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Old 05-21-2010, 12:10 PM
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Which 17% pulley to order?

I'm going to order 17% ALTA pulley. I noticed they not available on their website animore. What are the other options?
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I'm going to order 17% ALTA pulley. I noticed they not available on their website animore. What are the other options?
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You can do a 15% Supercharger pulley AND a 2% Underdrive lightweight Crank pulley. Essentially getting you a 17% Pulley with the added throttle response from the lightweight pulley! Dont forget if you purchase the pulley from us you can get the pulley rental for free!
 
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I have the Craven one...but WMW (WayMotorWorks.com) has a great package for the $$ (all pulleys are basicly the same...but the altav2 which many folks don't care for...most prefer the classic, which is like the others...the differance is the method of securing the pulley to the SC shaft). and It has a pulley, DT tensioner Stop, cooler plugs, and a belt for one low price...so you save $$ on shipping...he also has loaner pulley pullers too!!
 
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Our "Local MINI Guru" recommends/prefers the Helix/Craven design.

That said, my impression is that it's pretty much six of one/half-dozen of another when it comes to pulleys, and I'm sure Way's pulley package would be just fine. I can't say about Alta.
 
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Lightened crank pulleys are not the answer. You risk disturbing the engine harmonics and toasting your crank and rod bearings. However, I do not disagree with the 15/2 combination.
 
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You can't go wrong with Way's Pulley Package deal, he also has a loaner pulley puller when you purchase the pulley from him.
 
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How long would it take to install the pulley?
 
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It only took me about 2 hours but I did some other things while the motor was jacked up for pulley access and took pics along the way......really depends on what your level of DIY skills is If pulley/belt only it could be done in under an hour....
 
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Go with the WMW pulley package. The great customer service is a plus.
 
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wait so alta doesnt have a 17% anymore?
 
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Originally Posted by JumpingJackFlash
Lightened crank pulleys are not the answer. You risk disturbing the engine harmonics and toasting your crank and rod bearings.
What he said
 
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We obviously recommend our 17% Pulley
http://www.waymotorworks.com/17-supe...ulley-wmw.html

It's all stainless design will last forever and they always fit perfect.
 
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Thanks a lot everyone.
I think I'll go with the WMW kit.

What else should I do at the same time?
My Mini is 55K, Auto.
 
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Just be sure to have a tourque wrench when you do the instll....it is very important to tuurqe the bolts on both the pulley, and the spark-plugs correctly...Wally-world/harbour freight has ones that are good enough to do the job cheap.
You are going to love having a pulley. Check your air-filter at the very least....it might be a good time for a CAI...most will let you hear the SC a bit more.
 
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and the ONLY!!!!! overdrive crank pulley you should EVER even think about getting is the ati pulley that Way had custom made from ATI. its a drag pulley that is high quality, light weight, and still dampens unlike the other after market solid aluminum POSs. (no offence you other guys.. but your just begging to have a crank shaft bearing go out WAAAYY prematurely)
 
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pulleys

STICK & STAY~~~~~~~~~~~W/ WAY~period OBEY
 
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Originally Posted by ALTA_Jarid
You can do a 15% Supercharger pulley AND a 2% Underdrive lightweight Crank pulley. Essentially getting you a 17% Pulley with the added throttle response from the lightweight pulley! Dont forget if you purchase the pulley from us you can get the pulley rental for free!
you fail, a +2% on the crank is not the same as adding another -2% on the charger as the crank is much bigger than the charger pulley its more akin to -4-6% on the charger which would be around a -20% overall

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id recommend the KAVs KMT ive fitted a few and they are top notch and half the price of others
 
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hey everyone.. im new here, i just purchased a 2004 mini cooper s. i want to get around 300 hp out of it.. also i want it very dependable.. what steps do i need to take.. thanks
 
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Originally Posted by selimsaim
hey everyone.. im new here, i just purchased a 2004 mini cooper s. i want to get around 300 hp out of it.. also i want it very dependable.. what steps do i need to take.. thanks
pick up phone call hubie (ABF / Mega mini) & Mynes, job done, two of my mates have mega mini turbos and run 330 whp and 310 whp on pump gas on the stock ECU thanks to the mynes tune, there both on minitorque.com
 
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Originally Posted by selimsaim
hey everyone.. im new here, i just purchased a 2004 mini cooper s. i want to get around 300 hp out of it.. also i want it very dependable.. what steps do i need to take.. thanks
^ What james said but I hope you got a big fat cheque book
 
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^what D-man said or a wheelbarrow full of cash. Tom Walkinshaw was once told "nothing beats cubic inches", Walkinshaw replied "nothing beats cubic dollars"
 
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haha.. thanks guys.. ya im not made of money thats for sure.. im thinking i could do most the work myself.. just didnt know where i needed to start. like how much boost a cooper s motor can handle.. should i run a turbo instead.. what kinds of things should i look into.. do i need to change the heads pistons.. stuff like that.. im not looking to do everything over night. just buy stuff here and there.. my goal would be 300hp when im done..
 
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Originally Posted by selimsaim
hey everyone.. im new here, i just purchased a 2004 mini cooper s. i want to get around 300 hp out of it.. also i want it very dependable.. what steps do i need to take.. thanks
While it is possible to make that kind of power...in a car this small 210 make many folks happy...and 240 is doable, while keeping it dependable.. It does not sound like a ton, but in a car like a mini it is more than it can really put down....there are a ton of threads on ultimate max hp mini's...twin charging might work for a weekend car you tinker with, but for a daily driver, I would do the basic stuff, and a good head, good tune, and water/meth injection...unless you have 15k buring a hole in your pocket!!
 
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Originally Posted by james f
you fail, a +2% on the crank is not the same as adding another -2% on the charger as the crank is much bigger than the charger pulley its more akin to -4-6% on the charger which would be around a -20% overall

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id recommend the KAVs KMT ive fitted a few and they are top notch and half the price of others
When you add the extra drag from over speeding your alternator (unless you get a smaller pulley for that to) and the losses from running you ac pump faster, the costs get pretty high....
But if you have a 15%, and need a new crank damper, it is a cost effective way to get some more hp...it is eassier on the belt than a 17%, so it is not all bad, but a smaller crank pulley (dampened only please, even Jan from RMW is in agreement from his posts) is no majic bullet. Way's dampened crank reduction pulley is a great product...for the right person, but like with any upgrade it's pro's and con's should we weighed carefully.
And for the record, when I have seen the math done on other websites, the 15+2= about 17 is pretty close...especially since a 2% overdrive is closser to 1.5 or was it 1.8...or so...so it actally works perfect....WayMotorWorks knows their stuff... They make a sell awsome stuff...some places that discuss mini performance on the web are highly technical, some are more about discussions and advise...
 


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