Is co2 only for the cooper s? or can you use it on the cooper also?


thanks

 

Isn't CO2 is carbon dioxide?
Perhaps you meant N2O?

 

I know no2 can be installed on the standered cooper but i've heard of a Co2 kit and no nothing about it.

 

CO2 is available for both MC and MCS


-West Coast Coopers

 

>>CO2 is available for both MC and MCS
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>>-West Coast Coopers

What is the name of the kit?

 

You can do co2 on the Standard cooper but the gains will not really be there, as you are not causing extra heat by compressing the air. You could use the DEI cryo fuel bad or the intake chiller.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

I've always thought the CO2 system for the S is interesting, but for all of the threads I've read I have never seen any dyno sheets to show how much power it makes. Does anyone know how much power a CO2 system makes on a cooper S?

 

If you guys are really interested, you might want to contact George at Madness:

http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...amp;ProdID=129

 

How would i install the co2 kit on the Cooper? and Is there any risk of messing up the engine?

 

I've always called that CryO2 so got confused when you said CO2.
My friend, Bisch has it on his S.
I can't see a practical installation for the Cooper. If you get it anywhere near the air intake it starves the engine.

 

There is no harm really for the cooper, but the main problem is the fact that there is no where to dump the CO2. The cooper S, the last spot for the CO2 is the intercooler. On the Cooper, there is no place to release it, That is the main idea of the CO2 system, to release the co2 on the intercooler. I am in the process of designing a system for the Cooper S with a nice large spray system, but for the cooler, you would need to spray it some where.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

Here's my install...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mp;topic=12920

 

The C02 for the MC contracts the airflow into the throttle
FREEZING air shrinks allowing more air to flow into the throttle faster...
I do not know if the gains are significant enough for application.
I know the CryoElement installs into the intake pipe.

I believe I read something about it on another Mini website.

- WCC

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West Coast Coopers

 

How much performance would i gain?

 

>>The C02 for the MC contracts the airflow into the throttle
>>FREEZING air shrinks allowing more air to flow into the throttle faster...
>>I do not know if the gains are significant enough for application.
>>I know the CryoElement installs into the intake pipe.
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>>I believe I read something about it on another Mini website.
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>>We at WCC may also be doing a group buy on CryO2 Products if anyone is interested.
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>>- WCC

I understand, but the CO2 need to be released somewhere. The system can not just have the Intake Piece. The idea for the system is that by uncomplressing the CO2, you are causing it to expand, and in that case absorb heat (get colder) If you just hooked up the intake piece, you would not be uncompressing the CO@ unless you let it out somewhere. I don't think that you would just want to let it out to no where. If it got sucked into the intake, you would loose performance. That is why the system ends with the Spray bar always.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

anyone have any ideas on where to shoot co2 into??

 

You could send it up and out the cowls...

It would look like a NO@ Purge, and scare your friends... Not the most practical, as you waste some of the CO2, but there is no other use for it on an MC.

I believe that the Cryo Kit comes with a vent tube to allow you to port is somewhere.

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

 

How much would that cost??

also did you get my email from nick@teammini.net?

thanks

 

A CryO2 Air Intake consists of an aerodynamically design bulb with a cryogenic chamber which is mounted in a 4” segment of air tube. As the air passes over the bulb heat is removed from the air charge resulting in a colder, denser more powerful charge. Dyno testing showed a reduction in intake air temperature of more than 35%. The CryO2 Air Intake can be used on tubocharged, supercharged or naturally aspirated applications. Multiple units can be used for colder results. Installs in minutes and comes with silicone connection sleeve, hose clamps and connection/vent hose.



The foundation to every CryO²™ System. Must have this kit to utilize CryO²™ components. The kit includes a 5 pound Co² tank, cryogenic solenoid valve, all necessary fittings, 14 ft. stainless steel hose, full wide open switch, arming switch, and wiring kit. Only one kit is needed to operate all the CryO²™ components.

 

>>A CryO2 Air Intake consists of an aerodynamically design bulb with a cryogenic chamber which is mounted in a 4” segment of air tube. As the air passes over the bulb heat is removed from the air charge resulting in a colder, denser more powerful charge. Dyno testing showed a reduction in intake air temperature of more than 35%. The CryO2 Air Intake can be used on tubocharged, supercharged or naturally aspirated applications. Multiple units can be used for colder results. Installs in minutes and comes with silicone connection sleeve, hose clamps and connection/vent hose.
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>>:smile:

 

Not sure of the cost. I do know that the C02 system I am workin on the the MCS will be about 370 ish and will include a 10 lb bottle, Spray Bar specifically designed for the mini, Solenoid, wiring and instructions. I should get the first prototype this week.

Got the e-mail, and just sent a responce...

Thanks
Dan
Pilo Racing

>>How much would that cost??
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>>also did you get my email from nick@teammini.net?
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>>thanks

 

Does this system have dyno proven hps???

 

Hello?? Did anyone read my post?
I did the first CryO2 set-up in a MINI. I worked with DEI to fit a system to the MCS. This was all done back in the beginning of July. I set up as a dealer for DEI, but there was very little interest for the system. Why the frenzy now?
And who is this WCC person? Are you a vendor?
Dan, if you want to talk about the system, PM me.

 

>>Hello?? Did anyone read my post?
>>I did the first CryO2 set-up in a MINI. I worked with DEI to fit a system to the MCS. This was all done back in the beginning of July. I set up as a dealer for DEI, but there was very little interest for the system. Why the frenzy now?
>>And who is this WCC person? Are you a vendor?
>>Dan, if you want to talk about the system, PM me.

Bisch,

I was reading your posts when you first installed this on your car. It certainly looked cool with the CO2 coming out of the front of your hood scoop. The question I have always had is does it produce power. I have not seen any real dyno #'s. Have you dyno tested yours? Has anybody else?

Thanks,

 

Does it produce power? Yes.
Did it produce power on the dyno? No.
Reason: When I did my dyno runs, the hood was open slightly for the tach wire. This allowed CO2 to enter the intake, thus choking the motor. I have the Madness intake which does not seal the engine bay from the intake. This area must be sealed too. While on the dyno, there is not sufficient air flow to vaccum out the gas from the engine bay, as there would be traveling down the road. Also, while sitting at a stand-still (on the dyno) Co2 gas rolls over the front grill area and into the intake snorkle tube. I was doing the best I could with the two high velocity fans at the dyno, but still could not keep the Co2 out of the intake. After 6-7 runs, I was out of Co2 (forgot to bring a spare tank). The nearest dyno is over an hour away and $150.00 per hour...so I'll wait for my nitrous and other goodies. :smile: