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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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if its not to much trouble anyone who has achieved 250 or above please tell me what you did so i can get an idea of the paths i can take and the parts i can buy. so far i have a 15% reduced pulley, cai, headers, test pipe, and cat back on my mini. at the moment im lookin at buyin an intercooler and i dont know if i should go with water to air or air to air.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Crank or wheel hp? How much are you willing to spend?

Its doable but will be expensive. Head cam and tune will be next and should put you around 250 at the crank.

Aldo gonna be about 3-4k

Yo get that at the wheels you will need to upgrade the turbo.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Crank or wheel hp? How much are you willing to spend?

Its doable but will be expensive. Head cam and tune will be next and should put you around 250 at the crank.

Aldo gonna be about 3-4k

Yo get that at the wheels you will need to upgrade the turbo.
Oops your aupercharged. Sprintex charger than instead of turbo lol
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Just asking, but why?

The Mini is NEVER going to be a fast car. That's not what it's about.

Having a 250 rwhp Mini is like taking a $2000 hooker to the prom. Yes, you can do it, but there're much better uses...lol
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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I disagree with richardsperry!!
the Mini S is a fairly fast car. I believe advertised at 14.6 in 1/4 mile. If you are old enough to remember the GTO's 442's roadrunners and other muscle cars from the 60's and 70's that is what they ran in the 1/4 mile with big V8 that got 10 miles to the gallon. Been there, done that and still have one. And they did not handle like the MINI. I would never give up my big V8's but the MINI is a fairly fast car in todays market.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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I disagree with richardsperry!!
the Mini S is a fairly fast car. I believe advertised at 14.6 in 1/4 mile. If you are old enough to remember the GTO's 442's roadrunners and other muscle cars from the 60's and 70's that is what they ran in the 1/4 mile with big V8 that got 10 miles to the gallon. Been there, done that and still have one. And they did not handle like the MINI. I would never give up my big V8's but the MINI is a fairly fast car in todays market.
Agreed! The MINI S is a pretty quick car. I've kept up with a lot of cars that you wouldn't think. The first gen (in america) STI and Evo's ran in the low 14's. I had a wrx with some mods that ran high 14's. People take what they love (speed) and combine it with one of the coolest cars you can buy It makes total sense!!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Anyone who tells you 250 is pointless in a mini clearly has never owned a mini with that kind of power.
its not pointless at all.
I make more than that and can use my car like a normal car.
Plus i did not need a sprintex nor would i recommend one.
RMW Head, header/cam injectors and tune. Done. Theirs plenty of people that have that combo and its worked out great.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pdubb

Agreed! The MINI S is a pretty quick car. I've kept up with a lot of cars that you wouldn't think. The first gen (in america) STI and Evo's ran in the low 14's. I had a wrx with some mods that ran high 14's. People take what they love (speed) and combine it with one of the coolest cars you can buy It makes total sense!!
Stock quarter mile on a first gen sti (us) is 13.5.
R53 is 15.2.....

The mini is a fun car and is decently quick. But to make big hp numbers its very expensive.

And no offense colin buy i would like to see a mod list and proof of your 250whp
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 04:52 AM
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Feel free to disagree with me all you want. I stand by my statement.

I don't know where you all live, but here in Md with the temp in the 30's and 40's, there just isn't any traction with the 195-16" snow tires. lol

And for about what you have to spend to get to 250+ whp in a Mini, you could probably buy an older Mustang or Camaro, mod it a bit, and make passes in the 12's or lower. Then you still have a Mini that goes around corners. (but you would need someone to drive the drag car home...lol)

In fact, I'm seriously considering removing the RMW tune for the winter. It's probably better not to be tempted.
 

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Originally Posted by richardsperry
Feel free to disagree with me all you want. I stand by my statement.

I don't know where you all live, but here in Md with the temp in the 30's and 40's, there just isn't any traction with the 195-16" snow tires. lol

And for about what you have to spend to get to 250+ rwhp in a Mini, you could probably buy an older Mustang or Camaro, mod it a bit, and make passes in the 12's or lower. Then you still have a Mini that goes around corners. (but you would need someone to drive the drag car home...lol)

In fact, I'm seriously considering removing the RMW tune for the winter. It's probably better not to be tempted.
Your MINI has RWHP?! how?! I want RWD
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by richardsperry
Feel free to disagree with me all you want. I stand by my statement.

I don't know where you all live, but here in Md with the temp in the 30's and 40's, there just isn't any traction with the 195-16" snow tires. lol

And for about what you have to spend to get to 250+ whp in a Mini, you could probably buy an older Mustang or Camaro, mod it a bit, and make passes in the 12's or lower. Then you still have a Mini that goes around corners. (but you would need someone to drive the drag car home...lol)

In fact, I'm seriously considering removing the RMW tune for the winter. It's probably better not to be tempted.

it would cost 7,699.00 + tax to get a mini to 265hp. and yeah i understand what your sayin about traction i live in washington, and its nearly impossible for me to not spin at stoplights most of the time because of the rain. im honestly happy with my car where it is and im guess its between 210 and 215. i want 250hp just to say i have it, sounds very stupid i know. its just something i want though. thank you for your imput though.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Anyone who tells you 250 is pointless in a mini clearly has never owned a mini with that kind of power.
its not pointless at all.
I make more than that and can use my car like a normal car.
Plus i did not need a sprintex nor would i recommend one.
RMW Head, header/cam injectors and tune. Done. Theirs plenty of people that have that combo and its worked out great.
hey thanks for your reply. i dont think ive ever heard of the RMW, i spent forever lookin for the head i want. ill look into that one.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by richardsperry
Just asking, but why?

