Would be grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of an online retailer that stocks these. Already tried Motoringwerks, so any others please.

Thanks.

 

You could try directly from them:
http://www.okadaprojects.com/usa/applications.htm

MINI Mania has them on their site, but a bit more expensive:
http://new.minimania.com/part/G2NME3...6-57-Cooper--S

I'd love to hear how well they work. I read a write up that David Vizard did (a great author, read all of his stuff, and no, i'm not him ) on a 3V 4.6L Mustang engine and he was impressed with the results for just a coil swap. If I can find it I will add it, maybe a little extra encouragement to drop $600 on some coils!

 

My friend has it in the shops E36 M3 and it is amazing. They we're having issues with the car before the plasma packs and after the install, it fixed their problems. I would get it.

 

They are expensive though.

 

http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f272...tml#post479288

 

Also if you go to Modified Mag they did a test of these on STi a few years back and found out that they are legit. Don't remember the numbers though.

 

Cheers everyone. Seems like a worthwhile upgrade. Ordered from Minimania. Waiting for the postie to come. Lets hope he knows where Taiwan is!

 

Nice. Very few have the coils. Good job mate on the splurge!

 

Sorry to revive an old thread but what benefits are there from plasma coils?

 

The best benefit is they make it easy to drain your wallet. LMAO

 

Better ignition spark for more powa! Meaning it will burn more of the fuel. POWWWWWAAAAA!!!!!!!!

 

OIn general, i think for the $$ There are many more mods that get better bang for the buck....but when the simple mods are done, and you have $$ in your wallet, you could give these a try.
My question...if you spend $500 about 3 hp....is it worth it unless you have a very higly modified car? But they are simple to install...and i guess if yours are "tired"(having misfires at high rpms/loads with lots of miles...(typical coil failure as opposed to just "going dead") it reduces the spread from new oem to these....

 

The are really no "bang for the buck" mods for the R56. The only real ones for making you car go faster are weight savings which is normally free and a tune. Other than that everything on these cars coast money.

 

My thought on these is I think the people who need and buy these are people who aren't getting enough spark from the factory coils in the high high rpm's where these can do the job, not really to just make added power. Below was a great review and write up from a GTI owner


Plasma Direct Ignition coils by Okada Projects.

Why?

There is quite a few reasons for getting upgraded coils and some reasons might be more applicable to some than others. To start off with it may help to understand what they do and why they are different from normal OEM coilpacks.

From Okada Projects:

"The Plasma Direct is an ignition coil with a built-in high-power amplifier. The Plasma Direct Coils produce 4 times more spark energy than stock coils, and generate an ultra-fast multi-spark-discharge of 10 sparks up to highest RPM.

The spark amperage is increased by 100%, allowing the spark to reach many more molecules, which therefore accelerates the ignition and combustion processes. This is extremely important in forced induction applications, but also improves the performance of normally aspirated engines."

So in short the idea is the ignition strength is increased and can improve better ignition. A common fault is coilpacks getting tired and creating misfires as they age. After speaking with Plasma Projects (main EU distributor) they have said the life of the coilpacks should increase by some margin and they have seen their coilpacks being sold and working 8-10 years on!

The main reason I have got them is to increase engine performance, hopefully to increase MPG, to increase the looks of the engine bay and also to help starting of the 2.0TFSI which in colder conditions is an issue.

As part of this test and review I will be getting my stage 2 2.0tfsi on a dyno and will be testing the difference between OEM and Plasma direct ignition coils. This way there is a subjective review to the gains instead of being less accurate with just a personal opinion.

Now some pictures:






Sourcing
I am a reseller of Okada projects ignition line and so got these at trade price. I am not doing this review to sell the items but to show the gains in a subjective way.


Fitting

This was very straight forward and any one could do this with a little bit of patience. Quite simply the coils are connected to a joined cable with a hard plastic sheath as you can see in the pictures. The plastic connectors simple pull away from the coil packs and when all are free they individually pull out. This may take a little bit of muscle to pull them out but in all it should take around 5 minutes if you already have the engine cover off. If you do have the older airbox style engine cover it will take more time to disassemble.


