Is there a core charge now for the M7 throttle bodies and how come the price is no longer $348 like you posted in this thread? I was considering getting a 60mm, but would like to keep my stock unit. I was leaning towards M7 for the better price over Dinan and the no core charge, but if that's not true I might go for the Dinan one.

 

Aside from overall cost savings, you also get the Dinan/Mini-USA warranty with the Dinan TB. You also get the very solid reputation and R&D experience of Dinan.

 

Thank you Bob, your on a roll today(on multiple sites) and you are wrong.
M7 stands behind the products, to the point where we even offer uppgrades to original M7 TB to the Gen 2 units for $60,00, no one else does this. and if you would ask around you will find a lot of very happy people using our TB and the service we offer.

And for Dinans superior R&D, nothing against Dinan but you must be kidding me
we put more R&D in to the latest TB then all the companys in the MINI comunity combined IE. they are all excactly the same Bob why don't you go to our site and read up on the latest developments at M7.

peter
Team m7
562-608-8123

 

I think that's what I'm going to do. Dinan has a long history of working with BMW and making quality parts, but right now M7 is a young company and the quality and reputation of their products is in my opinion disputable right now. They sure do look pretty though.

 

not like i really need to say this, or am being forced to say this by any means, but M7 is one of the only companies i trust for aftermarket performance parts for my car.... i haven't started up my car yet with the current setup i have (see mods list on my website below if you have any questions), but their service and attention to detail is undeniable....

now i just have to figure out what i'm using my credit earned from those injectors i sent Peter a while back towards!!! 300fwhp here i come, since being broke is just SO much fun with a fun car like this!

 

There are basically 3 different' type of mini owners out there.

1) Love their Mini the way it is, these guys don't need any mods

2) Want the warranty with their mods, city slicker mods as I call them, please no offence to anyone

3) Then there's the guys that like to push the limits, or are just smart enough to know what there doing and are not afraid to mod knowing if something goes wrong it's totally their fault

You need to ask yourself what kind of person you are then you will know kind of mods you can do, feel free to send me a PM -- Johan

 

What exactly is disputable the reputation of about M7's products? If you're referring to the A-arm failure, you should check out that page again and read my post, because there's a hell of a lot more to that part than most people understand. Anyways, I run a ton of M7 parts on my car, and I've never had anything but the best, in terms of customer service and performance, out of my M7. I also have paid for every dime of those 5k+ worth of parts. The list of satisfied owers like myself and FastLane is huge. Of course, sometimes things happen. BUT, you'd be hard pressed to find a company that will stand behind its products more than M7. It has provided V2 tubes on its AGS for free, which give significantly better performance than the next best piece on the market- the Alta. It has offered cheap upgrades to current TB users. Again, think about what you're saying....

 

ingsoc, if you're going to make claims such as the above, please provide some bit of information to back them up. How much more does the V2 give than the Alta? Baseline? Max #s? Curves?

 

All I was saying was that they are a relatively new company and only time will tell. There is the A-arm issue, there was the AGS, and there have been a few others. I think they have some very interesting products, but it is also fair to be able to question them. I would like to try out their TB because it has some interesting features, but I don't like the way they are selling it so I will probably look at other options. I'm glad you and some others love the M7 products, but there are others out there that might not. That is life.

 

Well, i have nothing against M7, and i think those guys are trying their best to provide the Mini community with nice products.

However, if someone addressing his/her thoughts in a nice way, there is no need to put that person down with such smarta$$ comments such as "Want the warranty with their mods, city slicker mods as I call them, please no offence to anyone" (Prolly you offended ppl already, no need for ohhh, no offense)

Finally "You need to ask yourself what kind of person you are then you will know kind of mods you can do" is very idiotic. Personality and personal preferences are two different things.

I don't want to open a can of worms here, let's have more understanding.

 

Edited....nvm misread something and was confused

 

I have been searching high and low for performance data on the AGS. I currently have the Alta CAI w/ silicone hose but would consider switching to the AGS if the performance is better. What is "significantly better performance"? Please post the Alta and AGS performance data.

 

Believe me, if I could, I would...but the data is not mine to post. I'm hearing that it will be out sometime soon. I have my fingers crossed.

 

being a professional in this industry, i think his wording may have been a little off, but for you to jump his case about this is pretty ridiculous..... guess what, everything he said was true, that's how modding and tuning goes! some people want to do NOTHING, some people want a little, but like their warranty, and some people (like myself and a few others - the ones on here i get along great with) want to go all out and don't care about warranty because we (hopefully!!!!) know what we're doing.....

next time you feel like jumping someone's case when they clearly state "no offense" and MEAN that, take it to private messages, because you only made yourself look ignorant in the "Performance Mods" section of this forum - don't like the idea of modding AT ALL? try the "MINI Talk" or "Off Topic" sections, they won't have issues there for you to throw a fit about, i bet!

 

So the results ARE yours to post, but the data is not??
It's fine if the data is not for public consumption, but then quit posting the 'results'. It's only reasonable.

