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Old Sep 17, 2022 | 04:09 AM
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Single mass flywheel conversion

First time posting. I am doing a 6 speed swap on my R50. I also am converting over to a single mass flywheel but has anyone bought the M pact single mass flywheel conversion kit from rock auto? How is it compared to the valeo kit? Is about $100 cheaper, but why?

https://www.rockauto.com/

 
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:58 AM
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Why indeed. The Valeo SMF kit is highly regarded in the Mini community.

You can buy the cheaper kit and roll the dice or spend a little more a get a known, good product.

That said, when I replaced my clutch, I stuck with a DMF. New clutch kit and DMF from LUK purchased from FCP Euro. Why did I stick with a DMF? I'm not sure. I guess I didn't want anything to change. Maybe next clutch I'll try SMF.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 08:28 AM
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I installed the Valeo single-mass and love it. Because the clutch is such a PITA to replace, I would stay with the Valeo rather than take a chance on a much cheaper alternative.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2022 | 05:50 PM
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@cooper48 Is your car a DD or a track car? I'm curious if the road manners of the Valeo SMF are worse than the DMF. In particular, low RPM vibrations and noise.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2022 | 06:53 PM
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My MC40 is a DD. The Valeo road manners are perfect, plus it has a much lighter clutch feel than the stock DMF. There are no low RPM vibrations or noise. My MINI was dynoed at 197.50hp at the wheel and the Valeo handles it easily. I highly recommend it.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 10:45 AM
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I have used the Valeo and the Sachs units, booth good. If you daily go with the DMF from valeo. If you are pushing power go with a performance clutch. If you are OEM+ just go stock to stock with an valeo or sachs dual mass.

You cannot resurface a dual mass flywheel. Only the single mass.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the opinions, guys.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 11:36 PM
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I have used the Valeo and the Sachs units, booth good. If you daily go with the DMF from valeo. If you are pushing power go with a performance clutch. If you are OEM+ just go stock to stock with an valeo or sachs dual mass.

You cannot resurface a dual mass flywheel. Only the single mass.
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What...do you consider, "pushing power" is ?

I bought a new "posi" unit, because the one in my car "ISN'T" anymore. According to the "build sheet"...yes it has one. But only one tire spins in most occasions.
Anyway, I figured that since I'll be inside, I may as well replace the clutch and main seal also. I'm used to old American Iron with a solid flywheel, and sprung disc.
BUT, the Mini wasn't born that way ! My 05, JCW was dyno'd at 211hp.

Where exactly, would that horse power line be drawn, power wise ?
Yes, my car is a daily driver, but as spirited as I can !

Mike
 
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R56 Valeo Single mass flywheel conversion kit?

Folks, asking a question that I hope isn’t answered the way I think it will be…

VALEO 52151203 is Mini Flywheel Conversion Kit for 2002-2008.

I am looking for the same kit that will satisfy 2011 S N18 R57.

I can’t find it anywhere. May not exist. I asked ECS and they don’t have it. They usually have everything lol.

so, that’s what im after. Get rid of OEM dual mass. Buy new OEM clutch. Fit with new single mass *steel* flywheel.

many thanks
 
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 08:07 AM
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Valeo never made one for the R56 MINI Cooper S, talked to the product managers personally and they did not have one in the plans.

We are working on our own in the future.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Valeo never made one for the R56 MINI Cooper S, talked to the product managers personally and they did not have one in the plans.

We are working on our own in the future.
ECS always so helpful and quick to reply many thanks.

So, here’s what’s out there at a pretty penny for R56 N18.

https://jmtcperformance.com/dual-mas...2016-r-series/

Does ECS have a competitive product?

I don’t want the aluminum flywheel gotta be steel with OEM Valeo Clutch..

So many have recommended the single mass over dual, but I don’t know now… (1) if there is any gain or driving pleasure with single mass if I will only be cruising the canyons about 2k miles annually… (2) I think OEM dual mass with OEM clutch won’t be any cheaper than $1200.

LOL quite the expensive pickle eh?


 
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 09:23 AM
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Hello,

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-clutch-m...35-hd00-sk~cl/

This is the most popular and best feel. Can be used for daily to light track.

BTW this is the w11 engine section

If you want a stock feel and daily N18 set up cooper S . https://www.ecstuning.com/b-sachs-pa...207595577~sac/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/b-valeo-pa...208606067~val/

Dont forget to do : https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117568467/ (tend to snap) and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545085/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545084/ as a precaution.

 
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Hello,

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-clutch-m...35-hd00-sk~cl/

This is the most popular and best feel. Can be used for daily to light track.

BTW this is the w11 engine section

If you want a stock feel and daily N18 set up cooper S . https://www.ecstuning.com/b-sachs-pa...207595577~sac/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/b-valeo-pa...208606067~val/

Dont forget to do : https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117568467/ (tend to snap) and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545085/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545084/ as a precaution.
right on! Very happy to see staying with OEM dual mass saves me about $400. FX100 no way Jose never :-)

mods please move to N18 R56. I bumped this thread because it was only one that came up in my search and I hate starting new threads unnecessarily.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2025 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Hello,

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-clutch-m...35-hd00-sk~cl/

This is the most popular and best feel. Can be used for daily to light track.

BTW this is the w11 engine section

If you want a stock feel and daily N18 set up cooper S . https://www.ecstuning.com/b-sachs-pa...207595577~sac/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/b-valeo-pa...208606067~val/

Dont forget to do : https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117568467/ (tend to snap) and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545085/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2011-...h/23117545084/ as a precaution.
thanks again! I purchased the flywheel juts as y’all were right on with price there :-) But your clutch kit is more than double Amazon and still way above Rock Auto.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2025 | 06:46 AM
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Hello,

Make sure it the same. We some part number on rock and amazon not the exact part but masked and error in their data. PM me the parts you found and i can dig in.
 
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