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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Forge intercooler diverted add on

I'm swapping my stock intercooler with a forge unit and need a diverter/ sprayer, any ideas?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Why don't you weld one on like this: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...6-post125.html.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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That's a great looking piece I just don't think my fabrication skills are on quite that level.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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^^ This is a good idea. It does have a couple of issues but a very good mod. If you live in a cooler climate, NE, then I'd leave it alone - I've had a Forge onmy car for 4+ years, no real bad heat soak but for heavy traffic in Boston - as long as you can maintain 24+ mph you're good to go.......
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Better yet, go back to stock and get an Alta or DDM diverter. Proven to work better than aftermarket IC's.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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A stock 88k miles ic with an alt a diverter will woke better than a new forge and a new scoop?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Yes

lots of data has been put together supporting this very conclusion. Stock IC has the best recovery and lowest pressure drop.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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I got my Alta without a diverter and just used thick Weatherstripping
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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Lots of data post #7 pages & pages....

Here in the NE - the Forge will outperform the OE. There is less loss of boost & the TE is quite good for an IC of this size. The GRS & Forge have an inner core design that is more faverable for boost. It is not a simple formula that can be applied to loss of boost - thermal efficiency.
There are 2 long threads on this subject, however I can't seem to find the first of them ( 3 - 4 years ago???). I tested an OE, Alta classic & Forge - put them on a Superflow, bassed on the result the Forge was best.
Arguments have been made about mass - if you have a 3# brick of aluminum or a 6# .10" sheet of aluminum, which mass will cool fastrer???? Surface with a pourpose is the name of the game when it relates to an IC.

That said: The best bang for the buck was an Alta diverter for the OE IC - with ice I would make on a cookie sheet - it would fit perfectly in the Alta diverter & I could re-load from a cooler with 5+ pieces of ice - better yet was a trip to the local S&S to get a cooler full of dry ice.........
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
^^ This is a good idea. It does have a couple of issues but a very good mod. If you live in a cooler climate, NE, then I'd leave it alone - I've had a Forge onmy car for 4+ years, no real bad heat soak but for heavy traffic in Boston - as long as you can maintain 24+ mph you're good to go.......
He's right. And if you want to eliminate heat soak faster, you would be better off with a more aggressive scoop to increase air flow.

I changed to a GP IC, and while running the M7 Extreme Scoop, temps run for 10-12 deg above outdoor temps, and recovery is pretty fast once back on the highway.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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I agree on the scoop. I have the M7 Extreme Scoop as well. After all my research, the only intercooler upgrade I have considered is the GP model. Since I have the IC off my old '02 MCS as a spare, I'm going to send it off to http://www.cradin.com/ to get a thermal coating for $75. Maybe at some point in the future, I will get a shroud welded to it as well.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Be careful with the coatings as they can reduce the airflow thru the IC which is much more important than heat dispersion.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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I'm leaning tword the forge but now I need somebody to build me sumthingnwith sprayer heads and a diverter on it
 
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