Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Completely

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:15 PM
  #1  
Mini Tyler's Avatar
Mini Tyler
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
Completely seal the CAI

So I took a look at my ALTA CAI with box top and I do see that there are some small gaps in a few spaces that would be letting in some hot engine air in, and have the intake drawing air from places it shouldn't. What type of material that will resist engine temps should I use to seal this box up completely?

Before you respond, I do understand that the box will heat up because of engine temps; I am concerned with sealing it so the only air being sucked in is fresh air coming from the cowl.
 

Last edited by Mini Tyler; Mar 31, 2010 at 03:34 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:41 PM
  #2  
Fatherdeth's Avatar
Fatherdeth
6th Gear
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,707
Likes: 2
From: Navarre, FL
Silicone
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:58 PM
  #3  
Mini Tyler's Avatar
Mini Tyler
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
is there a foam in a can like spray that i can use to get to those hard to reach spaces?
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:21 PM
  #4  
Longboard Mini's Avatar
Longboard Mini
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 1
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
I wouldn't worry. Either way your HP is going to be the same. That little bit isn't going to do a thing either way.

LB
 

Last edited by Longboard Mini; Mar 31, 2010 at 09:59 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:34 PM
  #5  
Motor On's Avatar
Motor On
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,848
Likes: 15
Here's a thorough thread on improving the CAI insulation.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-findings.html

Too little, heat soak sets in quick but it clears out quickly once moving
Too much, heat soak takes longer to set in but lingers extensively.
Right amount delays heat soak and cools as rapidly as one with little insulation.

When moving over 40ish MPH you're relatively unaffected, which is why HAIs do almost equally as well with a fraction of the cost.

But it's always possible to build a better mouse trap.
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:42 PM
  #6  
fishead # 1's Avatar
fishead # 1
3rd Gear
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: oregon(where else?)
Foam & insulation

There are a Zillion different "foams" out there and temps are of little consequence. The lesser expanding foams ARE the way to go IF you need to use one ; they ARE VERY messy and even worse to "work" with (all foams) .If you do use the foam let it set up 24 hrs min THEN trim or remove any excess of which there'll be for sure. After it "sets --very simple trim & cleanup. The silicone IS better (heat rated) if its just small cracks to fill--good stuff--same idea on the set/ trim etc.CLEAN ALL FIRST (alcohol))If your try to SEAL --like top to box especially; the lesser expensive plumbers pipe insulation (split rubber) IS the ticket. Super easy to work with--pre cut all; mitre the corners , dry fit /test fit /ALL the pieces then after your good to go remove the adhesive tape ( if you want permanent) and VOILA !! FINI That insulation WILL form to "irregularities / clearences "etc as its really "malleable" & heat is no problem (it WILL BURN) A "perfect job is most likely gonna combine at least 2 of the aforementioned=== PERFECTION
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:02 PM
  #7  
Longboard Mini's Avatar
Longboard Mini
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 1
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
Originally Posted by fishead # 1
There are a Zillion different "foams" out there and temps are of little consequence. The lesser expanding foams ARE the way to go IF you need to use one ; they ARE VERY messy and even worse to "work" with (all foams) .If you do use the foam let it set up 24 hrs min THEN trim or remove any excess of which there'll be for sure. After it "sets --very simple trim & cleanup. The silicone IS better (heat rated) if its just small cracks to fill--good stuff--same idea on the set/ trim etc.CLEAN ALL FIRST (alcohol))If your try to SEAL --like top to box especially; the lesser expensive plumbers pipe insulation (split rubber) IS the ticket. Super easy to work with--pre cut all; mitre the corners , dry fit /test fit /ALL the pieces then after your good to go remove the adhesive tape ( if you want permanent) and VOILA !! FINI That insulation WILL form to "irregularities / clearences "etc as its really "malleable" & heat is no problem (it WILL BURN) A "perfect job is most likely gonna combine at least 2 of the aforementioned=== PERFECTION
Wow
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 11:41 PM
  #8  
fishead # 1's Avatar
fishead # 1
3rd Gear
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: oregon(where else?)
longboard

Other then giving Tyler EXACTLY what HE asked for is there some problem I'm unaware of ?? Personally I think you've got a h*** of a nice ride & I don't think it got that way by doin ANYTHING half A**------if I'm wrong -straighten me out . I HAD really wanted to ask how the rotrex thing was hapnin --------$$ don't buy happiness though I've got enough of both to discuss it a bit if you'd care to.
 
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 09:02 AM
  #9  
Mini Tyler's Avatar
Mini Tyler
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
Thanks for all the responses. my whole thought is thinking of the intake as a vacuum....if there are multiple holes along the pipe inlet, the suction at the primary inlet (and what should be the only inlet) it wouldn't be as powerful as it could (at least thats what my brain tells me). I will try some silicone and some rubber trim and see if I can squeeze my giant hands down into those small spaces.
 
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 09:12 AM
  #10  
ALTA_Jarid's Avatar
ALTA_Jarid
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
From: Hillsboro Oregon
Hey Tyler,
PM me a picture of your intake setup if you can. I might have a seal for the top of your box- to boxtop!
 
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 09:49 AM
  #11  
fishead # 1's Avatar
fishead # 1
3rd Gear
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: oregon(where else?)
XZAKLEE

Ty : You've definitely got the brain workin correct-------do it YOUR way-------it's THE RIGHT way !!
 
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 10:07 AM
  #12  
Mini Tyler's Avatar
Mini Tyler
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
Thanks Jarid, I'll PM pictures to you when I get home from work

Thanks Fishead
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
carid
Interior/Exterior
16
Dec 28, 2025 04:11 AM
Mini Mania
Interior/Exterior Products
1
Oct 19, 2015 08:07 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
Sep 10, 2015 10:52 AM
bbak11010
MINI Parts for Sale
0
Sep 7, 2015 08:08 PM
bbak11010
MINI Parts for Sale
0
Sep 7, 2015 08:03 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:46 AM.