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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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Upper Motor Mount

Hey guys, im not sure if i need a new upper motor mount, i have the tell tale signs i do need one, but i dont know if it has been replaced or not. so i was looking into solutions. and quite frankly other than the OEM is very expensive.

i like the VIP stabilizer, in conjunction with that, i did dig up that the old rubber mount could be retro fitted in, has anyone done this?

also has anyone created their own rubber mount? i was thinking of trying this
 
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 11:27 PM
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Vibra-Technics. Done. They aren't cheap, but are very good. I got both the upper and lower road versions from Greene Performance. The motor doesn't move, it's really nice.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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+1 on the Vibra Technics - the upper mount is beautiful and worth what you pay for it.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AudioNToxication
Vibra-Technics. Done. They aren't cheap, but are very good. I got both the upper and lower road versions from Greene Performance. The motor doesn't move, it's really nice.
AudioNToxication would you recommend the side gearbox mount too? I definitely need the upper mount. And was thinking of getting the lower as well. I haven't seen many threads on the gearbox and was wondering if I should just do all 3 in a single pop if it would make a big difference.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hinbot
AudioNToxication would you recommend the side gearbox mount too? I definitely need the upper mount. And was thinking of getting the lower as well. I haven't seen many threads on the gearbox and was wondering if I should just do all 3 in a single pop if it would make a big difference.
I actually only did the upper and lower with Vibra-technics I just put poly inserts in the trans mount. The motor still doesn't move. The upper and lower make the biggest difference.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 03:38 PM
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Great thanks. My upper and lowers are on their way over to me. I'll likely just go with poly inserts for the gearbox.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 10:45 AM
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i need to take a look at my lower to see how the condition is
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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use one of these bad boys...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-6-engine-torque-DAMPER-kit-SILVER-brand-new-/171254864530?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27df95da92&vxp=mtr
yes, only $20. i have one, it works great. im still on my oem mount with 112k on the clock. it really restricts engine movement, and should bolt right to your engine on one side and the frame on another.

its a bit tricky to install, but what isnt on the mini!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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so you put that ebay special on, with the upper motor mount oem? id also like to see some install pics of that
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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yes, thats it! i cant find any pics that ive taken already, but will take some for you.

i tried searching the web, but cant find any stock photos...
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Engine mounts


upper
22116778610 $96 22114046186 Lemforder 29901 01 $75 Febi 31861



lower 22116756406 $43 29903 01 $38
 
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by astroBlackMetallic_Mini
use one of these bad boys...

yes, only $20. i have one, it works great. im still on my oem mount with 112k on the clock. it really restricts engine movement, and should bolt right to your engine on one side and the frame on another.

its a bit tricky to install, but what isnt on the mini!

my 04 jcw had one of these devices on the upper mount when i bought it, which was apparently installed at ~25k (before I owned it) along with the 2nd OEM upper mount that has just now failed at 55k... i would argue that this mount damper doesn't do much if anything to support the longevity of the OEM upper mount... maybe my 55k failure is simply misfortune, or maybe your 112k is your good fortune!

the good news -- installed the Vibra Technics (road version) this past weekend and i agree with AudioNToxication, it is very well made, and it's certainly worth it, considering the car already had two OEM mounts fail. FYI, the damper device doesn't fit with the beefy Vibra Technics installed, but it won't need it anyhow.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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I went through 3 OEM mounts before I hit 110k miles. The first two lasted maybe 30k each. Then u put one of the tsw dampers on and the third lasted for the next 50k, but was on its way out when I installed the Vibra-technics. My lower was pretty trashed as well, good thing I popped for the lower at the same time.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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I changed the bottom to a BSH and the polyurethane transmission mount while the TWS upper is just laying around. the stock one is there right now and no problems. I am wondering if it is worth changing the upper one if the stock one still works.
AudioNToxication How long did your TSW last again?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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My tsw damper never died. The upper oem mount s on its way out though. If you did the other two mounts you are putting quite a lot of extra stress on the upper since the others don't want to move. I would whole heartedly stiffest the Vibra-technics upper. It works. My motor doesn't move. I don't notice the nvh anymore.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 04:52 AM
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Thanks audopMToxication I will change it this weekend then.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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Took pics. Finally posting.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Is that thing bolted to the belt tensioner? I would prefer the tsw top mount version of that's the case. Then save up and get the Vibra-technics.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 05:09 AM
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no, it bolts right to the engine block actually. its a pita to get the bolt tight, but you can do it with a large flathead screwdriver and a hammer; you hit the bottom edges of the bolt, tightens right up (also loosens too).

once you get the hang of it, you can take this thing off / on in under 5 minutes if you have to do servicing of the tensioner, or raise / lower the motor.

the key is to use the plate it comes with UNDER the frame so it spaces the damper away from the frame enough to keep it from hitting.

______ -frame
===> -plate
==( ) -damper
 
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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scary lookin haha
 
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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its just crappy ipad 2 pics.
so much easier to post via ipad than the forum, but the camera blows terribly; compromises are made in lieu of my laziness
 
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