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Maybe it’s a personal opinion. But if I put half throttle, I’d like half throttle. And if I put 3/4 throttle, I want 3/4 throttle. Not full boost. Personal opinion, nothing wrong with full boost at half throttle. Makes the car feel more alive, just makes the rest of the throttle almost ineffective.
Yeah. I’ll get on the dyno maybe Tuesday. Car is so quiet without the intake or exhaust. Really need to put this exhaust back on for more sound! And intake for induction noise! Sounds like nothing now, just fast and quiet. Very weird to me haha.
Evolve Tune on Fully Stock Car (Apart from muffler delete).
**These figures are with California 91 Octane Fuel on a DynoJet"
Stock Run: 203whp 215wtq
Evolve Run: 249whp 366wtq
Gained 46whp 151wtq
Insane gains in torque! Same dyno day and everything, just map switched in between the runs with my laptop. Torque was 351 then 355 then 366 (which was the best run).
Will post video after I dyno with my 3in Turboback Exhaust!
Refer to the dyno graph
Not being a jerk but doesn't that seem low? From their site:
Additional 70-80 hp on a stock vehicle - Manual Car (Automatic cars make 50-60 hp due to the limitations of the gearbox)
Good Point. I told Evolve to tune more conservative since I am on crappy 91 octane fuel in California! Their cars make way more power on 93 octane. I was expecting pretty low numbers, since I know the tune is "softened" for my region, but I was very impressed by the results.
As a reference.
When I had the Bytetronik Tune on the same dyno, I made 276whp 373wtq. The difference is when I had a BT Tune, I had an Intake System, Catless Downpipe, Full Exhaust, Colder Spark Plugs, and Higher Octane Fuel.
Versus 249whp 366wtq with Evolve Map on a fully Stock Car (apart from a cut muffler) and 91 octane fuel.
I'm curious how the Evolve map will dyno with my Turboback Exhaust fitted. I just finished putting it on today and already feels much faster than with the stock exhaust. Giving it a few days to adapt then back on the dyno! Hopefully I can post a video up on NAM soon.
Why not add a panel filter in the mix be fore the dyno.
It's ashame you have no 93 octane and the full evolve map as I would like to see evolves tune against the bytetronik.
What's going on between 3-4k rpm, with the power dropping/rising again a bunch of times. Also, it makes less power than stock above 5000 rpm?
Or am I just reading this all wrong?
No I think you're reading it right, also the Evolve map doesn't seem to carry out to redline, unless the redline was dropped some from the factory map.
I'm also quite curious what's causing the jumpiness in the 3-4K RPM range compared to the smoothness of the factory map.
I was more curious for myself and others who have the sport automatic.
This is Chris from WNY Minis (one of the admins). I have the Bytetronik tune on my S with sport auto. Lets get together sometime and chat, you can drive my car too.
So not to start anything with johntotah94 but you constantly said that the BT tune was just wayyyy too aggressive, but your "softened" Evolve tune with none of your intake or downpipe parts on made close to the same power as the BT. So wouldn't logic say that the Evolve "softened" tune for you is way more aggressive than the BT because that is exactly what your dyno's say.
I’ll take it one step further, I don’t believe those torque number on the tune. Nothing against Evolve by any means but I don’t think the dyno was calibrated correctly. That is way too much torque and not enough HP
The HP numbers on Evolves site are nowhere near the gains that were posted on the dyno chart
I’ll take it one step further, I don’t believe those torque number on the tune. Nothing against Evolve by any means but I don’t think the dyno was calibrated correctly. That is way too much torque and not enough HP
The HP numbers on Evolves site are nowhere near the gains that were posted on the dyno chart
This too, that dyno is putting out very unrealistic numbers.
What's going on between 3-4k rpm, with the power dropping/rising again a bunch of times. Also, it makes less power than stock above 5000 rpm?
Or am I just reading this all wrong?
No you are reading it right. According to that dyno with the Evolve tune his car is making less HP and TQ than his stock dyno after 5k. Something isn't right that your tune HP drops like a rock at 4500rpm's. Talk about a messed up HP curve.
His HP curve looks nothing like Evolve's dyno on their website.
…which is fairly conservative because of weak pistons on B46/B48…
I’d like to know more about this. I spent an hour last night searching Google and other forums for information about weak pistons and haven’t come up with anything concrete. I also cross checked parts on realoem.com. The pistons used in the B48 in the F56 were shared with half a dozen other cars; the pistons were updated to a new part in March 2015; that part is used in some 27 BMW models as well as all five MINI models. (My MINI was built late that month, so who knows for sure which pistons it has.) I would expect that if there were a problem with the pistons, either the earlier or later part, we should be seeing it coming up in BMW models which use the same B48/46 engines in a higher state of tune but the same parts. I’m not finding evidence of that. Help? Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places?
I’d like to know more about this. I spent an hour last night searching Google and other forums for information about weak pistons and haven’t come up with anything concrete. I also cross checked parts on realoem.com. The pistons used in the B48 in the F56 were shared with half a dozen other cars; the pistons were updated to a new part in March 2015; that part is used in some 27 BMW models as well as all five MINI models. (My MINI was built late that month, so who knows for sure which pistons it has.) I would expect that if there were a problem with the pistons, either the earlier or later part, we should be seeing it coming up in BMW models which use the same B48/46 engines in a higher state of tune but the same parts. I’m not finding evidence of that. Help? Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places?
as far as I no the pistons are fine it was just a rumour started by one of the tech's in the UK.
