We are prototyping a CO2 Spray Kit. We are making the spray bar large enough to fit the Mini Cooper S Intercooler, and are also working on a remote soleniod to allow for an easy mounting solution.

Here are some picture of the ket as it is now. We are going to be installing this kit tomorrow to see how every thing fits, but will probably not use it as the high tomorrow is going to be 16... BRRR!!!!



What types of features to you want to see in this product besides what we have mentioned.?

Thanks,
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

that is interesting and looks just like this.





designengineering.com/
all from $300 - $450 from various suppliers on the web. It tried to be a big thing with the Subaru crowd.
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West Coast Coopers

 

Same Idea, but Being designed specifically for the mini, not being adapted to it.

Thanks,
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Looks like NOS!

 

Designed Specifically, that's funny.

The DEI kits have multiple sprayers available.

the smaller sprayer fits the intercooler perfectly from what I've read.

Isn't there someone on this site who's actually done it?

Bisch I believe, from the previous discussion regarding CryO2.

Cost vs Benefit = ?

Plenty of Luck to Ya Buddy, I don't think the mini community is that stupid, but I could be wrong.

http://www.westcoastcoopers.com

 

ive got one the same that bisch has it works really well in the summer. the only problem is that the co2 can get into your intake which is no good.

 

how is it no good?

They make a unit that cools the air in the intake...

I'd worry about condensation.
Also, using N2O is not going to give you more than a thinner wallet, keep it at CryO2.

 

We are not using N2O, as the Post topic states, this is a prototype, and we are under evaluation. The Bottle will be used with CO2 as the other one is. We are igoing to be testing this to see how it performs. There are 2 different sprayers, large and small. We have the ability for custom bent sprayers, in any shape/size that you desire.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Just for people interested in what differences our kit has to provide.

We use a 10 lb bottle vs a 5lb that cryo is using
We are custom making the spray bar to the dimensions of the Intercooler
and the price will still be less.
Our components will also be compatible with there's for people that want the extra parts.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with, Dan; keep us posted. Best wishes! :smile:

 

>>Designed Specifically, that's funny.
>>Plenty of Luck to Ya Buddy, I don't think the mini community is that stupid, but I could be wrong.


Dude, give Dan and his company a chance he said CO2 sprayer it was in the prototype stage. That mean is not ready for primetime = not ready for bashing. So let's hold off and see what evolves.


Cheers

 

Dan,

There are two things I would like to see.

First, would be a larger one to also fit the new larger Alta Intercooler. Second, some design or mechanism element to prevent it being sucked into the intake. I know that Bisch had a problem with this and it really stunk. Not sure if he has solved this.

I am really looking forward to this.

 

>>Dan,
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>>There are two things I would like to see.
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>>First, would be a larger one to also fit the new larger Alta Intercooler. Second, some design or mechanism element to prevent it being sucked into the intake. I know that Bisch had a problem with this and it really stunk. Not sure if he has solved this.
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>>I am really looking forward to this.

The Good News, is that I can have any size sprayer made. It would fit the larger Intercooler, or the standard Intercooler.

Second, is also being worked on... Muhahahaha.... Give me some time fo finished it before I release the pictures.

Last.

I just verified that the bottle that I am using is indeed certified for CO2. for anyone interested it is a 1800PSI Aluminum Construction Luquid Gas Cylinder. I am also going to be able to provide an adapte to those that need to allow it to be filled at any CO2 Filling Area. It will convert from the Bottle, to the Standard CO2 Fitting.

Am going to attempt to install, it's a high of 16 degrees right now.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

>>Designed Specifically, that's funny.
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>>The DEI kits have multiple sprayers available.
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>>the smaller sprayer fits the intercooler perfectly from what I've read.
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>>Isn't there someone on this site who's actually done it?
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>>Bisch I believe, from the previous discussion regarding CryO2.
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>>Cost vs Benefit = ?
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>>Plenty of Luck to Ya Buddy, I don't think the mini community is that stupid, but I could be wrong.
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>>http://www.westcoastcoopers.com
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>>
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Just to let you know, there are companies that use Nitrous for intercooler spraying. Here is an example. Though our Kit uses CO2, it is possible to use N20

www.nitrousexpress.com/welcome.htm

Thanks,
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Do cryogenic temperatures compomise the rubber seals on the inlets and outlets of the intercooler?


