Drivetrain Second Catch Can Installed
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Second Catch Can Installed
Total cost for the two….$35.
The first one (PCV circuit) has been in for about 400 miles and there are no signs of heat concerns (temperature is about 108 degrees using the Raytec temperature gun. The second can (valve cover vent circuit) was just installed this morning inside the Alta air box (temperature about 75 degrees). I removed the intercooler to run the lines as shown in the photos. Enjoy.
The first one (PCV circuit) has been in for about 400 miles and there are no signs of heat concerns (temperature is about 108 degrees using the Raytec temperature gun. The second can (valve cover vent circuit) was just installed this morning inside the Alta air box (temperature about 75 degrees). I removed the intercooler to run the lines as shown in the photos. Enjoy.
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I have to finish up my install for the alta catch can as I ran out of hose and need some more to finish it. I only have it hooked up to the one valve cover. What was the part that you used? I know there is another post about it. But it might help with other people who look at your post and wondering what you used. What type of hose did you use? Is that fuel line?
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The first photo is the first catch can I installed on the PCV circuit.
The hose is 3/8-inch fuel line.
The reason for two cans is because after reading up on all the “catch can” subject matter posted on the board (do a search for the in depth discussion), I believe that running both circuits through the same can may have potential adverse effects on the motor. If the engine designer’s intended for the two circuits to be connected…they would have done so. There is a pressure balance within the engine that needs to be maintained, and even the Alta guy runs two cans in his own personal Mini.
With only 1100 miles at “break-in” revs, I only have a trace of oil residue, so nothing to drain at this time.
First install.
The hose is 3/8-inch fuel line.
The reason for two cans is because after reading up on all the “catch can” subject matter posted on the board (do a search for the in depth discussion), I believe that running both circuits through the same can may have potential adverse effects on the motor. If the engine designer’s intended for the two circuits to be connected…they would have done so. There is a pressure balance within the engine that needs to be maintained, and even the Alta guy runs two cans in his own personal Mini.
With only 1100 miles at “break-in” revs, I only have a trace of oil residue, so nothing to drain at this time.
First install.
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If you had one catch can for now, what would be the best place to install it in first? Should you install it on the pcv circuit or the valve cover side for best results? Again this is for someone who owns one catch can right now. I have mine hooked up to the pcv circuit and have not seen any results of oil in the can yet. Maybe I should hook it up to the valve cover side and see what happens.
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I have not had the second one (valve cover curcuit) in long enough to determine which one is collecting more oil, so I could not say "which is best". So far the first one has just a trace of oil film, and the second one is dry. I also have not exceeded 5K rpm, which may be why. Will post when I find out more.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by daleCarlsbad
I have not had the second one (valve cover curcuit) in long enough to determine which one is collecting more oil, so I could not say "which is best". So far the first one has just a trace of oil film, and the second one is dry. I also have not exceeded 5K rpm, which may be why. Will post when I find out more.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I barely see BELOW 5,000 RPMs and dont'collect much oil now ...
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makes alot of sense, like this idea the more i look into it!!!
great work!!
great work!!
Originally Posted by daleCarlsbad
The first photo is the first catch can I installed on the PCV circuit.
The hose is 3/8-inch fuel line.
The reason for two cans is because after reading up on all the “catch can” subject matter posted on the board (do a search for the in depth discussion), I believe that running both circuits through the same can may have potential adverse effects on the motor. If the engine designer’s intended for the two circuits to be connected…they would have done so. There is a pressure balance within the engine that needs to be maintained, and even the Alta guy runs two cans in his own personal Mini.
With only 1100 miles at “break-in” revs, I only have a trace of oil residue, so nothing to drain at this time.
First install.
The hose is 3/8-inch fuel line.
The reason for two cans is because after reading up on all the “catch can” subject matter posted on the board (do a search for the in depth discussion), I believe that running both circuits through the same can may have potential adverse effects on the motor. If the engine designer’s intended for the two circuits to be connected…they would have done so. There is a pressure balance within the engine that needs to be maintained, and even the Alta guy runs two cans in his own personal Mini.
With only 1100 miles at “break-in” revs, I only have a trace of oil residue, so nothing to drain at this time.
First install.
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Not yet. I have been out to sea for the last three weeks, so the Toys are parked.
Prior to leaving I did a few hundred miles but did not see any trace in the second can. The first can had a trace of oily film after I first installed it, but no substantial increase after that.
My current thoughts are that the second one may not be required, although I will have more information to base that opinion on after a few thousand miles. At any rate I feel comfortable knowing that no matter what, my intercooler is clean.
Will post here (a new post) if anything develops.
Prior to leaving I did a few hundred miles but did not see any trace in the second can. The first can had a trace of oily film after I first installed it, but no substantial increase after that.
My current thoughts are that the second one may not be required, although I will have more information to base that opinion on after a few thousand miles. At any rate I feel comfortable knowing that no matter what, my intercooler is clean.
Will post here (a new post) if anything develops.
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I just wanted to post an update about the catch can catching oil. I noticed a good amount of oil in my catch can. This is only being hooked up to the pcv valve section. I did not notice any oil coming from the valve cover section. Also I had to pull the Intercooler the other day to install my boost gauge and my intercooler is as clean as it can be. No trace of oil what so ever.
Garrett
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is it normal to not see oil comin' from the valve cover?
are u running a resonator on ur Playmini/Scorpion exhaust?
wuz it hard to plug/mount ur boost gauge?
are u running a resonator on ur Playmini/Scorpion exhaust?
wuz it hard to plug/mount ur boost gauge?
Originally Posted by garretwp
I just wanted to post an update about the catch can catching oil. I noticed a good amount of oil in my catch can. This is only being hooked up to the pcv valve section. I did not notice any oil coming from the valve cover section. Also I had to pull the Intercooler the other day to install my boost gauge and my intercooler is as clean as it can be. No trace of oil what so ever.
Garrett
Garrett
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The playmini/scorpion exhuast does not come with a resonator. As for the oil coming from the valve cover section, I guess it is ok for no oil to be there. Actaully I am glade that there is no trace of oil from there! The boost gauge was not hard to install. You will need time though, it was a very tight fit to get the new vacuum line attached to the nipple on the intake manifold! Lets just say I have some cut up knuckles and sliced fingers getting it done. Small hands help, but still a tight fit.
Garrett
Garrett
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yea i know, i had the Playmini & wux told u can get it w/or w/out resonator but i dont think this is accurate. so anywho i wuz askin' cuz i see u have a 05 B&M SS kit so wanted to know if it got in the way of thr resonator.....
.......i know, sory long story!
so u went w/a mechanical on ur boost gauge?
.......i know, sory long story!
so u went w/a mechanical on ur boost gauge?
Originally Posted by garretwp
The playmini/scorpion exhuast does not come with a resonator. As for the oil coming from the valve cover section, I guess it is ok for no oil to be there. Actaully I am glade that there is no trace of oil from there! The boost gauge was not hard to install. You will need time though, it was a very tight fit to get the new vacuum line attached to the nipple on the intake manifold! Lets just say I have some cut up knuckles and sliced fingers getting it done. Small hands help, but still a tight fit.
Garrett
Garrett