Yeah the dyno time is 100 an hour for tuning... but like 80 for a baseline of three runs.

I just want to be more involved when it comes to tuning my vehicle. I worked Test Equipment Calibration for years as well as adjusting parameters within software for temperatures and gas flows as well as other things within reactors. If you dont get it right you either lose the company money or you kill everyone in the area.

 

In my city, all the local shops charge $90-100 for a baseline.

And I agree on the DIY strategy. I say always do it yourself unless the cost of failure is more than you can stomach.

 

Raven Mocker, where in the PNW do you live? Advanced Auto Fabrication in Spokane can handle all you need with Bytetronik.

 

A couple of things I'd like to add about getting a full range tune from the Bytetronik Team vs a WOT only dyno tune, even with all of my mods & the age of my motor I was still ably to just get in, start it & drive, just as if the car was stock, hell I think it actually ran smoother than when it was stock, since everything was tweaked to the exacts of how the motor worked instead of "one size fits all".
Plus I was still getting 27mpg avg everyday (and I don't drive easy, the car saw redline at least once every other day) and 30+ mpg hwy if I kept it under 70mph.

Don't forget in a racing application Dyno's are only to help speed up the tuning process so that racers didn't have to spend all that time, driving, adjusting, driving, adjusting, ask any of them "real world" is far more accurate, "real" strains on the motor & "real" temps and air flow.

 

Im in Boise, Id now.

But I can drive up to Spokane when the time comes.

 

I still have more things to add before doing the tune. One thing that gets me is many say get the JCW tune at the dealer because Ive already the injectors and other mods and yet I am not able to get a JCW tune at the dealer to compensate for some of the mods I have at this time. I will be adding exhaust work this coming month. But the Mini is going into the garage (more then likely) for winter project time to finish up many of the mods and upgrades I've been wanting to do for a while now. So the tune will come in the spring when the snow thaws and I can make it up to Spokane.

 

I want to be able to adjust my idle RPM, remove the 0-10% throttle response dead zone, be able to datalog and be able to read CEL codes. Can the FA-Lite do all this? If so, any Bytetronik love near the Portland area?

 

It just shows the shop up in Spokane Wa.

 

Cornerhugger had a Q I was curious about as well.

 

The only difference between FA53 and FA-Lite is the access of the maps (the remaining features are identical). You wouldn't be able to adjust the idle RPM on FA-Lite, but you can tell us your prefer idle RPM preference and we can set them for you and even make a two identical tunes with varying rpm idling points.

With FA-Lite, we can take care of your tune no matter where you are located... Dealers will only be able to use the FA53 to tune your MINI at this time.

 

Agreed.

 

What about using Bosch 550cc injectors with the FA-Lite Tuning Kit? What injectors do we use? I know I have the part number somewhere.

Also I was thinking about installing the Innovate OT-2 w/LC2 O2 Sensor rather then just an AFR kit.

 

I have changed my mind and will be doing the fa-lite and remote tune. Raven what persuaded you to use the Innovate sensor?

 

From what I can tell it will still give the same data as an Innovate AFR kit would but more so. So I just saw it as added information that I could use unless I am able to get this information on my own just as easy as I could using the FA-lite.

I would like to know what my engine is doing and be proactive in correcting any mistakes Ive made prior to them damaging anything.

 

Dont do it! If you are serious go full stand alone with ViPEC...

 

Dont do it? Why? How much more is a ViPEC system going to cost us?

 

Before we start the CRM session, we recommend all FA-Lite customers to practice logging their cars for one week to establish the base logs (prior to any changes)... this way, you can become familiar with the logging procedure as well as understanding the logs and what they represent. Attached are two logs from a current CRM customer nearing the completion of his Remote Mapping session... this is a 3rd gear WOT log.

The OT-2 is a good system but it utilizes logging via the CAN Bus; whereas FA-lite logs directly from the ecu at a much faster sampling rate. Same is true with DTC read and Clear; FA reads from the lower-level BMW codes so it can read "pending codes" that are not ordinarily visible using a normal hand-held scanner. The MTX-L kit that we sell to FA customers is $197 (which includes the serial logging cable), and that's much less than the OT-2's $349 price tag... with the built-in logging of FA, there isn't a need for the OT-2's logging; the extra $150 you save can be used towards future mods.

 

Ok so then are you saying that I can still read what my car is doing anytime I want or do I have to ask the tuner and pay them money before they let me see it? All the information is collected with your system.... Do we the consumer get the chance to look at what our vehicles are doing any time we have the urge to? Maybe we still are unable to make adjustments but it would be nice to be able to see what the injectors are doing at what rpm in what gear, etc....

Also not sure if you saw my other set of Q's.

 

Yes, you can "view", any of your logged data, current or past, at "anytime", it's only the adjustments that need to be addressed with Bytetrinik team.
The logging feature is not only a tuning tool, but a troubleshooting tool for your everyday use.

As far as the VIPEC, it is a good alternative system, esp. if you're making Monster power that starts to create issues with the OEM ECU & sensors, it's a "stand alone" replacement ECU, and any tuner can tune it. BUT, you'd better be serious about what you're doing, it's near 3k and is not OBD II complient, no more plug-n-play inspections, if that's what your state requires or may possibly require in the future.

 

Wow! 3K... I'd rather build a Mega squirt and use the money I save else where. Right now I just want something that works well and "compliments" my factory ECU. I might keep it this way if I like the set up as I have another Gen1 Mini on paper that will be running a Mega Squirt and be gutted out.

 

Seriously. MegaSquirt has a kickass community to back it as well.

 

Bytetronik's (BT) CRM service only support 3 types of injectors: OEM, JCW 380cc and the Bosch 550cc 6-hole (non-drilled out) injectors. If customers have the 400cc, 440cc, 450cc or Five-O drilled out 500cc injectors, we would not be able to provide CRM service on those.

As previously stated, the FA-Lite and FA53 are identical in features except for the ability to make changes to the tune (ecu mapping).

So quick recap on "FA-Lite" Tuning kit features:
1. Ability to make changes to ecu mappings = No
2. Ability to upload maps from BT tuners= Yes (on ecu with FA loaded)
3. Ability to data-log = Yes (on ecu with FA loaded)
4. Ability to read and clear DTC = Yes (on ANY R50/R52/53, even on non-FA vehicles.)
5. Ability to Clear Adaptations = Yes (on ANY R50/R52/53, even on non-FA vehicles.)

 

"EXACTLY!"

If I have issues I can find anyone from any community to help me with it.

And btw.... I was in another thread a few days ago and this whole ricer thing is just phawking stupid.... First of all ricers did not even begin this whole thing..... Volkswagen did.

 

Actually its the Bosch 550cc 6 hole part number Im looking for still. I had written it down from another source. If you choose to keep that under marketing sources and not reveal part numbers I understand. No biggie.