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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:09 AM
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Eliminating powersteering?

The previous owner had replaced the power steering pump 10/30/13 so according to the dealer where it was done it has a warranty until 10/30/15. My question is WHEN/IF it fails again (assuming its after the warranty has expired) can we just eliminate powersteering all together with no negative effects (other than the steering wheel being heavy)
 

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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by daonlyillwiz
The previous owner had replaced the power steering pump 10/30/14 so according to the dealer where it was done it has a warranty until 10/30/16. My question is WHEN/IF it fails again (assuming its after the warranty has expired) can we just eliminate powersteering all together with no negative effects (other than the steering wheel being heavy)
Here you go

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rmanently.html
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:34 AM
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Exactly the answer i was looking for. Thanks alot.

If anyone else is considering this, a better alternative to just looping the lines is actually de-powering the rack. You dont need to send it out to do that and pay a ton of money and have downtime, you can do it yourself!!

I used the below link on my previous car and it was very easy.
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:57 AM
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Nice, thanks.... Are you planning on doing this now or wait until it fails?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Im just gonna wait until it fails, the only real benefits you get from this are weight savings AND better "feel" for the road.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by daonlyillwiz
Im just gonna wait until it fails, the only real benefits you get from this are weight savings AND better "feel" for the road.
I agree
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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Let's see if Silence will respond to a bumped query for his Power Steering Delete Block.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...10#post4078310

I've long been planning to do this, too.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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FYI the correct way to do it is to DE-power the rack itself and lube up the shaft with some good grease. Eventually whatever powersteering fluid in the rack will breakdown and its lubing properties will be degraded, so the best way is to take it a part and grease up the shaft (no pun intended).

ALSO if you choose to loop the lines the steering wheel will be harder to turn simply because the seal is still in the rack so you are trying to move fluid around when there is nowhere for it to go because the lines are looped which will result in some pressure which of course means resistance. By removing that seal in the rack you wont have this. Take a look at that link i posted, its very helpful.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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PS: The seal im referring to is found on pg 8 of the link i posted..
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Silence has replied & asked for the exact distance between the input & output banjo bolts of our steering rack. Can anyone respond precisely? Thanks.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...=1#post4078973
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:59 AM
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Silence needs a donor rack. Anyone got spare junk? Here's his reply:

Yes my delete will not work, but i know I can make something that will. I will need a rack to take measurements from. Do any of you have an old one you can send me? the cost would be similar to the e30 delete... possibly a fraction higher depending on the manufacturing process.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...=1#post4078973
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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I think he is over complicating the whole thing, just take it apart, cut the seal, lube it up and be done.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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I hope it's as simple as that, wiz, but I beg to disagree. Replacing the PS system w/ a loop is the ideal way.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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thats the easy and inefficient way. Llike i said by looping the lines there is still fluid in the rack and the seal is still in the rack, since thats the case and the lines are looped when you turn the steering wheel it will actually be harder with the seal in than with it out because you are trying to compress the fluid that has nowhere to go :(

Granted its A LOT OF WORK but the end result is totally worth it heh.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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But that would render this mod irreversible. silence's kit makes it a simple & reversible delete.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Thats true
 
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