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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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DIY "ram air" scoop attachment

I wanted to use my scoop for something other than looks... so I got 2 sheets of 26 gauge sheet metal and I fashioned a "ram air" scoop attachment like a lot of different companies sell. I just couldn't see spending over $200 for their versions of essentially the same thing! I did this in about 2 hours with hand snippers and a ruler, so it is not perfectly straight. Seeing as my hood spends most of its time closed, I don't really care. I will pop it off and spray paint it black within the next couple weeks. Anyways, just thought I'd share!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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I like your idea of fabricating it yourself but if you’re going to fabricate something, why not make this?



At least this part would have some function (keeping the turbo cooler)

Unfortunately, your car is fuel injected and you can’t ram air into a closed system... it simply doesn’t work on a fuel injected car.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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I like it!

It will help keep your intake temps down, but that's about it. You could probably cut a hole in the front of it and attach something like Mark posted too.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
I like your idea of fabricating it yourself but if you’re going to fabricate something, why not make this?



At least this part would have some function (keeping the turbo cooler)

Unfortunately, your car is fuel injected and you can’t ram air into a closed system... it simply doesn’t work on a fuel injected car.

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that would be WAY easier to make than what I did! so does this divert the air down from the scoop over the turbo?

and yea I know about the whole FI ram air thing, hence the quotes in my title... because really the turbo controls the air intake anyway... I just wanted fresh air getting to my filter.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Anybody have Any pics of this installed?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by uhhmoney
I wanted to use my scoop for something other than looks... so I got 2 sheets of 26 gauge sheet metal and I fashioned a "ram air" scoop attachment like a lot of different companies sell. I just couldn't see spending over $200 for their versions of essentially the same thing! I did this in about 2 hours with hand snippers and a ruler, so it is not perfectly straight. Seeing as my hood spends most of its time closed, I don't really care. I will pop it off and spray paint it black within the next couple weeks. Anyways, just thought I'd share!
Great job!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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so does this divert the air down from the scoop over the turbo? .
Yes, it cools the turbo (which is very much needed)

I’ve tried to order a few times and for some reason, my credit card won’t allow me to charge overseas.


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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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With the OEM intake, I admit this thing have not much utility, but with some CAI (like the alta) that take air right there, this instalation can be useful...

Now, wich one is better ? Air ram with CAI or turbo cooling........
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
I like your idea of fabricating it yourself but if you’re going to fabricate something, why not make this?



At least this part would have some function (keeping the turbo cooler)

Unfortunately, your car is fuel injected and you can’t ram air into a closed system... it simply doesn’t work on a fuel injected car.

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i was thinking this exact same thing, i might try something like that this weekend. ill post pics of what I come up with. Does anyone know the dimensions of that?
 
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Originally Posted by desiletspo
With the OEM intake, I admit this thing have not much utility, but with some CAI (like the alta) that take air right there, this instalation can be useful...

Now, wich one is better ? Air ram with CAI or turbo cooling........
well for those of us with the stock intake or DOS, the only option to go with would be turbo cooling lol
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
I like your idea of fabricating it yourself but if you’re going to fabricate something, why not make this?



At least this part would have some function (keeping the turbo cooler)

Unfortunately, your car is fuel injected and you can’t ram air into a closed system... it simply doesn’t work on a fuel injected car.

Mark
I bought one of these and haven't figured out how to get it on the car.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Looks like it bolts to the heatshield?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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No it bolts to the hood, the top underside of the scoop.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
I bought one of these and haven't figured out how to get it on the car.
Maybe it only works with the vented hood scoop that the challenge cars run now?

http://www.minigenuineparts.co.uk/mi...engeScoop.html
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Oh now I understand your question, yes if your scoop is not vented then you need to remove the black plug, plugging up your scoop. I have been running without that thing for 50k and no issues so far, except a cooler engine bay.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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To the op, nice job.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drewstermalloy
Maybe it only works with the vented hood scoop that the challenge cars run now?

http://www.minigenuineparts.co.uk/mi...engeScoop.html
That is incorrect as they had them before the ventilated scoop. I will fit but I don't know how to secure it.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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I see a big problem. The dirty air comes through the snorkel on the bottom of the filter. The top side is supposed to be clean air. The ram looks like it is cut into the clean side of the filter housing so now dirt just goes straight through into the engine. If it has a cone filter inside the box then I am wrong. But if it is a panel filter like my JCW then we have a problem
 
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No such thing as "ram" air on a turbo car, Good fab though!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smoke05S
I see a big problem. The dirty air comes through the snorkel on the bottom of the filter. The top side is supposed to be clean air. The ram looks like it is cut into the clean side of the filter housing so now dirt just goes straight through into the engine. If it has a cone filter inside the box then I am wrong. But if it is a panel filter like my JCW then we have a problem
Cone filter. Wanted to hear the BOV but didn't want to be sucking in all that hot air. There isn't a heat shield in this picture so at this point it wasn't very good, but a 90degree pipe and an insulated shield solved the heatsoak problem. I don't have this specific MINI anymore, though.


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No such thing as "ram" air on a turbo car, Good fab though!
Hence the quotes on "ram air."
 

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I finally got around to installing the scoop. BTW it mounts different on the newer hoods. You have to notch it out.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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BTW cone filters like that actually lose you power.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
BTW cone filters like that actually lose you power.
sucking hot air causes a loss of power, but that is why I fashioned that box to draw the fresh cool air from the scoop.

it was a rough draft and obviously needed more work, but the point was just a proof of concept. an aerogel heat shield over the turbo plus the above mentioned mods made this a pretty viable homemade solution.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Is this "hot air" vs "cold air" debate really about to happen again? You guys know for our cars it really doesn't matter.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Pod filter busted

Cold Air kind of busted
 
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