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d=1#post732243
and reconsider just who you think you're dealing with. I have problem with you, and I will look past your words. I do hope you will understand who it is you are addressing. Hint: I respect you.

 

Your response was so level-headed, but it missed the point! If he NEEEEEEEEDS more power, he should just get a CBR600RR

Can't imagine how fun THAT thing is...hopefully one day.

Minirowski - more power for 1,000$, I'll have to agree with JeffS, how sure are you that 1,000$ of power is going to satisfy you? If it won't, tis time for a new ride, plus, I don't know that even the experts here would say that power is the MCS's forte.

mb

mb

 

I'm with Jeff. time to go big.

 

i jus know and im on the same boat.........i promised, & wont step on anybodies toes !! .....not my style
BTW i dont see any dynos on HAI !?!?!?! could u shed sum light??

the point of wantin' to ingest hot air is still a mystery to me wether ur movin' or standin' still

 

Did you promise to publicly state that the M7 makes twice as much power as the Alta, but then refuse to produce any data or evidence to back up that claim?

Do a search and you'll find HAI dyno results (posted by The_R1_Kid) from the same SoCal dyno day as described in the other thread. Your search will also find the original HAI thread, where its concept is explained in depth.

Back OT, I'd recommend to the original poster to spend the $1k (or less) to upgrade wheels/tires with lighter and stickier ones. That's not exactly more crank horsepower, but that will enable you to accelerate faster, which is why we all want more power anyway.

 

like a tricked out head

 

se there u go again changin' stuff i type d0od !!
wats the deal schmeal ??

 

What did I change?

So, by agreeing with ingsoc, you stated that the AGS makes twice as much power, correct?

What exactly did you promise and to whom? If you feel I have misquoted you, please show me where I have done so and explain yourself.

 

Wow. It's been a while since we all were torched by the "M7 is all hype! - No, it's not!" flames. Given the current cost of natural gas and home heating oil, it's comforting to know that, during these cold winter days, this source of heat is always there just waiting for an incidental spark.