Maybe it’s a personal opinion. But if I put half throttle, I’d like half throttle. And if I put 3/4 throttle, I want 3/4 throttle. Not full boost. Personal opinion, nothing wrong with full boost at half throttle. Makes the car feel more alive, just makes the rest of the throttle almost ineffective.

 

That's how "sport" mode works without any mods. "Normal" mode is more progressive.

 

Yeah. I’ll get on the dyno maybe Tuesday. Car is so quiet without the intake or exhaust. Really need to put this exhaust back on for more sound! And intake for induction noise! Sounds like nothing now, just fast and quiet. Very weird to me haha.

 

Will you be fitting an intercooler as these cars get quite hot.

 

 

I have the Helix unit on my car.

 

http://www.wagner-tuning.uk/200001076.html

 

Evolve Tune on Fully Stock Car (Apart from muffler delete).
**These figures are with California 91 Octane Fuel on a DynoJet"
Stock Run: 203whp 215wtq
Evolve Run: 249whp 366wtq

Gained 46whp 151wtq

Insane gains in torque! Same dyno day and everything, just map switched in between the runs with my laptop. Torque was 351 then 355 then 366 (which was the best run).

Will post video after I dyno with my 3in Turboback Exhaust!
Refer to the dyno graph

 

Not being a jerk but doesn't that seem low? From their site:

Additional 70-80 hp on a stock vehicle - Manual Car (Automatic cars make 50-60 hp due to the limitations of the gearbox)

 

The gains quoted on our website are crank figure and on 93 Oct/99 RON fuel.

The gains made at the wheels on John's car on just 91 Octane pump fuel are very good and in line with what we would expect for that fuel.

 

Good Point. I told Evolve to tune more conservative since I am on crappy 91 octane fuel in California! Their cars make way more power on 93 octane. I was expecting pretty low numbers, since I know the tune is "softened" for my region, but I was very impressed by the results.

As a reference.
When I had the Bytetronik Tune on the same dyno, I made 276whp 373wtq. The difference is when I had a BT Tune, I had an Intake System, Catless Downpipe, Full Exhaust, Colder Spark Plugs, and Higher Octane Fuel.

Versus 249whp 366wtq with Evolve Map on a fully Stock Car (apart from a cut muffler) and 91 octane fuel.

I'm curious how the Evolve map will dyno with my Turboback Exhaust fitted. I just finished putting it on today and already feels much faster than with the stock exhaust. Giving it a few days to adapt then back on the dyno! Hopefully I can post a video up on NAM soon.

 

gotcha, like I said, I want trying to be a jerk.

 

What's going on between 3-4k rpm, with the power dropping/rising again a bunch of times. Also, it makes less power than stock above 5000 rpm?

Or am I just reading this all wrong?

 

The torque is insane indeed! What are the limitations of the automatic gearbox? Just curious.

 

I think he has a manual, or at least that is what I thought I saw in his build thread

 

Why not add a panel filter in the mix be fore the dyno.
It's ashame you have no 93 octane and the full evolve map as I would like to see evolves tune against the bytetronik.

 

I was more curious for myself and others who have the sport automatic.

 

No I think you're reading it right, also the Evolve map doesn't seem to carry out to redline, unless the redline was dropped some from the factory map.

I'm also quite curious what's causing the jumpiness in the 3-4K RPM range compared to the smoothness of the factory map.

 

This is Chris from WNY Minis (one of the admins). I have the Bytetronik tune on my S with sport auto. Lets get together sometime and chat, you can drive my car too.

So not to start anything with johntotah94 but you constantly said that the BT tune was just wayyyy too aggressive, but your "softened" Evolve tune with none of your intake or downpipe parts on made close to the same power as the BT. So wouldn't logic say that the Evolve "softened" tune for you is way more aggressive than the BT because that is exactly what your dyno's say.

 

I’ll take it one step further, I don’t believe those torque number on the tune. Nothing against Evolve by any means but I don’t think the dyno was calibrated correctly. That is way too much torque and not enough HP

The HP numbers on Evolves site are nowhere near the gains that were posted on the dyno chart

 

This too, that dyno is putting out very unrealistic numbers.

 

His baseline is well within the range of other stock cooper s dynos posted here on NAM and motoringfun.

 

No you are reading it right. According to that dyno with the Evolve tune his car is making less HP and TQ than his stock dyno after 5k. Something isn't right that your tune HP drops like a rock at 4500rpm's. Talk about a messed up HP curve.

His HP curve looks nothing like Evolve's dyno on their website.

 

 

as far as I no the pistons are fine it was just a rumour started by one of the tech's in the UK.