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Originally Posted by RDSJCW
Nice!,

so based on AWE's exhaust history options with Porsche the mentioned "touring edition" means there is a "non- touring edition" more aggressive option too?

Am i right?
We do love providing options!
 
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
I'm excited to see the product as well as customer videos but the wait was too long for me unfortunately, especially with there being little to no information released.

Here's something for those of you who are still waiting lmao.
oh, so that's how you drove my car eric..i'm just now seeing this video!
if you liked it then, i just upgraded to the Burger Tuning JB4. much smoother, and even more of a pull. i should probably take another drive to see you guys.

the key word that eric pointed out in the video was "live-able". the muffler-delete was cool for a bit, but it just got too annoying. this is quiet when it needs to be, and then produces a nice sound when pushed harder. that's what i love about it. and well, the rest i leave up to AWE to describe as they see fit.
 
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Sweeeeet- roll it out my man!!!
 
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oh, so that's how you drove my car eric..i'm just now seeing this video!
if you liked it then, i just upgraded to the Burger Tuning JB4. much smoother, and even more of a pull. i should probably take another drive to see you guys.

the key word that eric pointed out in the video was "live-able". the muffler-delete was cool for a bit, but it just got too annoying. this is quiet when it needs to be, and then produces a nice sound when pushed harder. that's what i love about it. and well, the rest i leave up to AWE to describe as they see fit.
Let's see a new driving video
 
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People were asking me for details about the Scorpion exhaust from my F56, Scorpion themselves have now released this information. Please note I am not affiliated with Scorpion, they just borrowed my car to develop the parts:

Stainless Steel Cat-Back 70mm system available in resonated or non resonated with polished or black ceramic coated tailpipes - all made onsite in the UK as I have walked around their factory:

O.E Scorpion Max Gain
Power (BHP) 189.2 198.2 +9
Weight (KG) 16.6 12.6 -4

http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/pro...ml?autoid=1665

UK Suppliers:https://orranje.co.uk/shop-by-car/bm...6-mini/exhaust



Fitting instructions:

http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/sit..._smn010_00.pdf

Their video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcCg...ature=youtu.be

Their pictures:



70mm Resonated system with 90mm polished Daytona tailpipes


70mm Non resonated system with 90mm Daytona tailpipes




Downpipes:



My videos:

Scorpion Catback and decat pipe

scorpion catback only

 
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
oh, so that's how you drove my car eric.
Haha! I treated your car with the gentlest of touches when testing the AWE Touring Exhaust. Actually, you don't need to give it the stick with this exhaust to get your money's worth, it's fun just to tool around 3-5k rpm and listen to the note. No need to Ike Turner your car.

I have an AWE exhaust in my family as well. My wife has a F30 BMW (2 Liter turbo 4 N20 motor) with AWE's version of the touring exhaust for the BMW. One of the (many) costs of being married to me is that I always tinker with her car, so she has to put up with performance exhausts and the like. I snuck it away several months ago and installed the AWE quad tip on it. She, despite not being interested in car tuning, likes the exhaust. It turns what is essentially a soul-less car into something that's really fun to drive, without pissing off the wife. Here's a linky to that story.
 

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Old 12-10-2015, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Helix13mini
Haha! I treated your car with the gentlest of touches when testing the AWE Touring Exhaust. Actually, you don't need to give it the stick with this exhaust to get your money's worth, it's fun just to tool around 3-5k rpm and listen to the note. No need to Ike Turner your car.

I have an AWE exhaust in my family as well. My wife has a F30 BMW (2 Liter turbo 4 N20 motor) with AWE's version of the touring exhaust for the BMW. One of the (many) costs of being married to me is that I always tinker with her car, so she has to put up with performance exhausts and the like on her car. I snuck it away several months ago and installed the AWE quad tip on it. She, despite not being interested in car tuning, likes the exhaust. It turns what is essentially a soul-less car into something that's really fun to drive, without pissing off the wife. Here's a linky to that story.
I like the shift **** in the car! Can I had more info on that?
 
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
I like the shift **** in the car! Can I had more info on that?
https://goo.gl/photos/mu1oMeJr8HQcJxVK6
 
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You can check it out and learn more here!

If you hurry, you might be able to stuff your favorite MINI owner's stocking with one!






 
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Looks good, sounds good, and still pricey but definitely less than the 1k valved exhaust. Does it still POP though in sport mode? I can't wait to see how my setup sounds compared to this.
 
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Josh,

sign me up for track edition/ black tips @ Holiday Pricing.