 

b4 they come on here tryin' to post 'negativity' ( A-arms , ags, ect ect...) bout them...........moddin' is not easy takes a lot of *****
i can only say g00d things bout M7, peter has gone out of his way for me in the past so power to him!!
..my ohnest advise, do ur home werk then go out & seek opinions but dont try to degrade in the process
..
anywho, ingsoc when do ya come up to GA.? july sounds g00d! make da plans i'll help too

 

Agreed

 

funny, because what you have posted is what i was trying to say. BTW, watch for your words, YOU ARE making a fool out of yourself, read the posts carefully before jumping all over me.

"don't like the idea of modding AT ALL? try the "MINI Talk" or "Off Topic" sections, they won't have issues there for you to throw a fit about, i bet!"

you might call yourself a professional, which might be true, i don't know nor do I care, your attitude is no different than a "bolt on queen".

I was going to send a pm to you, but it is not worth carrying a discussion with you, and your little ADVOCATE.

 

I agree with you.The problem is some of the professionals who profess to know more than any one else will fight a war of words with anyone on a thread just to get the last word in.Most dont understand that all the potentiall customers they are offending by being so aggressive with thier opinions.As far as questioning a suppliers reputation in supplying a part that fails,its not the parts failure thats the issue,its the way the distributer of the part treats the end customer.If he blows the customer off,he is neither protecting his reputation or the manufacturer he represents.The good thing about the Mini community is that there are plenty of sources of parts now so if you are not treated well,you can source your fun elsewhere.

 

I totally agree with you about the way the distributor treats the customer and reacts. There are other vendors on NAM, but M7 seems to get into the most heated battles here. If they didn't react so aggresively and were a little more careful with their comments they could probably avoid a lot of it. I think it would help too if their marketing statements were a little more conservative, but you do have to get people's attention to sell products. These are just my opinions and I am not for or against M7. I am just a MINI owner. I do actually have one of their products on my car right now...the ultimate grille and have thought about others.

There are so many tuners out there now that if you end up not wanting to deal with one then there is probably another one with a similar product. For the TB there is M7, Dinan, Webb motorsports, and even your MINI dealer if you want to do the boring yourself.

 

amen. I think their enthousiasm gets them in trouble. Their replies aren't always that smart. I use their products and I'm looking at some of their new stuff but I wish they would simply ignore most of the "M7" posts on this forum and instead invest that time to develop, test & release new things...

 

I can definately see how you could see it this way. I personally see it a little differently. Please, though, this thread is about M7's TB, so let's end it here.

 

i love this forum.... you know, there's no other car i can think of that the customers want BMW quality with Honda pricing since they got strange combination when they bought their car--a BMW at a Honda price! i've talked to Peter about this, and he understands why i respect his decision to stick with the MINI crowd, because i sure as hell can't....

sure, there are a LOT of heated discussions that involve M7 - but that's what happens when someone puts a lot into something!!! short story, pay attention now.... there's a guy local to this area in Orlando with a 1000rwhp turbo Mustang (not even kidding) who takes a LOT of crap from all the racers because he is the king of this town.... people try and shut him up, call him out to races left and right, and he backs down until he's ready for the track, ready to PROVE what he can do at the track - and he does it, does it every single time!!!

moral of the story is.... M7 puts a lot into what they do because they are so good at doing it - yes, there are a lot of other tuners out there doing the same thing, but then again, how many of you ONLY have one brand of MINI tuning parts on your car? none, not one single person here, why? because NO ONE makes everything!!!!

its funny how you all take so much offense when i say something intelligent.... now you all know the real reason why i never advertised on here and NEVER sold only MINI tuning products...............

but like ingsoc said, back to the M7 throttle body conversation - if you can act mature enough to take it to PM and not try and insult someone on here (yes, i am a professional, and yes, i have been doing this for a lot longer than you have, so no, don't try and sound like a MINI-God on here in front of everyone because i know i'm no where near being one), then lets talk via PM instead, cool????

 

It seems to me from your website that you are a professional ICE person. Not a slam on you, but it seems to be a little misleading to claim that you are a "pro" when the thread is about performance parts.

 

I'm pretty damn close to single-vendor, here, FastLane! You and I should meet up one day while I'm on my way to West Palm. I'd love to see you car in action, and I think you might like to take mine for a spin . My mods:

M7/Cosworth Stage 2+:
M7 TB [v2, 60 mm] <-- It's SWEET!
M7/Cosworth ported Head, intake manifold, S/C
M7 16% S/C pulley and 2% Crank Pulley

M7 hood scoop
M7 thermostat
M7 oil catch can
M7 springs
M7 STB
M7 prototype software [8100 rpm and loving it!]

non-M7:
H Sport comp rear sway [M7 sells them]
H Sport rear control arms [ditto]
Borla Street exhaust
coming within a couple of weeks: PLX R-300 wideband and computer [from M7 ;-)]

Think that's about it! Anyways, M7 has made nearly every piece that I need for my car, and everyone who drives it LOVES it. I know of only one MCS which is faster, and he puts down 240+ whp. heh.

Every single piece that I have received has been absolutely QUALITY, and I've had zero problems with any of them.