Other versions
To my knowledge these are a bit unique and nothing else is on the market with the same sort of technology. The only alternative is a OE or OEM coil pack but do not offer the same way of creating a spark.


Plus Points

So far I haven't yet dyno'd the car with both OEM and upgraded coilpacks but will post up when this is done. Also I am yet to do a long run on the car since fitting so cannot give a proper, accurate assessment of performance and MPG.

- Starting the car seems easier than normal and I don't seem to have any hesitations at all when turning the key.
- They look great and make a nice addition to the engine bay
- Performance. This will be officially measured instead of just taking my word for it. However now the engine seems to pull smoother in the higher rev range.
- MPG. I will post up when I know for sure what the case is. Before changing over I regularly get 36-37 MPG on motorways cruising at around 70-75MPH and around 24MPG around town. Now I seem to be getting 28MPG around town but I will not take this as a accurate test as there is too many variables.
- Potential of opening more mapping possibilities with a better spark? Will be looking into it.
- Smoother idle. The engine seems to tick over more smoothly and could potentially help the health of the engine out more.
- Each Coil is hand made
- Each Coil is tested before sending out
- Extremely high quality materials used for better heat handling capabilities
- Outlasting OEM coil packs many many times over. In some cases the coil packs are still performing strong 8-10 years later!


Minus Points

Without beating around the bush these are pricey at a RRP of around £575 for a set. Other than that I cannot think of a minus point.


Summary

In my opinion I would like to think the benefits outweigh the price. When tuning an engine I would like to know that I have every angle covered and if the engine is going to be healthier as a result while increasing performance then this should be a no-brainer choice. Is there a gain in performance? I will be finding out soon, but ultimately you have to relate back to the performance gains for the money you spend. If you spend £400 on an induction kit and gain 10bhp or £1,000 on a full exhaust system and gain 10-15bhp then spending £500-600 and getting similar gain would prove good value for money. Hopefully I can get some proper subjective evidence with my K03 turbo engine and maybe another 2.0tfsi with a bigger turbo, a K04 for example.

Hope you enjoyed the read and found this helped in some ways

UPDATED WITH THE DYNO RESULTS

As promised guys here is the dyno results and write up for the Okada coils on my 2.0tfsi TT on stage 2 revo software.

Current engine set-up: Blueflame 3" TBE with racing cat, ITG enclosed intake, Upgraded DV, Neuspeed Power pulley, Neuspeed intercooler to throttle body pipe, NGK Iridium BKR7EIX plugs, Revo Stage 2 and of course the OEM and Plasma direct coils.

So what I wanted this test to be about is to see what the difference is between the OEM coils and the Plasma direct coils (hereby will be called PD coils). I took the opportunity to test other potential mapping settings and altered the AFR mixture and also timing while logging the runs but kept the boost setting the same throughout.

In total I did about 25-26 runs on the dyno and played around with the settings a fair amount. The temperature was reading 29 degrees in the dyno room as managed to pick a nice hot day to do the runs on! Heatsoak was a little bit of an issue so the results are taken from the same point on a set of runs to keep the best accuracy. It seemed generally the case that the first run was giving slightly better results and started to trail off on the 3rd and 4th consecutive run. Power figures in general are going to be a good 10bhp less than a good cool day as the temperature for a standard intercooler was a little stressing.

So away with some of the runs. To start off with we tested the Okada coils as a baseline on settings: Boost 6, Timing 4, AFR 8. Timing pull was coming up at about 2.3 and 3 on some cylinders which seemed it was pretty well set-up timing wise. The AFR looked healthy and the turbo giving a good 1.35-1.4 Bar. Peak BHP was 259.1BHP.

After a set of runs and logging the first thing adjusted was the AFR mixture to a level which Jim at JKM believed would give enough of a result to see on the dyno. The settings we went with was B6 T4 AFR4. From looking at the runs it was quite clear this was far too rich and seemed to only give a better graph power curve at the very latter part of the RPM range, the first 2/3rd's of the rpm range was quite down. Peak BHP was measured at 251.7BHP

The next run was changing the AFR back to 8 as this seemed to look best on the logging and on the dyno graph too. The timing was altered to retard as it would be a little dangerous to advance timing looking at the knock logs. This test is to see how the PD coils work with retarding the ignition, settings were set to B6 T2 AFR8. The peak power came out at 252.1BHP, it seemed a similar story with going richer on the AFR and that the early part of the power curve was down.