The Mini is NEVER going to be a fast car. That's not what it's about.

Having a 250 rwhp Mini is like taking a $2000 hooker to the prom. Yes, you can do it, but there're much better uses...lol
i want all the horsepower just to say i do. and i cant agree with you that a mini will never be fast.
http://youtu.be/vyCNAYwrmw0
you should probably check out the video and then make that comment, but make sure you watch it all the way through so you can see its standings and how it came in 2nd in a race against some of the most prestigious manufacturers in the industry.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ColinGreene
Anyone who tells you 250 is pointless in a mini clearly has never owned a mini with that kind of power.
its not pointless at all.
I make more than that and can use my car like a normal car.
Plus i did not need a sprintex nor would i recommend one.
RMW Head, header/cam injectors and tune. Done. Theirs plenty of people that have that combo and its worked out great.
100% AGREE!!! I have that combo minus the head and am a little over 250 at the crank right now. Very usable power and makes the Mini a blast! BVH to take it to the next level and still very streetable!

I must second against the Sprintex, it's just not needed to make big power. Also, unless the car is tracked, I wouldn't spend more for an intercooler as the OEM has a quick recovery time.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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To those with a lack of traction, you need to learn how to modulate the throttle! You can't expect to not spin the tires from a stop in a high powered FWD car, particularly not on snow tires!!! I've beat a stock EVO X to from 65-130 , my car is dead even with late model (pre 2011) Mustang GT's, and I don't think anyone has ever accused those of being slow! Oh, and they too have traction issues from a dig!
 

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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Plus i did not need a sprintex nor would i recommend one."
Why do you not recommend a Sprintex supercharger? I know little about this supercharger, regarding power vs. stock supercharger, and especially regarding longevity/durability.

If you have information on these topics, or threads to redirect us to, please share.

As my '04 MCS gets on in years and mileage, I've pondered, "what would I do if my supercharger needed replacement, an OEM stock replacement, or spring for the Sprintex?"

The higher power numbers promoted by Sprintex begin to sound appealing, but more information would be nice... Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by richardsperry
Feel free to disagree with me all you want. I stand by my statement.

I don't know where you all live, but here in Md with the temp in the 30's and 40's, there just isn't any traction with the 195-16" snow tires. lol

And for about what you have to spend to get to 250+ whp in a Mini, you could probably buy an older Mustang or Camaro, mod it a bit, and make passes in the 12's or lower. Then you still have a Mini that goes around corners. (but you would need someone to drive the drag car home...lol)

In fact, I'm seriously considering removing the RMW tune for the winter. It's probably better not to be tempted.
Traction is a valid concern but if you're aiming for 250 hp then you shouldn't be on winter tires anyway. If you need them for the winter season (if you DD said 250 hp MINI) then you just have to accept the fact that, regardless of if you make big power or not, you're not going to be able to drive it the same as you would with sticky summer tires.

My R53 dyno'd at 194 WHP and it feels very quick. I agree that the point of owning a MINI is not to have a super quick straight line car, but to say that a 250 HP MINI will never be fast is a little far fetched (in my opinion).
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mastertrixter
Stock quarter mile on a first gen sti (us) is 13.5.
R53 is 15.2.....

The mini is a fun car and is decently quick. But to make big hp numbers its very expensive.
low 14's high 13's.... close enough. You don't need to make huge HP to make it fast. And I wasn't saying the MINI is faster than an STi, just that it isn't slow.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Sorry Mis quoted the torque number its on another sheet that im too lazy to find,
so im off by 2 shoot me

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...11-post34.html

I had at the time
a RMW Short header
RMW head RMW race cam
15% pulley
450 injectors
and a stock ecu tune.
I don't have traction issues.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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As far as why not to the sprintex last two posts are optimized M45 cars they make pretty good power. really as much as you need.
and its still going to be cheaper to buy a replacement M45 from the dealer at 1500 than it would be to get a Sprintex for around 3k i think it is.
And the M45 has a track record of working long term.
Sprintex is new, id wait it out.
 
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Originally Posted by davisflyer
I must second against the Sprintex, it's just not needed to make big power. Also, unless the car is tracked, I wouldn't spend more for an intercooler as the OEM has a quick recovery time.
Agreed

Originally Posted by jonnieoh
Why do you not recommend a Sprintex supercharger? I know little about this supercharger, regarding power vs. stock supercharger, and especially regarding longevity/durability.

If you have information on these topics, or threads to redirect us to, please share.

As my '04 MCS gets on in years and mileage, I've pondered, "what would I do if my supercharger needed replacement, an OEM stock replacement, or spring for the Sprintex?"

The higher power numbers promoted by Sprintex begin to sound appealing, but more information would be nice... Thanks!
I agree where are all these sprintex cars? They claim they've sold a ton. And the power numbers? I've seen a few but seen more reports of broken MINI's than numbers.

Originally Posted by ColinGreene
As far as why not to the sprintex last two posts are optimized M45 cars they make pretty good power. really as much as you need.
and its still going to be cheaper to buy a replacement M45 from the dealer at 1500 than it would be to get a Sprintex for around 3k i think it is.
And the M45 has a track record of working long term.
Sprintex is new, id wait it out.
I have a sprintex kit here, but not planning on putting it on my car. If I do I'll put about $3000 in redesign to do it.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ColinGreene
Sorry Mis quoted the torque number its on another sheet that im too lazy to find,
so im off by 2 shoot me

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...11-post34.html

I had at the time
a RMW Short header
RMW head RMW race cam
15% pulley
450 injectors
and a stock ecu tune.
I don't have traction issues.
Im honestly impressed. Hope mine can put down numbers like that with just head and cam added lol.
 
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