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Cheese

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WestCoastCoopers,

What do you mean by the Mini Community being stupid? The DEI unit is not a perfect fit in our Mini. Bisch, had to do some work to get all his components to fit, and he had some problems with the CO2 getting into the intake and bogging it down. If Dan can get that working it would be great and make it a few steps above the DEI.

The CO2 can make a big difference and also looks really cool coming out of the "snout" of our Mini. Dan builds excellent quality products, stands behind them, has a strong interest in our Mini community, and has excellent customer service. His prices have always been below other people's products. So if Dan can get this out with the same quality and price point that he has done in the past, I think it will be a great product. It obviously may not be for everyone, which is fine, but I don't think if it sells that it will be because the Mini Community is stupid.

 

Cheese -

The CO2 is sprayed at a pont after the air has left the supercharger, and is heated up. There will be no effect on the supercharger seals because of this fact.

zweda..

Thanks for the compliments. I spend more time working on the car and reading about the car then most people, I research everything, then work on what I think will help my car. Once I find out if it helps MY car, I then make it into a viable product that can compete with anything out there, and even lower in price.

This kit I have researched for a long time, and finally found a manufacturer. I am working out all the little bits, like what type of vavle adapter is needed to allow this to get filled at any place that sells CO2. (oh, CO2 is about 22 dollars for 10 lbs for those that are interested) I have mounted the spray bar tonight and it fits great, I just need a couple little fitting, and to pick up the CO2 bottle on tuesday (they were closing as I got there, so I can pick up later on) I will work on the intake portion to protect it from the CO2 tomorrow. I'll keep you all updated.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Some people might like it more and complain less if it had a few blinking LED lights

I think this would be a neat mod for those that suffer from severe heat-soak in Southern climates, or those that want to keep boost pressure up and intake temp down as much as possible.

 

>>The CO2 can make a big difference and also looks really cool coming out of the "snout" of our Mini. Dan builds excellent quality products, stands behind them, has a strong interest in our Mini community, and has excellent customer service. His prices have always been below other people's products. So if Dan can get this out with the same quality and price point that he has done in the past, I think it will be a great product. It obviously may not be for everyone, which is fine, but I don't think if it sells that it will be because the Mini Community is stupid.

I agree ... One question that stands out if the cooling method is spraying CO2 on the intercooler, what is being done to prevent excess CO2 from from being sucked in by the cold air intakes most perfromance minded mini cooper owners have installed. After all CO2 make a great fire extinguisher ... maybe Dan can add a setting to the valva to do a full release (fire extiguisher style) in case your engine catches fire

 

>>Cheese -
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>>The CO2 is sprayed at a pont after the air has left the supercharger, and is heated up. There will be no effect on the supercharger seals because of this fact.


Intercooler, not supercharger :smile: Does it have a blowdown tube? It'll be a required part in the mini.


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>>>>Cheese -
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>>>>The CO2 is sprayed at a pont after the air has left the supercharger, and is heated up. There will be no effect on the supercharger seals because of this fact.
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>>Intercooler, not supercharger :smile:
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Yes ... I should have read the post twice for spelling and gramar mistakes ... sorry ... Intercooler!!!!

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>>>>>>Cheese -
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>>>>>>The CO2 is sprayed at a pont after the air has left the supercharger, and is heated up. There will be no effect on the supercharger seals because of this fact.
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>>>>Intercooler, not supercharger :smile:
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>>Yes ... I should have read the post twice for spelling and gramar mistakes ... sorry ... Intercooler!!!!
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Cheese, Sorry about that. Regarding the Rubber, the CO2 is sprayed on the center of the intercooler away from the Edges. The air will be chilled, but will not be so chilled that it will cause any problems with the rubber. I will take pictures tomorrow of the spray bar on the intercooler to give you a better visual.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Wow

Innovative.

 

We've been throwing around the idea of incorporating provisions for one of these systems into an aftermarket carbon fiber intercooler cover that's almost to market. The cover does not in any way resemble stock, and it would be able to accept a mister bar or sprayer.

Thoughts?

-Dan