After these runs the settings were set back to B6 T4 AFR8 and run again to see how the temperature had changed and to create another baseline before immediately changing the coils. The peak power came back to 258.7BHP and seemed much stronger than any other settings. It seems the settings previously set-up on the car work the best and the PD coils didn't respond to changing the AFR or retarding the ignition. Not a huge surprise but shows how the power can affected by changing the settings.

Graph of the 258.7BHP run-


Next is on with the OEM coils and keeping the same map settings (B6 T4 AFR8). The peak power came out with 256.5BHP which was the best curve by some margin, the other 5-6 runs came out with a similar peak but not as high power on the curve throughout.

The next graph is comparing the Okada PD and OEM coils on the same graph. Red is PD and Blue OEM.




I decided to take the next best OEM coils run compared to a run on the Okada PD at the same point. Red is PD and Blue OEM.





The Max BHP listed on the top of the graph is not the overall BHP but the BHP of the last run which was the OEM coils in both graphs. It's hard to take a complete definitive result on the early part of the RPM range and the power and performance of what both coils give. You can see on one graph the OEM has a stronger curve up to around 5,000 RPM but on the other graph the PD coils seems to be stronger over the entire curve.

It would seem that there is a common theme in the PD coils being able to keep a higher power figure over the last 1,000 RPM whereas the OEM seem to struggle a little more.

Conclusion

It would seem that both the OEM and PD coils react in a similar way when it comes to variations on mapping and have logs that look and read almost the same. I am undecided on whether the PD coil has a definitive gain over the majority of the RPM range, unfortunately it's not clear which one is better as different runs show they out do each other. Apart from 1 run on the OEM the Okada coil seemed to be stronger over the entire curve as shown in the 3rd graph. However it does seem the PD coil always had one over the OEM coil when it came down to the end of the RPM range and at times seems to hold another 10BHP over the OEM coil.

I would like to think I did this test as fair as possible. The results were taken within 20 minutes of each other (changing the coils), so the ambient temps were the same. The graphs were taken of the runs at the same point in each "session". The car was putting more power out first thing but this was not a fair test as the OEM coils were put on an hour and a half later so I took the last run before the OEM coils.

Do the PD coils give a gain? Answer would seem yes about 2.5 BHP more peak, they seem to hold the power for longer in the latter RPM range. And at times out do the OEM over the entire RPM range.
Was my 2.0tfsi the best test for these? Maybe. My 2.0tfsi was running a standard intercooler and fuel pump which meant it was not running near it's potential. I will go an get the next couple hardware mods sorted out with a stage 2+ remap and will do another back to back with the coils to see whether this would justify getting the PD coils more on a K03 turbo'd 2.0tfsi.

So what's next? In all honesty I would love to try these out on a higher powered engine as the demand for a higher spark is needed. The standard 2.0tfsi coils seem to do a good job and I think they start to get stressed on a K04 rather than a K03.

I would like to think they are a justifiable cost and if they outlast the OEM by 3-4 times then really they would be. Power wise they have given gains and possible more on a higher state of tune. MPG seems to be around 39 so maybe a 2MPG gain, I haven't done enough driving to say for certain and a 2MPG over only 400 miles of running is not clear enough to say for certain.

Hope you enjoyed the read

 

Since the reviewer did about "28"dyno runs and is a reseller....and best he could say is about 2.5 hp, and the stock is stronger in the midrange...ouch!! Sounds like he was trying real hard to like them...

 

Zippy, I thought of you when posting this. There are only 2 solid reviews on the supposed amazing power gains and lots reviews on numerous forums of small gains like this review. The only thing they all have in common is that the help an idle problem or hesitations. But the idle problems and hesitations at various RPM's all had one thing in common. They sounded like they needed new coils anyway.

 

Anyone out there who has the IP upgraded coils who wants to update on their experience?