Nice power gains from a exhaust system!! Comparable to a high flow down pipe.
Well done.

Regards Rich
 
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
Looks good, sounds good, and still pricey but definitely less than the 1k valved exhaust. Does it still POP though in sport mode? I can't wait to see how my setup sounds compared to this.
Oh, it pops alright!
 
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Originally Posted by RDSJCW
Josh,

sign me up for track edition/ black tips @ Holiday Pricing.

Nice power gains from a exhaust system!! Comparable to a high flow down pipe.
Well done.

Regards Rich
Hey, Rich!

I just shot you an email
 
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Got it Josh!!

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Originally Posted by Josh/AWE
Oh, it pops alright!
any video?
 
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RDSJCW
Got it Josh!!

Thxs
You bet, my friend!

Originally Posted by honderpilot
any video?
You can hear the crackles at the end of each of the product videos posted in the launch thread.
 
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
any video?
hey man...i'll put some video together over the next few days. been waiting for a buddy of mine to get to town so he can help me with the videos and logs as i'm doing a few things..

- video of exhaust inside and out
- engine logs as i'm running a Burger Tune JB4 w/+6 and a FF adapter.

i'll see about putting together a mix of highway driving as well as some soft accelerations, hard accelerations, and some street driving (lights, traffic, etc..)

Marco
 
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Josh, a few questions from me since I'm shopping for an exhaust:

Is the AWE exhaust 2.5" all the way? Any reason you picked 2.5" compared to 2.75" which the other manufacturers are using?

I have a friend with a full 3" Armytrix turboback exhaust and immediately after fitting he felt that he had lost a bunch of low and mid range power. He ended up taking off the downpipe and run the Armytrix cat-back yet he still felt slight power lost.

Since my previous cars were all N/A, I'm still trying to get a definitive answer on the effect of exhaust piping on turbo car. Some say larger is better, yet some contradict that statement. I wonder if this is the reason why you've selected 2.5" instead of 2.75" or 3" piping. I understand that stock Cooper S is only 2.25".

Also is the AWE only for US- spec cars?

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Our Exhaust Suite is 2.5" from start to finish.

Going with 2.5" was the perfect compromise for suitable power, fit, cost, and to achieve our signature sound. In your friend's case, a loss of torque with little gain up top is very believable when considering the effects of a 3" system. It takes more effort to move the larger mass of air.

We've achieved a lot with 2.5" diameter systems, set a few records even

Regarding whether the system is for U.S. spec MINIs... well... we'll have to get it over seas to confirm Euro spec models are acceptive of it
 
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Originally Posted by BadakVT
Josh, a few questions from me since I'm shopping for an exhaust:

Is the AWE exhaust 2.5" all the way? Any reason you picked 2.5" compared to 2.75" which the other manufacturers are using?

I have a friend with a full 3" Armytrix turboback exhaust and immediately after fitting he felt that he had lost a bunch of low and mid range power. He ended up taking off the downpipe and run the Armytrix cat-back yet he still felt slight power lost.

Since my previous cars were all N/A, I'm still trying to get a definitive answer on the effect of exhaust piping on turbo car. Some say larger is better, yet some contradict that statement. I wonder if this is the reason why you've selected 2.5" instead of 2.75" or 3" piping. I understand that stock Cooper S is only 2.25".

Also is the AWE only for US- spec cars?

Thanks!
Most overseas 2.75in are because that's a more common metric 70mm measurement as opposed to here 2in, 2.5in, 3in in increments of .5 are more standard. Also a lot of overseas ones have adapters for the US because there are subtle differences in the way they connect to the stock dp. The bigger diameter you go the more low end torque you lose but this can easily be corrected with something like the jb+ or nm power module which will make is not noticeable. The difference between 2.5 an 2.75 isn't noticeable but some people start noticing it at 3in especially coming from out stock 2.25 in piping.
 
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Some OEM information on the different B48 states of tune:

Cooper S exhaust is 60mm
JCW exhaust is 70mm
BMW 730i (high tune B48 w/ 258 HP and 295 LbFt) exhaust is 80mm in the midpipe and 75mm aft.
 
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
any video?

1) video was last night
2) car was driven for about 15 minutes
3) while this is at idle revving, it's not as much when driving.

personally, while i enjoy some subtle popping, i'm not a fan of excessive popping. would make for a frustrating driving experience. i'm in sport mode 95% of the time, so if everytime i drove it popped like crazy, i would not like it.
 
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Thanks, Marco!
 


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