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Drivetrain Helix & RDR!

Old Nov 12, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Helix & RDR!

I guess this would be the announcemet that Eric alluded to a few days back:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...086#post421086

Wow!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Where the heck is the IC!!!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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That's the best question I've seen in a while
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Maybe with Sema, and all of the paperwork to forge this merger, the IC's progess took a back seat...

Something tells me that this might be only the beginning of mergers and exciting partnerships to come-down the pike...

Collaboration is good!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
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Where the heck is the IC!!!
We are going to continue to evaluate the cores but we will not bother selling intercoolers that give no benefit over the stockers. We will move the testing of the intercoolers to the Philly location, and hopefully we'll get better results than what we've seen so far.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Helix13mini
We are going to continue to evaluate the cores but we will not bother selling intercoolers that give no benefit over the stockers. We will move the testing of the intercoolers to the Philly location, and hopefully we'll get better results than what we've seen so far.
Eric,

Here is a post from you back in 2003 (https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...DR+Intercooler) indicating that the RDR appeared to be showing at least the same if not better numbers than the air to water intercooler. There are a ton of other posts indicating people who had conversations with you in which you said it was showing excellent numbers. I even called RDR a while back and they said the same thing. Why then all of a sudden after almost a year of talk is there a sudden turnaround and now it sounds like it makes no improvement or worse numbers? Could you elaborate some? I was really waiting for this one. Why was it showing good numbers and now bad numbers? Do you think all the air to air intercoolers are suffering the same thing? There doesn't seem to be any real solid numbers on any of them out there.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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dgszweda:

That's not a post from me, that's a post from somebody else "quoting" me. Like you, I had been very optimistic about the effetiveness of a larger intercooler. I just haven't seen the numbers to substantiate the optimism. Here's the operative phrase in Redleg13's "quote" of me:


"I don't have the proper dyno tests
complete"

If there are a "ton" of other posts from people who had conversations with me where I said that the intercoolers were showing "excellent numbers", I haven't seen them. More importantly, we have never seen any tests that show excellent numbers.

As I stated in my above post, we will continue to evaluate both cores from RDR and Hopefully we can come up with a design that improves efficiency. Until then, we won't offer a part that doesn't improve the performance of the car (notice that we don't sell a header?). I, like you, want a good intake charge cooling solution for my car: one that works, isn't too expensive, and easy to install. Especially for the Philly summer months. If we come up with one, or I find one out there, I'll gladly sell it.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:08 AM
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Need any testing volunteers? I have a 19% on my car now. I can feel a difference when it is very hot out. Now that it is 32 in the morning, the car just launches down the road.
 
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